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'We will live free or you will die': Meet the gun-loving, God-fearing family who shun modern life
DailyMail.co.uk ^ | 16 Nov. 2011 | DailyMail Reporter

Posted on 11/17/2011 8:11:47 AM PST by NakedRampage

They are the gun-toting, scripture-spouting, government-hating Texan family who warn anyone daring enough to approach the fencing around their home: 'We fear no man. We believe in an eye for an eye and a bullet for a bullet.'

Led by grandfather John Joe Gray, the tribe of a dozen or so men, women and children have been waging a war against both local sheriffs and federal agencies for an incredible 11 years.

Welcome to America's longest-running police standoff. It shows no signs of ending.

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They grow their own food and live in a shack and trailer – always wearing holsters, hand-made from animal hide; always carrying weapons

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: militia; texas; trinidad
"...have been waging a war against both local sheriffs and federal agencies"

They've been waging a war, have they? By squatting on their property? No shots fired, no deaths, no standoffs...Some war they've got there.

1 posted on 11/17/2011 8:11:59 AM PST by NakedRampage
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To: NakedRampage
Full title:

'We will live free or you will die': Meet the gun-loving, God-fearing family who shun modern life and have been in a standoff with police for the last 11 years

2 posted on 11/17/2011 8:12:31 AM PST by NakedRampage (Puttin' the "stud" in Bible study)
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To: NakedRampage

Are they recruiting?


3 posted on 11/17/2011 8:13:42 AM PST by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: NakedRampage

They better be carefull having guns,children,and bibles in the same place...the ATF will soon have a brigade down their with tanks to protect those kids by torching the place!


4 posted on 11/17/2011 8:16:18 AM PST by jakerobins
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To: NakedRampage
Heh. They have their own website
 



5 posted on 11/17/2011 8:17:41 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: NakedRampage

sounds like everyone in my part of the world 100 years ago. and i see no problem with it.


6 posted on 11/17/2011 8:19:50 AM PST by GodfearingTexan
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To: All

I’m suprised they’ve been left alone. I doubt it would be to hard to snatch the grandpa, especially if he’s been venturing out of the compound like the article claims.


7 posted on 11/17/2011 8:20:04 AM PST by NakedRampage (Puttin' the "stud" in Bible study)
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To: NakedRampage

Ping


8 posted on 11/17/2011 8:20:32 AM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: NakedRampage

If Janet Reno were still in charge, these “terrorists” would have been barbequed in that trailer, as she did the 28 children in the Waco massacre.

In the mind of the statists who despise freedom from government, anyone who doesn’t bow before Caesar and call him “god” deserves death.


9 posted on 11/17/2011 8:22:37 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: NakedRampage

Some of th elast of a dying breed called American


10 posted on 11/17/2011 8:29:02 AM PST by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: NakedRampage

Minus the law problems this sounds like our life in many ways. We are capable of self-sufficiency....It’ll get better once we get milk cows and harvest next years’ garden.


11 posted on 11/17/2011 8:29:26 AM PST by Grunthor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0heL2Czeraw)
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To: Responsibility2nd
"There's always work to be done," says 31-year-old Jonathan, who is building a log cabin for his wife and children on the property. There are goats to milk, chickens to feed, wood to chop, a garden to cultivate. They work with pistols on their hips and rifles resting nearby.

Electricity is provided by generators, fueled with petroleum brought by sympathizers, who also bring food, clothing, and other items, including an occasional newspaper. With no television, they are tethered to world events by AM, FM and shortwave radio. Three times a week, two of Gray's sons broadcast their own shortwave program called Radio Free Texas.

I wonder how they keep their website up.

12 posted on 11/17/2011 8:31:39 AM PST by Baynative (The penalty for not participating in politics is you will be governed by your inferiors.)
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To: NakedRampage

To the MSM these people are what ALL tea party people are like.


13 posted on 11/17/2011 8:31:45 AM PST by GraceG
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To: NakedRampage
Two comments:

1. The Brits print this stuff just to satisfy their own, smug, metrosexual egos.

2. The Gray family sounds like they are pretty much living an organic, non-industrial, back-to-nature lifestyle the left wants to force on the rest of us. I wonder if any OWS people will show up to help them?

The Grays drink well water, eat vegetables grown in their garden and fish in the river that borders the land covered with a canopy of trees. They live in a ramshackle house and a mobile home and often eat at the picnic table far from the road but visible through the trees.

14 posted on 11/17/2011 8:31:45 AM PST by PGR88 (I'm so open-minded my brains fell out)
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Sounds like the independence mindset of colonial times. No wonder the Brits don’t like it. In America, it’s admirable.


15 posted on 11/17/2011 8:40:40 AM PST by alamogal
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To: NakedRampage

Not a surprising article from a Brit. They should remember a stock of people like this from their history. They ran into a similar bunch at Kings Mountain and Guilford Courthouse.


16 posted on 11/17/2011 8:46:35 AM PST by steveyp
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To: NakedRampage

The daughter is really cute and reminds me of the song “Wolverton Mountain” about a guy named Clifton Cowers. Gotta love this family! I hope they make a movie.


17 posted on 11/17/2011 8:48:07 AM PST by Saundra Duffy ( For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: GodfearingTexan

The founders of this nation were not anarchists and did not reject earthly government.

It’s one thing to oppose a tax, it is another thing to not pay a tax lawfully imposed under the Constitution of Texas.

It is also not conservative to make your own drivers licenses and license plates, when the Constitution and laws of the State of Texas give that authority to the legislature and designated agencies of the executive. Nor is it conservative to not appear in a lawful court, obey lawful court orders and deny a father the right to visit his children without just cause.


18 posted on 11/17/2011 8:51:31 AM PST by GreenLanternCorps ("Barack Obama" is Swahili for "Jimmy Carter".)
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To: jakerobins

In the initial incident, it sounds likely that the trooper was getting in touch with his inner facist, and the grandfather resisted and then failed to show up for his court date. Now it appears that the grandfather has put himself under permanent house arrest, which costs taxpayrs exactly nothing.

Contrast this with the lawlessness of the OWS crowd and those who live in the inner-cities of places such as Chicago or Dallas. As long as inner-city crimes rates are what they are, leftist mobs are breaking the law in serious ways with near impunity, and government at all levels is behaving lawlessly, there is no rational or moral reason for using tax dollars to go after the elderly fellow.


19 posted on 11/17/2011 8:51:44 AM PST by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: NakedRampage

Great article. I had not heard about these fine folks. Thanks for posting it.


20 posted on 11/17/2011 8:55:37 AM PST by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American that a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: Grunthor
The Gray's law problems started when they stepped on some enforcer's toes. You get crossed up with small town law, and they are going to try and pin something on you.

This is one of those things that would never have happened had government just left them alone.

21 posted on 11/17/2011 8:56:56 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: NakedRampage

I’m a little jealous of their guts ...and their fishing hole, gardens, and all but its their idealistic toughness that is really admirable. They have what I lack.


22 posted on 11/17/2011 8:58:24 AM PST by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American that a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: NakedRampage

I had almost forgot about Mr.Gray and his clan!

They live down the road about 15 miles from me and I all but completely forgot about them!lol!

I may have to do a drive by and see if they still have the signs up.

Thanks for posting this.


23 posted on 11/17/2011 9:21:10 AM PST by waterhill (Strawberry jello is wild pig crack, they love it more than life)
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To: steveyp

I had family involved in Kings Mountain. On the American side, that is.


24 posted on 11/17/2011 9:24:54 AM PST by waterhill (Strawberry jello is wild pig crack, they love it more than life)
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To: NakedRampage; All
I must admit, what really got me was the homemade holsters.

Awesome work, and by hand!

25 posted on 11/17/2011 9:33:34 AM PST by NakedRampage (Puttin' the "stud" in Bible study)
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To: GreenLanternCorps

well, yeah, i guess you got me there.


26 posted on 11/17/2011 9:46:13 AM PST by GodfearingTexan
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To: NakedRampage

Yep, I reckon if one is a clueless reporter, commercial belts/holsters made from cow hide could have been classified as “hand made from animal skins”! HAW

Sounds to me like these folks would make good neighbors...no problems, no nosiness/gossip, no loud parties, no drugs, no burglars (from their side of the fence anyway) and I could use their shooting range for target practice!

JC


27 posted on 11/18/2011 3:24:20 AM PST by cracker45
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To: NakedRampage

I went back and read the whole article. The authorities should leave these folks alone! So Chuck Norris actually visited the compound and tried to offer assistance.

They owe back taxes. Luckily, apparently the authorities are really afraid of the grandpa and his gun totin’ relatives.

I admire this family very much. More power to them.


28 posted on 11/20/2011 7:18:33 PM PST by Saundra Duffy ( For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: NakedRampage

A cold war is still a war.


29 posted on 11/21/2011 8:41:41 AM PST by arderkrag (Georgia is God's Country. LOOKING FOR ROLEPLAYERS. Check Profile.)
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To: NakedRampage

F R E E D O M!!!


30 posted on 11/21/2011 8:52:35 AM PST by Rightly Biased (Do you know how awkward it is to have a political argument with a naked man?)
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