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Carrie Fisher slams William Shatner's claims Star Trek is better than Star Wars
dailymail.co.uk ^ | 17 Nov 2011 | Mike Larkin

Posted on 11/18/2011 9:55:32 PM PST by smokingfrog

It is the debate that has been raging between generations of science fiction fans.

But Star Trek star William Shatner believed he had delivered the coup de grace two months ago when he delivered a stinging critique he thought proved his franchise was superior.

But there is a new hope for Star Wars fans, as original cast member Carrie Fisher has struck back with a rebuke that could return the Jedi-filled universe back to prominence.

In a somewhat rambling YouTube video, the Princess Leia star let rip on the rival sci fi favourite.

She said: 'They are not in the same league. i mean they have the word star in the title, and there is space travel.

'Where do they go to, Klingon? It just sounds like a laundry detergent.'

The successful actress and author had a list of grievances with the television and movie franchise that she said made it inferior, including lacklustre visuals, make-up, toys and video games.

She said: 'Show me a special effect, maybe they are just effects, they are not called special effects.

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KEYWORDS: carriefisher; shatner; showbiz; startrek; starwars
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Star Wars is SOOO Much Better than Star Trek
1 posted on 11/18/2011 9:55:36 PM PST by smokingfrog
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To: smokingfrog

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNxhrPaaCA4

Star Trek vs Star Wars.


2 posted on 11/18/2011 9:57:56 PM PST by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: smokingfrog

Heh... Star Wars was for non Science Fiction fans... Heck, even the ‘girls’ liked this...

Star Trek - So much better...heh, real science fiction - man stuff.


3 posted on 11/18/2011 10:00:13 PM PST by Deagle
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To: smokingfrog
Yeah, Star Wars has Jar Jar Binks — top that Star Trek! < /s
4 posted on 11/18/2011 10:00:17 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: smokingfrog

Oh, I don’t know about that.

Star Wars was exciting when it came out but it really doesn’t seem as potentially ‘real’ as Star Trek, especially now that there is a new series of movies coming out, the alternate reality Star Trek, which does seem to be entertaining.


5 posted on 11/18/2011 10:00:57 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS U.S.A. PRESIDENT)
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To: smokingfrog
'Where do they go to, Klingon? It just sounds like a laundry detergent.'

I don't really have a dog in this fight, but I'd still like to point out that if I were a Star Wars backer I'd avoid calling attention to silly names... just sayin'.

6 posted on 11/18/2011 10:02:17 PM PST by RingerSIX (My wife and I took an AIDS vaccine that they offer down at our Church.)
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To: smokingfrog

7 posted on 11/18/2011 10:05:17 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: smokingfrog

STAR TREK (The TV show)was so bad you can tell it was made on the cheap!

I was only able to set through one full show about a machine that ate planets. The others were terrible!

STAR WARS was much better but too many people have become way too enamored with it. I could not set through the later 1990s versions as they were so awful.


8 posted on 11/18/2011 10:06:22 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

Even a Tribble is manlier than Jar-Jar Binks.


9 posted on 11/18/2011 10:07:29 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: smokingfrog

A handful of the original ST series episodes were good TV, that’s all. The original Star Wars and Empire Strikes Back were excellent and original takes on old SF cliches.

But it’s all garbage—fun, but garbage, while these two go on like it’s Shakespeare. Star Wars is relentlessly childish, Star Trek relentlessly PC and pretentious.

Neither is good SF. Neither takes any chances.

They both suck.


10 posted on 11/18/2011 10:09:51 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Obama: The stupid person`s idea of a smart person.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
STAR TREK (The TV show)was so bad you can tell it was made on the cheap! I was only able to set through one full show about a machine that ate planets. The others were terrible!

Take a look at those episodes today. They've been remastered in HD with all new CGI special effects. Aside from the uniforms, nothing looks cheap anymore.

11 posted on 11/18/2011 10:10:33 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Deagle
Heh... Star Wars was for non Science Fiction fans... Heck, even the ‘girls’ liked this...

Star Trek - So much better...heh, real science fiction - man stuff.

No doubt about it.

How's this for irony, the only time Star Wars beat Star Trek was when Ms, Fischer was wearing her slave girl bikini.

12 posted on 11/18/2011 10:10:47 PM PST by eddie willers
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To: smokingfrog

BTW, Carrie Fischer looks hideous—bad face lift or what?


13 posted on 11/18/2011 10:11:24 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Obama: The stupid person`s idea of a smart person.)
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To: smokingfrog

I never hear Star Wars dialog quoted for occasions as if it were Proverbs.

It wouldn’t be logical.


14 posted on 11/18/2011 10:12:09 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (REPEAL WASHINGTON! -- Islam Delenda Est! -- I Want Constantinople Back. -- Rumble thee forth.)
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To: Darkwolf377
Neither is good SF. Neither takes any chances.

Season One of Space:1999 was magnificent compared to ST and SW.

15 posted on 11/18/2011 10:12:25 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: smokingfrog

Star Trek made Star Wars possible.. and several(many) other iterations..


16 posted on 11/18/2011 10:12:35 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

DIAF


17 posted on 11/18/2011 10:12:39 PM PST by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: smokingfrog

Han Solo.

Harrison Ford in his {drool} prime.

Just sayin’.


18 posted on 11/18/2011 10:12:47 PM PST by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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To: smokingfrog

Hey Carrie: “City on the Edge of Forever”. ‘Nuff said.

Well, except, “Edith Keeler must die.”


19 posted on 11/18/2011 10:15:17 PM PST by Explorer89 (And now, let the wild rumpus start!!)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

Never tell me the odds!
Luke I am your father, etc..
“Let the Wookie win”
“This battlestation is insignificant next to the power of the force”


20 posted on 11/18/2011 10:15:27 PM PST by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: smokingfrog

They were both good. Controversy settled.


21 posted on 11/18/2011 10:17:46 PM PST by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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22 posted on 11/18/2011 10:17:59 PM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC BY DONATING NOW! Sarah's New Ping List - tell me if you want on it.)
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To: Allegra

I think Harrison has held up much better than Carrie. She looks more like Jabba the Hut now.


23 posted on 11/18/2011 10:18:06 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
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To: buccaneer81

I agree 100%. Space:1999 gets dissed—and deserves it—for many things, but it was at least different. Each week was like a Gothic in space—space was SCARY. The characters acted like adults—I could imagine Landau’s character watching one of Kirk’s histrionic explosions and saying “Calm down.”

It’s at least WEIRD. The other two are so bland.


24 posted on 11/18/2011 10:19:02 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Obama: The stupid person`s idea of a smart person.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

LOL!


25 posted on 11/18/2011 10:19:11 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

26 posted on 11/18/2011 10:19:40 PM PST by EEGator
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To: Darkwolf377
BTW, Carrie Fischer looks hideous—bad face lift or what?

Probably 34 years' worth of sag.

27 posted on 11/18/2011 10:20:38 PM PST by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: smokingfrog

Carrie...Get a Life!


28 posted on 11/18/2011 10:20:49 PM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: BenKenobi

Seems I caused a disturbance in the Force.

BTW, I lived in the far north for decades. DIAF didn’t sound that bad there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZG9kP9kAiY


29 posted on 11/18/2011 10:21:39 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: BenKenobi

“May the Force Be With You.”

“I love you.” “I know.”

“That Hayden what’s-his-name is a horrible actor.”


30 posted on 11/18/2011 10:22:54 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Obama: The stupid person`s idea of a smart person.)
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To: BenKenobi

“You’re all clear, kid! Now let’s blow this thing and go home!”


31 posted on 11/18/2011 10:23:00 PM PST by Stonewall Jackson (Democrats: "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.")
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To: Darkwolf377
They both suck.

Rot in hell. LOL!

32 posted on 11/18/2011 10:23:55 PM PST by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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To: buccaneer81

Space 1999 definitely had it moments. Also, Blake’s 7 was rather interesting.


33 posted on 11/18/2011 10:24:19 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: smokingfrog

34 posted on 11/18/2011 10:25:16 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Deagle
My favorite. ... "Total, complete, absolute annihilation."
35 posted on 11/18/2011 10:25:28 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: smokingfrog

They both blow chunks. Fireball XL5 rules.


36 posted on 11/18/2011 10:26:17 PM PST by Old Flat Toad (Pima County, home of the single vehicle accident with 40 victims.)
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To: hosepipe
Star Trek made Star Wars possible.. and several(many) other iterations..

No it didn't. Had nothing to do with it, and SF was considered box office poison--if anything, the studio could point to how ST was never a ratings-getter as proof investing in SF was a waste of money. In fact, Star Wars showed there was a broad audience for SF, and made the Star Trek follow-ups possible--Star Trek The Motion Picture was made to cash in on the Star Wars craze.

And Forbidden Planet made Star Trek possible.

37 posted on 11/18/2011 10:26:23 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Obama: The stupid person`s idea of a smart person.)
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To: smokingfrog

Google fight says

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38 posted on 11/18/2011 10:26:47 PM PST by ThomasThomas ( If you can't laugh at your self, I will for you.)
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To: buccaneer81
Even a Tribble is manlier than Jar-Jar Binks.

Take that back. Don't make me go all personal on you. LOL!

39 posted on 11/18/2011 10:27:57 PM PST by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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To: smokingfrog

Both Star Wars an Star Trek were tainted a bit by leftism, but Star Trek much more than Star Wars. At least in Star Wars, the good guys are fighting for a republic, and against tyranny. In Star Trek, the “good guys” are basically the USSR of space, and the closest thing to capitalists are the Ferengi, which are painted as petty, amoral, greedy hucksters.


40 posted on 11/18/2011 10:28:12 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

In the late 1960’s when it came out it was pretty good!


41 posted on 11/18/2011 10:29:54 PM PST by tallyhoe
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To: Darkwolf377
The characters acted like adults—I could imagine Landau’s character watching one of Kirk’s histrionic explosions and saying “Calm down.”

Until producer Fred Freiberger from ST Season 3 came to Space:1999 Season 2 and tried to turn Koenig into Kirk.

Game over.

42 posted on 11/18/2011 10:30:16 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: ThomasThomas

Best sci-fi show?

There are lots of fan favorites.

I would say its the remake of Battlestar Galactica.

Then Fringe and the X-Files.

Great shows.


43 posted on 11/18/2011 10:31:32 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: writer33

Did I tell you my thoughts on Yoda? LOL!


44 posted on 11/18/2011 10:31:56 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: smokingfrog

Back in the day, the first couple Star Wars were the only movies I ever stood in line for. After those and especially with the recent chapters, blah, can’t be bothered to watch them on tv.

With Star Trek, much like The Three Stooges, must require a certain mind set to appreciate. One is too ridiculous to watch, the other is too moronic to watch.


45 posted on 11/18/2011 10:32:52 PM PST by bgill (The Obama administration is staging a coup. Wake up, America, before it's too late.)
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To: Stonewall Jackson

Monica Lewinsky?


46 posted on 11/18/2011 10:33:46 PM PST by MissouriConservative (Perry 2012)
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To: buccaneer81

Season 1 was good, but Season 2 was too soft and attempted to be character-oriented. I don’t see the Freiberger-Koenig as being anything like Kirk, though, nor was there an attempt. Koenig was devoted to one girlfriend in the series, bed-hopping, didn’t engage in the weekly histriionics, and just seemed more adult. The US funders of the show wanted him, and he ruined the show. I have no idea how Fred “Show-Killer” Freiberger had a career in a genre he had no feeling for.


47 posted on 11/18/2011 10:35:12 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Obama: The stupid person`s idea of a smart person.)
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To: Darkwolf377

[ And Forbidden Planet made Star Trek possible. ]

Thats also true.. That movie made the genre..
Amazing with what they had to work with...
Even now its almost believable..
Any thats not seen it... should...


48 posted on 11/18/2011 10:35:27 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: buccaneer81

Die, scum!!!!!! LOL!

They were both good at the time. Now, it depends on my mood.


49 posted on 11/18/2011 10:35:56 PM PST by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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To: buccaneer81

“Season One of Space:1999 was magnificent compared to ST and SW.”

After that, not so much...
I think they ran out of ideas.

I think the Original 70’s “UFO” may have been the greatest sci-fi of the modern era, especially given the tech at the time, and the futuristic mind of Garry Anderson to pull it off.


50 posted on 11/18/2011 10:36:47 PM PST by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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