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Carrie Fisher slams William Shatner's claims Star Trek is better than Star Wars
dailymail.co.uk ^ | 17 Nov 2011 | Mike Larkin

Posted on 11/18/2011 9:55:32 PM PST by smokingfrog

It is the debate that has been raging between generations of science fiction fans.

But Star Trek star William Shatner believed he had delivered the coup de grace two months ago when he delivered a stinging critique he thought proved his franchise was superior.

But there is a new hope for Star Wars fans, as original cast member Carrie Fisher has struck back with a rebuke that could return the Jedi-filled universe back to prominence.

In a somewhat rambling YouTube video, the Princess Leia star let rip on the rival sci fi favourite.

She said: 'They are not in the same league. i mean they have the word star in the title, and there is space travel.

'Where do they go to, Klingon? It just sounds like a laundry detergent.'

The successful actress and author had a list of grievances with the television and movie franchise that she said made it inferior, including lacklustre visuals, make-up, toys and video games.

She said: 'Show me a special effect, maybe they are just effects, they are not called special effects.

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TOPICS: TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: carriefisher; shatner; showbiz; startrek; starwars
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To: smokingfrog

“Lost in Space” was better than either of them.

Nothing approaches the profound Sci-Fi allegory of Dr. Smith as a celery on the vegetable planet.

Danger! Danger!


181 posted on 11/19/2011 6:05:17 AM PST by Carl LaFong (Experts say experts should be ignored.)
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To: irishtenor
Best sci-fi show? Red Dwarf!

Agreed! It was far more entertaining and imaginative than either ST or SW. Sci-Fi (deliberately!) used as a platform for comedy.

There has been nothing like it, before or since. The first six seasons were all classics.

182 posted on 11/19/2011 6:07:10 AM PST by aLurker
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To: smokingfrog
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183 posted on 11/19/2011 6:12:21 AM PST by 2sheds
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To: bray
Star Trek was one of the original commie dogma shows.

I quickly got that impression. That's why I only watched a few episodes.

184 posted on 11/19/2011 6:13:08 AM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: tanknetter; smokingfrog; irishtenor; AnotherUnixGeek; CounterCounterCulture; delacoert; RobbyS; ...
Two words: Spock's. Brain.

To this day, when I want to sum up how bad Star Trek was, I say:
"Brain and brain! What is BRAIN?!?!?"
(One of the more horrible lines from that episode.)

I like neither Star Wars nor Star Trek.

For a good laugh, go with Red Dwarf
For a great message of Individual vs State, go with Firefly/Serenity
185 posted on 11/19/2011 6:15:49 AM PST by ct_libertarian (W.W.J.G.D? What would John Galt do?)
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To: tcrlaf
I think the Original 70’s “UFO” may have been the greatest sci-fi of the modern era, . . .

I remember that show from when I was a kid.
Really weird, creepy stuff.
If it's available on Netflix I'll have to watch it again.
186 posted on 11/19/2011 6:18:55 AM PST by ct_libertarian (W.W.J.G.D? What would John Galt do?)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
Star Wars is more a Pirate movie and don’t even get me started on Star trek the Next Generation which I like to call Star Trek the anal retentive politically correct version.

Ugh, Star Trek:TNG was so appallingly horrid. It was nothing more than every PC liberal's pipe dream thinly disguised as science fiction. The stupid idea that if people will just talk, they can resolve any difference; that a non-capitalist society can actually exist; that euthanasia of people who reach a certain age is desirable, etc. I never saw more than a few episodes of that one.

OTOH, nothing beats the original Star Trek. Spock was so intelligent and logical--when I was 6, I wanted to grow up to be just like him!

187 posted on 11/19/2011 6:22:58 AM PST by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: All

This is in the article:

“Carrie, 55, also poked fun at Star Trek’s infamous rival camps of fans, the Trekkies and the Trekkers.

She pointed out that unpopular former US vice president Dick Cheney, and said that the show’s outfits are something that would be seen at a Sarah Palin rally.”

I have no idea what she said about Cheney, since the reporter forgot to mention it...but I expect all Palin fans to now go pit bull on Star Wars.


188 posted on 11/19/2011 6:27:26 AM PST by Mr Rogers ("they found themselves made strangers in their own country")
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To: Timber Rattler
Ahh yes, The Omega Glory

"WE THE PEOPLE!"

"These words were not for kings. They must apply to ALL the people, or they mean NOTHING! Do you understand?"

Anyone who can watch that scene and not get the chills just doesn't get it.

189 posted on 11/19/2011 6:27:57 AM PST by Cable225 (TACT is for those not witty enough for sarcasm!)
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To: Darkwolf377
BTW, Carrie Fischer looks hideous—bad face lift or what?

That made me look, and I wish to hell I hadn't...she's only 55???

190 posted on 11/19/2011 6:33:09 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Darkwolf377

Star trek took a lot of chances in it’s day including the first interracial kiss on tv. People forget it was made in the late 60s and those seemingly cheap special effects were state of the art at the time. Cgi didn’t come along until star wars 10 years later


191 posted on 11/19/2011 6:38:23 AM PST by Mom MD (The country needs Obamacare like Nancy Pelosi needs a Halloween mask)
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To: hosepipe
Star Trek made Star Wars possible.. and several(many) other iterations..

And E. E. "Doc" Smith's Lensman series (from the '30s) made both Star Trek and Star Wars possible. George Lucas has admitted that the Lensman series was an inspiration for Star Wars, and I'll bet Roddenberry knew of Smith's works.

When I read the Lensman books in the early '70s, I thought it would be great to make them into movies, then Star Wars came out, and I realized I wasn't the only one who felt that way....

192 posted on 11/19/2011 6:43:34 AM PST by nobdysfool (If the government was in charge of the Sahara, there would be a shortage of sand....)
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To: infowarrior
...as annoying humans are so common...

...as we will all discover starting this coming Thursday...

193 posted on 11/19/2011 6:46:42 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: RobbyS
I agree; Portman was exceptional is Black Swan.

I heard she wasn't a fan of the movies and didn't know anything about them. Totally robotic performances with tripe dialogue.

I wonder if folks knew that the hysterical "I love you / I know" exchange between Leia and Han was the result of Harrison Ford ad-libbing. Harrison was supposed to say "I love you" back, but he just knew his character, Han, would not say something like that so easily and tossed the "I know" out during taping instead. The set exploded with laughter, so they kept it in.

If the actors don't know the characters or aren't invested in them, they won't fight to grow them or keep them in character.

That's one of the reasons I ultimately prefer Star Trek. They had very little in the way of special effects to hang their performances on - and had to rely on dialogue and character to advance the story line.

194 posted on 11/19/2011 7:00:10 AM PST by TheWriterTX (Rock you like a Herman Cain 2012)
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To: sheik yerbouty
If micturation is involved, I think Captain Kirk is going to win.
(Unless that kidney stone problem shows up again.)


195 posted on 11/19/2011 7:27:14 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog

Just watched the video

Question: How much did Carrie Fisher drink before??

And she’s only 55!! WTH, she looks like she’s about 70!!

And what is it with formally attractive women from Hollywood and really bad plastic surgery. Why dod they think that skin pulled to tight it can’t move makes you more “attractive”?? Makes you look alien scary if you ask me.

Shatner’s video much better.


196 posted on 11/19/2011 7:31:54 AM PST by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: 6SJ7

Exactly! It’s even more apparent in the novelization which came out at the time. I don’t own it but have read that there are a few more on-target references.


197 posted on 11/19/2011 7:43:45 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (Obama: The stupid person`s idea of a smart person.)
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To: hosepipe

Flash Gordon made it all possible starting in the 1930s.


198 posted on 11/19/2011 7:52:54 AM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: smokingfrog

Tempest in a teapot...uh, er...vacuum.


199 posted on 11/19/2011 8:05:41 AM PST by driftless2
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To: smokingfrog

The only way for Star Wars to redeem itself would be for a new movie with two hours of the Death Star blowing up planets, and for a giant tree shredder to be fed the Ewok race, one Ewok at a time. And put Jar-Jar in the Aliens 3 YYX prison. Hey, I like comedy....


200 posted on 11/19/2011 8:09:12 AM PST by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.....)
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