Posted on 11/14/2011 1:50:04 PM PST by Patrick1
Newt's very smart. He knows it's coming and apparently feels he can take the heat. If he can't he'll simply have to pass the torch.
I think there's method to his anti-media campaigning. Anyone who's been on magazine covers as "The Gingrich Who Stole Christmas" and "Uncle Scrooge" knows how the media roll. I suspect he has some interesting arrows hidden in his quiver. One of them is his insistence on Lincoln-Douglas type debates with Zero with no media interference. I hope he can manage it.
> If you ain’t for Newt then you must be for Romney.
I’m for neither.
They are both members of the Republican Establishment.
Either will sell us out in a heartbeat.
Both have done that before, and will do it again.
Besides, neither of them can beat 0bama0, and I believe that’s the plan.
Why have you claimed to be the author of something you had nothing to do with?
Are you a scumsucking liar? Did you make a mistake about what you authored?
Have you authored so many polls that you just forgot that this one wasn't yours?
What's the story here?
So many do.
It was a total "win" marketing decision.
People (I mean in general, not FR) are acting like they’ve discovered a new and exciting politician. Newt has been around for years, as we all know. I can’t help but see the ‘90s being played out again when his political opponents were able to define him in a very, very negative way. It would be a huge mistake to have Newt as the GOP nominee.
I’d buy ya! =)
Newt is a disaster.
I don’t trust these PPP polls. But if Cain does get pulled down by all these lying presstitutes, Newt would be a lousy substitute.
We are long past the point where we can afford to vote for the least worst candidate.
Either Cain fends it off and continues to grow in stature, or it’s write-in time. And there’s only one candidate out there who could possibly bring it off. I think we all know who she is, although some Freepers would prefer it wasn’t so.
The Republican Party needs a reboot.
McCain II, but with more adultery and divorces.
Something like 40-50% of Americans hate him.
Yeah, that’s the guy.
I’d vote for him in November though.
Is it PA-LIN, PA-LIN, PA-LIN?
Cain doesn’t hate women. I don’t think anyone said that.
Romney hates dogs, well, that doesn’t matter.
Bachmann’s husband is a closeted homo.
Perry is remarkably stupid, and if he was the nominee he’s one bad minute away from giving the house and the senate to the Democrats.
Paul is seen as a fruitcake by many, who believe that we can continue to borrow money to pay for our military budget.
What about Buddy Roemer? Harvard Undergrad, Harvard MBA, 4 term Congressman, 1 term Governor, founded a bank. I don’t support him, but there’s nothing that clearly really sucks.
What really sucks about Santorum?
Remember, there was no reason at all for Newt to support Dede. Dede wasn’t an incumbent. Santorum was clearly pressured to stick with Specter. If the worst you can say about Santorum is Specter, Newt was worse with Dede.
Yes. Either a reboot, or a boot out the door. The GOP is on its deathbed, yet insiders like Rove and Boner haven't even noticed what's looming over them and the rest of us. Newt notices, but I'm afraid he really doesn't care, as long as he gets his.
Romney, even if he were the most solid true blue Conservative on the face of the Earth he would not stand a chance of winning for one simple reason — the reason nobody wants to talk about — he’s a Mormon.
Now, frankly speaking, I like Mormons. They are, for the most part, hardworking, patriotic folk who live good clean lives, but there is no getting around the fact that Mormon church history is filled with a lot of unpleasant skeletons. You can bet your last dollar that the MSM is already planning on airing every one of those skeletons, in the most lurid way possible, if he get nominated.
I firmly believe they WANT his nomination because they know that his LDS membership will be a deciding factor in the election. Evangelicals will shun him, Baptists will be uncomfortable, and the great secular unwashed will recoil in horror from some of the stranger tenets of the church.
The fact that the Mormons did not allow Blacks into the Priesthood until 1978 is going to be especially noteworthy considering that Romney's opponent is Obama.
If you think the anti-LDS bigotry is bad now, just wait. If Romney gets the nomination, it's going to be a thousand times worse. They're waiting for it.
Actually what the Republican Party needs is an enema.
Bachmann? She's the only "she" candidate.
What I think is that Republicans
1.HAVE TO get behind a legitimate candidate and do it QUICKLY
2. THAT candidate will either be CAIN, ROMNEY or GINGRICH.
3.The MSM has made it clear FOR TWO YEARS, through spin with varying degress of subtlety,that ROMNEY is their candidate.
4. The Left has ALSO made it clear that Romney is their candidate, for the seemingly contradictory reasons that
he’s the most “moderate” and also doesn’t offer enough of a
contrast to Obama to make much of a difference. This is a big gamble on their part, but you can see their reasoning.
5. NO ONE will win the nomination without the Tea Party vote, and so far Cain is the only one who’s captured that,
his “sexual scandals” notwithstanding.
6. Everyone must also recognize by now that the Left is trading on the “baggage” both Gingrich and Cain carry is
enough to render them “unelectable”. This fits perfectly into the ongoing objective of making Romney the nominee.
7. NOBODY seems to have learned the lessons of the last election , which was, regardless of defeats, a huge success for this vast new constituency known as the Tea Party.
Cain’s unprecedented showing so far is owing precisely to this constituency, even as it looks like his “baggage” has been engineered to make him drop in the polls.
8. A Romney victory in primaries will create as much chaos
(though strictly of a political sort) in the Body Politic
as Obama being elected to the Presidency.
9. I have NO substantial idea how Romney could win the primaries except through a careful courting of “Independents” and/or disgruntled Obama voters looking
for someone to put a new faxe on what will basically be a continuation of sorts of Obama’s policies. Obama himself has been thoroughly discredited.
10. Last but not least, everyone also recognizes that Gingrich as a debater is what’s needed to destroy Obama.
He is the ONLY one confident and well-equipped enough to do that.He’s also the ONLY one calling for a whole series of serious debates which are designed to do just htat.
He will prove to be the ANTI-Obama if he can pull it off:
answering all the pseudo-idealistic piffle that got Obama elected, with real-world policy expertise.
You guessed ‘er.
I certainly see your reasoning on the Mormon angle, and I supposed it’s comparing apples to oranges to point out that RINOs like Huntsman and outright idiot Lefties like Harry Reid are also Mormon. Huntsman Governor of a state that is the Capitol of Mormonism and Reid a -—what? Why did Reid get elected to the Senate from a state like Nevada?
Anyway, I understand the two aren’t comparable.
You’re positing that the Dems are engaged in a stealth project, never to be expressed directly, to promote Romney as “the one and only” GOP candidate because his biggest and insurmountable problem would be that he’d have too big a hole to dig himself out of RIGHT OFF THE BAT,and that hole is Mormonism. You could be right. All the more reason to go with someone else.
I certainly see your reasoning on the Mormon angle, and I supposed it’s comparing apples to oranges to point out that RINOs like Huntsman and outright idiot Lefties like Harry Reid are also Mormon. Huntsman Governor of a state that is the Capitol of Mormonism and Reid a -—what? Why did Reid get elected to the Senate from a state like Nevada?
Anyway, I understand the two aren’t comparable.
You’re positing that the Dems are engaged in a stealth project, never to be expressed directly, to promote Romney as “the one and only” GOP candidate because his biggest and insurmountable problem would be that he’d have too big a hole to dig himself out of RIGHT OFF THE BAT,and that hole is Mormonism. You could be right. All the more reason to go with someone else.
Precisely. Electing Mormons at the state and local level is one thing. All politics is local — or at least sufficiently local where people can dismiss a candidate’s Mormonism even if they are not Mormon themselves.
And, don’t forget that regionalism counts for a lot. A Mormon can get elected to the Senate in Nevada and Utah — but would be less likely to get elected in New York or Florida.
Nationally? Sorry, I don’t think so.
Now, if it was a Democrat Mormon... I think that would give the Libs conniption fits, but if his/her positions were sufficiently Liberal, they’d ignore and gloss over his religion.
A Republican Mormon? Not a chance.
And being a RINO will be no defense. Of course, they would much prefer a RINO President over a Conservative, but in the MSM worldview, a RINO is just a cannibal with better table manners. Any Democrat, no matter how flawed is infinitely preferable.
Mark my words, if Romney (or Huntsman) get the nomination, it’s going to be all Mormonism, all the time. And it won’t be complimentary.
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