Skip to comments.DirecTV Wants Fox To Stop Running Ads About Potential Station Drops
Posted on 10/30/2011 3:00:13 AM PDT by Las Vegas Dave
DirecTV has sent a letter to the Federal Communications Commission complaining about Fox advertising related to their cable programming dispute.
In the missive to Media Bureau chief Bill Lake, the top satellite operator said that Fox is using misleading advertising informing DirecTV customers that " 'soon, in some markets, you may lose your local Fox station,' even though our retransmission-consent agreement does not expire for over two months."
The parties are currently engaged in a battle over the programmer seeking an increase in license fees for FX, National Geographic Channel, Speed, Fuel TV, Fox Soccer, Fox Soccer Plus, Fox Movie Channel, Fox Deportes and the 19 Fox regional sports networks.
Fox Cable Networks' agreement with the DBS giant expires Nov. 1, but their retrans deal for Fox-owned stations does not expire until year-end, DirecTV pointed out in the missive to Lake.
The provider added that Fox has also "refused to provide us a separate offer for the continued carriage of its broadcast stations."
DirecTV says it has asked Fox to stop running the ads, but that the programmer has not done so.
Fox was unavailable for comment at press time.
The FCC is currently considering clarifying the definition of good faith retrans negotiations. DirecTV told Lake that is purposely trying to confuse and alarm consumers, and suggests that would not be in the definition of good faith bargaining.
"Such conduct is certainly not what the Commission had in mind when it made Fox a steward of the nation's airwaves entrusted to serve the public interest," said DirecTV executive vice president of content strategy and development Derek Chang in the letter, which was dated Oct. 27.
DIRECTV to FCC: Fox Is Misleading! Washington, D.C. (October 28, 2011) -- DIRECTV has taken its programming dispute with Fox to the Federal Communications Commission, filing a complaint saying that Fox is "misleading" their subscribers into believing they will lose their local Fox channels.
DIRECTV says Fox is asking for a 40 percent increase to carry roughly two dozen Fox channels including FX, Fox Movie Channel and 19 regional sports networks -- but not the local Fox channels or Fox News; they are covered in a different agreement.
Fox denies the 40 percent rate increase, but the two companies acknowledge that unless a deal is agreed to by November 1, it's highly likely the two dozen Fox channels will be removed from DIRECTV's airwaves.
However, the fee fight has gotten heated in the past few days after Fox began running commercials suggesting that DIRECTV could soon lose the local Fox channels as well as the cable networks.
FOX is using misleading advertising informing DIRECTV customers that soon, in some markets, you may lose your local FOX station, even though our retransmission consent agreement (For the local channels) does not expire for over two months, said the DIRECTV letter, which was written by DIRECTV executive vice president Derek Chang.
Chang added that Fox has refused to give DIRECTV a separate proposal to renew the carriage agreement for the local channels.
"Fox is clearly abusing the public trust by its deliberate attempt to confuse and alarm consumers. Such conduct is certainly not what the Commission had in mind when it made Fox a steward of the nations airwaves entrusted to serve the public interest," Chang wrote.
DIRECTV apparently wants the FCC to order Fox to stop running the ads, particularly in reference to the local channel language; the letter stops short of actually requesting that action. However, the fact that DIRECTV has sent the letter just four days before the Nov. 1 deadline might suggest the satcaster doesn't think this dispute will end soon.
There was no response last night from Fox or the FCC on DIRECTV's letter.
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At my age, two months = “soon”.
I am tired of being nickel and dimed to death as the last fallback on societies ills. My DirectV bill is $142 now (risen incrementally from the $99 package I got years ago. All the premium extra channels are just reruns of bad movies, putrid crap like Bill Maher, Babs, Gore, hagged out liberal starts, and that shithead Michael Moore.
I'll just go with local cable, network and phone bundle and Netflix plus the new BRDs that I really want to see.
[Come to think of it, there's a lot of other needless crap I pay for each month. When I retire in December I'm gonna slim those bills: ADT (won't need it), TRUGREE/CHEMLAWN, my extra iPhone account, cut the mileage on my car/truck for insurance (35K/year), caller ID/home wiring service/etc....probably a bunch of other stuff too.] I'm done doing my part to keep the economy up for a nation half full of leech losers.
Fox denies the 40 percent rate increase...
So, either somebody is outright lying OR something Clintonian is going on, like maybe Fox is asking for 'only' a 39.995% increase...
I’m with Beck on this one. He left and I will be doing so soon as well. I purchased the Roku device and like it well enough to find other sources to receive the programming I choose to watch. I am tired of scrolling down the long list of crap TV in the hopes of finding anything useful.
As I am involved with racing in a big way, I really want to retain Speed but will give it up. I’ll need to find subscriptions for the stuff I want to watch including SEC and college football on ESPN.
One set of parasites complaining about another.
What is the Roku device?
well this is good to know- there’s a ticker running across the bottom of SpeedTV right now and i was afraid i was going to miss the college football games on Fox next Saturday never mind the last two F1 races of the year...
I virtually stopped watching F1 when it became the pole car wins the race show. Some neat stuff to see but actual racing was hard to find unless one liked the follow the leader deal.
I can’t stand DirectTV, but Fox seems like the sleazier party in this dispute.
Has DIRECT-TV complained to the FCC about similar ads that have been run by local NBC and ABC affiliates? I bet the answer to that is a resounding NO.
How much can you watch on Roku? It looks interesting, but I wasn’t clear that you could get much beyond GBTV.
Can you stream straight from the internet on it and watch anything you can now watch on your computer? Or do you pay a monthly fee in addition?
“Has DIRECT-TV complained to the FCC about similar ads that have been run by local NBC and ABC affiliates?”
I got it just to watch Beck but there are over 100 channels with most of them free that can be added to the lineup. Not really sold on it for a broad based solution but it offers more than the WD TV Live thingy.
I actually bought the WD TV to playback the in-car videos for some of the racing teams I do data work for so they didn’t hog up my computer keeping me away from doing the data analysis. I can connect it to the TV and surf the net with wireless keyboards and such, which I am still trying to find out of it can be done with Roku.
I am still looking for a better solution but like when DTV first came out, it had its growing pains as well. I think the move is on the specific subscription services on-line rather than the one size fits all solution DTV is mire in.
they added a moveable back wing and there’s been record numbers of passes this season...
We dropped DirecTV last June. We now have a Roku II, Netflix and GBTV (month-to-month). We went from $70/month with no premiums (dropped those years ago) to around $25/month. We keep the 1 DVD at a time just because not everything we like is streamed. Roku carries podcasts/vodcasts and other excerpts from many network news channels and keeps adding various channels every month.
We don’t miss it. I don’t even go to the FNC website very often. Between Drudge and FR and a few right wing blog sites, we get all the news and information we can handle. I used to have FNC or Fox Business on all the time in the background.
The legend of Jim Hall’s Chapparell lives on! I know it is not anything close technically but you know what I am talking about. Maybe next year. I am up to my ears with a new car to get ready for the off season testing to get ready for the 50th Rolex 24.
I’m thinking about dropping DirectTV again. I have an XM receiver in the house, so I can listen to FNC if I want. Not a bad way to do it, and cheap.
Headed that way. Just have to wean the Mrs off the junk she watches while staying at home.
Currently the local ABC affiliate is running the ad and a scroll across the top of the screen. A couple of months ago it was the NBC affiliate doing the same. I haven’t noticed if the Fox one is doing it, but I’ll give it a glance later.
I don’t have dish, direct or cable, so it matters not to me :^)
You use a Netflix or other streaming subscription for movie or TV content. Roku has, for example, last night’s NBC News in full w/o commercials available the next day as well as Fox News Sunday (which may be live, I can’t recall). The rest of the news content from all the networks is excerpts, podcasts or vodcasts. There are a series of 2 minute cooking tips on CHOW. My husband watches SAIL TV. There are well over 100 separate channels, including music. We use Pandora for music.
All of those are free. There are other free and subscription channels available, check it out at roku.com.
We were early adapters with a Roku. The first one had buffering problems with our DSL and it kept losing the connection to the Internet and would need to be rebooted. It seemed to stress our modem. You can go either ethernet or wireless. We upgraded to a Roku II and have had few problems. GBTV has given me some problems in transmission, but the reload function is quick and picks up where you were cut off. It may be a GBTV problem, I don’t know. With DSL, you cannot download/upload to the Internet via computer while watching a movie, but we have been able to read an already downloaded website while a movie is playing. Roku II also has a usb function for game players.
Thanks, I appreciate the info.
An ordinary old computer works just fine for the task.
I live in the country and we suffer from very slow speeds, even with my microwave hookup. Dial up is useless now days with all the graphics on everyones home pages.
Cute picture but it was an advertising stunt.
And it’s in an ad to support FR. :-)
Take the plunge and go satellite.
which I do .... :)
I buy Internet-only service from my cable provider. On a whim, I hooked up a TV to the coax. And there appeared basic cable, for free. (and worth every penny, I might ad.)
And the new digital TV even picks up some of the pay movie broadcasts.
Many devices now stream like a Roku. I steam via my Blu-ray players (one is wired to my router; the other is connected wirelessly). Also, many TVs can stream as well.
Fox did this to Dish Network last year. I think I lost two episodes of Breaking Bad before they reached an agreement.
Direct TV has been running ads, even has a channel devoted to, complaining about FOX. This seems to be a case of the pot calling the kettle black to me.
After we built our new home, I again signed up with them after multiple letters of (please, please please come home).
The programming absolutely sux for the $$. I'm paying close to $70 bucks a month, like 90 million stations and probably ten are marginally worth watching with a few favorites.
I really wish some provider would come up with an a la carte plan. Heck, I'd be flipping over backwards to pay $70 a month if I could pick my channels and do away with the bull crap channels.
I’ll have to check that at when I’m over at a friend’s this afternoon who has direct.
I’ve had dir tv since they started HD, maybe 7-8 years. We have everything, NHL/center ice, NFL/super fan, bunch of local back east sports show channels, ect and our bill is around 250 in the winter little over 100 come summer. You got to understand, we live out in the sticks, it’s our only bill and won’t part with it come winter when it’s minus 60; still often there’s nothing on. Funny thing is come summer, we never watch any tv. Wish I could get Beck for some extra money on dir tv or junior hockey games from Canada.
...advertising informing DirecTV customers that " 'soon, in some markets, you may lose your local Fox station,' even though our retransmission-consent agreement does not expire for over two months."So, what does a corporate officer with a fiduciary responsibility do? He lets everyone in the world know beforehand that he's screwing up the deal. Good move.
About a year ago we dropped DirecTV because they refused to address an equipment problem. (DVR Box constantly glitched not recording programs or when it did they would not playback.) They sent me two replacement boxes (refurbs) and they would have the same issues with even more problems (box would just shut off or freeze up).
I asked that my bill be reduced for the two months I had issues and until they addressed the problem. They said they couldn't do that so we dropped them for Time Warner.
When I talked with Time Warner I told them what package I had with DirecTV and wanted something the same with them. I got almost the same package for cheaper (though it would be 1080I instead of 1080P) When they quoted me the price I asked them 4 times if the price was an introductory offer. Every time they answered no this was the everyday price.
A few weeks ago we got a bill increase of 600 Bucks a year. When we asked why the girl told us our introductory offer was up. Well that did it. I've a friend who is converting old Sat dishes into HD antennas. He has about got mine ready (we are getting two) That will get us local channels and NFL football. We will use the Internet for anything else. We are done with paying out the nose for programming we don't watch.
We prefer to be able to watch on our TV. The picture is better, it is less strain on the eyes and it is just more relaxing.
If you mean that the computer can be hooked directly to the TV w/o the intervening streaming device, we looked into that. We aren’t techies and it seemed to need the computer still hooked up to both the TV and the modem via a cable, so instead of a dedicated computer, we opted for the $100 Roku.
Also, w/Roku we have access to a lot of different channels without downloading all sorts of plug-ins. I had attempted various sites using plug-ins and many of them would not play on my browsers.
Roku is great for us geezers, IMO. Very simple plug and play and less clutter. Roku II has been just about glitch free. In fact, last night we seemed to have no trouble with one of us online and the other watching TV. It may just have been that fewer folks in our area were using bandwidth, but it was quite nice.
We have friends who stream Netflix via their Wii.
We would go the streaming TV route, but a new set costs a lot more than the Roku or other streaming devices.
But, the bottom line is that the sat TV has a lot of competition. There is so little worth the price on sat TV, that we decided we didn’t need the subscription. We had really become TV addicts, especially in the winter and were surprised that we really don’t feel any withdrawals. Except for GBTV, it is all commercial-free, too. That and no more “FOX NEWS ALERT” have been wonderful for our peace of mind.
I'd miss TCM though.
Most of the classic films are on DVD or available streaming, from what I can tell.
I like some of the same channels your wife does, but I found they were getting so superficial, that I began searching out things I wanted to learn or do online. One site I found is called SmartFlix, where you can rent series of DIY tutorials. IIRC, you keep them as long as you need to. Not cheap, but it is a way to have intense How-To information right there to study and take notes from. I also found that a lot of the episodes on the DIY show are at You Tube.
Once upon a time, long ago, I was addicted to the women’s magazines. Then I noticed that they simply would recycle/rewrite the same or similar articles every few months or every season. Thinking back, I was attracted by the beautifully styled photos of whatever: a room. a dish, a cake, a garden. It was more of a fantasy experience than really doing something. It got boring and I became busier, so I stopped my subscriptions and now, I sort of smile when I see them at the checkout and they aren’t any different than they were 30 years ago, except the styles are modern. I think those how-to TV shows are similar.
Anyway, for now, everyone will do what makes them most comfortable. I didn’t pressure my husband nor did he pressure me. We just became aware how often we said “Seen it” or “There is nothing on”. At that point, we wondered why we were subscribing. The streaming option just means we have an alternative to the subscription.
I mentioned to Mrs. LVD, that possible we can reduce our DISH package and save a few $$.
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