Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Commemorative Steve Jobs Android Tablet Is Sure To Catch The Attention of Apple!
GizChina ^ | NOVEMBER 12, 2011 10:01 AM

Posted on 11/13/2011 5:25:57 PM PST by Swordmaker

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-65 next last
To: dayglored
Find the best price on what you want, not the lowest price for something that isn't what you want.

That's a good philosophy for any major purchase: Washing machine, car, house....

41 posted on 11/13/2011 10:16:46 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Cain = National Sales Tax; Perry = Amnesty for Illegals; Romney = Obamacare forever. Who's left?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

To: dayglored

Heh, yes, you are right... Only been in computers since the 60’s (when they were called computers in the military). No offense meant...


42 posted on 11/13/2011 10:17:44 PM PST by Deagle
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies]

To: dayglored

ShiftRegLeft to ya....


43 posted on 11/13/2011 10:18:03 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Cain = National Sales Tax; Perry = Amnesty for Illegals; Romney = Obamacare forever. Who's left?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies]

To: dayglored

By the way - you past sounds very much like mine... Same experience with processor chips, languages, and such...

The only difference that I can point to immediately is that with Datapoint, I use Databus for my initial programming in addition to assembly...

Sounds like we grew up in the same environment...heh.


44 posted on 11/13/2011 10:24:56 PM PST by Deagle
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies]

To: Deagle

For those interested in a bit of computer history:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datapoint


45 posted on 11/13/2011 10:31:56 PM PST by Deagle
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 44 | View Replies]

To: dayglored; Deagle
I'm 60, I've been programming for over 40 years, and I've been designing, building, and producing computers and computer products for over 35 years. My first CPU design was done in TTL, and was constructed before Intel's 8080 chip was available. I programmed in assembler for 8080, 6800, 6502, 6809, and 8086, before switching to C.

And I'm 62. I may be the only person on here who has made his own PNP transistor from scratch (well, from silicon wafer). I did that as part of a 1965 Bell Labs project where 100 selected High School students were the materials and instructions on how to make one by hand. Mine was one of the 43 successful transistors produced by the high school students around the country. I too, have built computers, programed, and branched over to database design. . . Then into business management. For the last 30 years I've run my own business supporting other businesses' computers, both in PCs and Macs.

One thing I can say: once I converted a business to Macs, I generally made far less money from that business fixing problems. They had no problems! The Macs just worked. No longer was I called in to clean up the malware messes or even the incompatibilities caused by update Tuesdays with vertical solution software breaking with MS software patches. I stopped making so much money from them, but they remained convinced clients and highly recommended me to friends. . . who I'd make money from fixing their PC infestation until I could convince them the cost of Windows PC ownership was just too great. . . and the cycle would repeat. Every convert would essentially say "I can't believe I put up with Windows so long! What took me so long?" or "I can't believe how easy this is!" or "using a computer is FUN again!"

46 posted on 11/13/2011 10:36:37 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies]

To: Deagle

For those that are a bit interested in computer history, I initially worked at Datapoint building and maintaining the 2200 computer. It’s motherboard was built on discrete components because when they asked Intel to put it on a chip, it was too slow...

Now of course, that eventually became the 8008 and eventually the 8080 computer chip...


47 posted on 11/13/2011 10:37:51 PM PST by Deagle
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 45 | View Replies]

To: Swordmaker

Ah, love it!! One of the original transistor pioneers! You have had a grand experience I’d say! Doesn’t get much better than that...


48 posted on 11/13/2011 10:40:05 PM PST by Deagle
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 46 | View Replies]

To: Deagle
> By the way - you past sounds very much like mine... Same experience with processor chips, languages, and such... ... Sounds like we grew up in the same environment...heh.

Indeed it does!! Greetings!

49 posted on 11/13/2011 10:51:16 PM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 44 | View Replies]

To: Deagle; Swordmaker
OMG, what a bunch of old farts we are!! :)

Time for bed, gentlemen, have at, and enjoy. I'll check back after work tomorrow....

Best FRegards to all.

50 posted on 11/13/2011 10:53:17 PM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 48 | View Replies]

To: dayglored

Yes, goodnight to you all and thanks for the ride through the past...heh. Yes, we are a bunch of old fudie dudies... however that is spelled...


51 posted on 11/13/2011 10:58:21 PM PST by Deagle
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 50 | View Replies]

To: Swordmaker
"Tonight, Pinky, I will change the world!"


52 posted on 11/13/2011 11:02:34 PM PST by Lancey Howard
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Deagle
Ah, love it!! One of the original transistor pioneers! You have had a grand experience I’d say! Doesn’t get much better than that...

It was fun. Spent hours after school in the electronics lab carefully doping and measuring the thickness of the chemicals. Then scraping it off and trying again to get the right amount. Then putting on another layer of another chemical, and getting that just right. The whole thing had to be heated in a mini-kiln I had to build and heated to a temperature I can't remember to save my neck. . . I used the little temperature cones they use to fire ceramics to precise temperatures. Too hot and the transistor would be ruined, too cool and it wouldn't be a transistor. Once it was fired, it had to be plated so leads could be soldered to each side. And one from the center... Fun to get the center contact to work.

Hardly a pioneer. . . Just fun and interesting. This was at the end of the time when kids were still concerned about how many transistors their radio had. NINE was the gold standard... Unless you had nine, you were nobody. IIRC, three and five were the other sizes of transistor radios. Integrated circuits were the realm of aerospace and military in 1965, electronics were just in transition from tube tech through transistor tech, a surprisingly short period, to IC, which started to appear in consumer electronics in the late 60s and early 70s.

I think the IC is what killed Heathkit. I still have my Heathkit VTVM I built in 1966... What fun is there in plugging in an IC into a prefab multilayer printed circuit board? WHEEEE—not.

Does anybody memorize the resistor color codes anymore?

So much for who's experience is bigger. LOL!

53 posted on 11/13/2011 11:19:16 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 48 | View Replies]

To: Swordmaker

No, Actually, you were a pioneer - just look back at history and you were part of it! That is something that should be remembered and passed down to your children. That is history!

Oh wow - speaking of resistor codes - I learned by the saying “bad boys rape our young girls but violet gives willingly”... Heh. If you don’t understand that, then you’ve forgotten the code...ha.

As to Heathkits, loved them and probably was partially responsible for keeping them in business. Made all of my test equipment from kits (VM, Freq Gen, Scopes, etc.) along with 4 tvs, H8 computer and all accessories, and other items that I’ve forgotten. They were a great company to me and at the time, could not understand how they could have gone out of business...

Not to mention the kits for etching your own circuit boards, plugin circuit boards (can’t even remember what they were called), etc...such is life...

Experience is always biggest for the individual telling their story...


54 posted on 11/13/2011 11:49:20 PM PST by Deagle
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 53 | View Replies]

To: Swordmaker

One thing that I forgot... I lived in Grand Rapids Mich. for a few years and use to drive to Benton Harbor to pick up Heathkits from their store. It was very nice and really fun to wonder around there with mouth watering...heh.


55 posted on 11/13/2011 11:56:28 PM PST by Deagle
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 53 | View Replies]

To: Deagle
I bought my first MacBook Pro last year - it IS a better machine in every respect.

I have built some twenty computers (windows) for myself and friends; I am now 62 years-old.

56 posted on 11/14/2011 6:46:11 AM PST by Loud Mime (The Enemy Within is the greatest enemy)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Swordmaker
"Does anybody memorize the resistor color codes anymore?"

"Bad boys..."

<GRIN...>

57 posted on 11/14/2011 7:00:55 AM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 53 | View Replies]

To: BenKenobi

but I don’t need two, just 1 each that has extremely little management needs.

Most often I find android or Win, while I personally have the skill sets needed, stink if you are not a power user or at the very least fairly competent.

Window’s ultraportables with the same specs COST WAY more than a baseline macbook air. (which even has ssd).


58 posted on 11/22/2011 11:14:07 AM PST by Individual Rights in NJ (Infidel Inside)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: the invisib1e hand

Oh- come on!

What is that supposed to mean?

Listen you’re not going to out “power-user” me.

I’m not some tech noob here.... name a system, piece of hardware, software etc... and we discuss usefulness over lifestyle till your blue in the face.

I have an Andriod phone for work. It stinks and isn’t as quick to do things on the go as the Iphone.

Macbook air- find me a comparable ultra portable pc with the same parts for anywhere near that price (including the SSD).

Iphone/Macbook air works way better faster for on-the go then you could ever manage with the current Android/Win7 hybrid (and boot times would take much longer too).... and Window phone... get back to me next year... it has the potential to be good by then maybe....

Not sure where you were going with your post...


59 posted on 11/22/2011 11:21:24 AM PST by Individual Rights in NJ (Infidel Inside)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: Individual Rights in NJ

I’m not sure where you’re shopping. I got this laptop at present with better specs than the air for around 300 bucks.


60 posted on 11/22/2011 11:23:18 AM PST by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 58 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-65 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson