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Anyone else confused by the commercial about starving Jews in Jerusalem?
vanity | 12/11/11 | winston's julia

Posted on 12/11/2011 12:48:05 PM PST by Winstons Julia

I had seen commercials for that organization International Fellowship of Christians and Jews about helping Jews in the former USSR, but they have a new commercial now. They ask for 25$ to feed starving Jews in Jerusalem. They say they'll stick in a blessing note.

I wasn't aware that Jerusalem was having a problem feeding its citizens.

Does anyone have additional info?


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1 posted on 12/11/2011 12:48:09 PM PST by Winstons Julia
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To: Winstons Julia

Yes, very strange. I thought it was a joke at first.


2 posted on 12/11/2011 12:50:19 PM PST by GreatRoad (O < 0)
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To: Winstons Julia

“Starving” is a huge exaggeration. There is poverty in Israel like in any other first world country.

The “poverty” is relative. Comparing the poor in Israel to the poor in Ethiopia is apples and oranges.

However, there are a lot of religious Jews (Haredim) that fall below the official “poverty line” set up by the Israeli goverment.

Please do keep in mind that the State of Israel has a very generous welfare policy and your money may be better spent elsewhere.


3 posted on 12/11/2011 12:53:37 PM PST by SoftwareEngineer
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To: Winstons Julia

It’s con to steal your money IMO. It’s not the Israeli government, or anyone connected to the government asking for money. It’s an American based tax exempt not for profit Chicago based American group.

I’d be shocked if any of the money they got ever actually even went to feed anyone.


4 posted on 12/11/2011 12:54:44 PM PST by hitchwolf
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To: hitchwolf

I actually looked up the charity and don’t see where they are not legit.

I was just surprised at the commercial.


5 posted on 12/11/2011 12:57:03 PM PST by Winstons Julia (Hello OWS? We don't need a revolution like China's; China needs a revolution like OURS.)
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To: Winstons Julia

I got a request for donations in the mail quite a while ago for the starving Jews. I did not donate.


6 posted on 12/11/2011 12:59:38 PM PST by Ditter
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To: Winstons Julia

I think it’s aimed at Christians, not Jews. I sincerely don’t believe that Jews would let other Jews starve....ANYWHERE, but especially in Israel.


7 posted on 12/11/2011 1:00:35 PM PST by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Winstons Julia

My Jewish husband HATES this commercial and think it’s a fraud.


8 posted on 12/11/2011 1:01:44 PM PST by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Winstons Julia
I was rather startled by the commercial’s implication that Israel is a third-world nation. According to the CIA World Factbook (https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/index.html), that's far from the truth:

National GDP per capita rankings (PPP 2010 US$):
42 - European Union $32,700
43 - Italy $30,500
44 - Monaco $30,000
45 - South Korea $30,000
46 - Israel $29,800

All is not rosy, however. Nearly a quarter (23.6%) of their populace lives at or below the local poverty line of $7.30 per person per day. And like the U.S., the economy exports less than it imports. They rely on private and U.S. largess to make up the difference.

9 posted on 12/11/2011 1:08:53 PM PST by earglasses (I was blind, and now I hear...)
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To: Ann Archy

I am with your husband. I have good intuition, and can smell a scam quicker than a hummingbird.

Do you remember the commercials with the same guy wanting donations for the poor Jews in Russia who couldn’t celebrate Hannukah? (Hope I spelled that right1)

Perhaps they do send some boxes over, but I have a feeling someone is making a nice living skimming a lot off the top.


10 posted on 12/11/2011 1:15:21 PM PST by jacquej
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To: earglasses

Suspect statistics. Italy belongs to the European Union.


11 posted on 12/11/2011 1:15:28 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Winstons Julia

I knew it was a scam because the guy was saying nice things about christians.


12 posted on 12/11/2011 1:20:26 PM PST by rabidralph
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To: hitchwolf

For what they spend on all those commercials they could send these people lobster dinners!


13 posted on 12/11/2011 1:20:53 PM PST by almost done by half
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To: Winstons Julia

Jerusalem has a large population of Senior Citizens without families. People who have escaped persecution in other countries like Russia where families didn’t come with them or didn’t survive. They don’t have families to support them and the communities there have usually always helped but like everywhere else in the world, you will still find poverty.

I much prefer these voluntary programs over government sponsored programs.


14 posted on 12/11/2011 1:25:04 PM PST by mnehring
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To: hitchwolf

This is a good organization with a good track record.


15 posted on 12/11/2011 1:26:01 PM PST by mnehring
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To: Winstons Julia

I saw this commercial recently. Made my spidey-sense tingle something fierce. Felt more like one of those “Buy Gold Now!” commercials than any legitimate charity ad I’ve seen. Very slick, very hard-sell. I could be dead wrong, of course, but I would need to do some serious investigation before I could feel comfortable sending them any money.


16 posted on 12/11/2011 1:27:15 PM PST by DemforBush (A Repo man is *always* intense!)
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To: Winstons Julia

I sent them money a couple years ago to provide Passover meals for Holocaust survivors in the former Soviet Union.

I swear they’ve spent every dime of my money on mailings to get me to send more money.


17 posted on 12/11/2011 1:28:38 PM PST by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: mnehring

“They don’t have families to support them and the communities there have usually always helped but like everywhere else in the world, you will still find poverty.”

I guess this is what bothered me. It seems odd that there would be these formerly persecuted Jewish senior citizens starving in Jerusalem as portrayed in the commercial. Certainly Israel has programs to prevent this?


18 posted on 12/11/2011 1:36:26 PM PST by Winstons Julia (Hello OWS? We don't need a revolution like China's; China needs a revolution like OURS.)
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To: mnehring

Well I hope so.


19 posted on 12/11/2011 1:37:35 PM PST by hitchwolf
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To: Winstons Julia

I’d seen their commercials for the Jewish elderly in Siberia. If aid is needed in Israel, perhaps this will explain some of the need. From http://www.bbb.org/charity-reviews/national/religious/international-fellowship-of-christians-and-jews-in-chicago-il-1962 (edited into paragraphs for readability):

IFCJ’s On Wings of Eagles program, working through Keren Hayesod and the Jewish Agency for Israel (JAFI), funds aliyah (immigration to Israel for needy Jews around the world, and provides them with klitah (resettlement) assistance to help ensure that they become full, productive citizens of Israel

Working through various charities in the former Soviet Union, Isaiah 58 funds the distribution of food, clothing, medicine, heating fuel, and other essential needs to the poor elderly and children in the former Soviet Union.

Working through charities in Israel, Guardians of Israel funds initiatives that aim to ease the suffering of needy Israelis, providing them with food, housing, medical care, clothing, and other essentials

Stand for Israel engages people both spiritually and politically on behalf of Israel and the Jewish people, encouraging them to “pray for the peace of Jerusalem” and providing them with the facts they need to advocate for the Jewish State and fight anti-Israel bias.


20 posted on 12/11/2011 1:42:42 PM PST by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: hitchwolf

Apparently the ad is targeting the wealthy American Jews who consistently vote (D)umb.


21 posted on 12/11/2011 1:54:19 PM PST by proudpapa
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To: earglasses
And like the U.S., the economy exports less than it imports. They rely on private and U.S. largess to make up the difference.

I don't quibble with your statistics; they're quite interesting. But your statement about exporting less than importing and having to have the difference made up is wrong.

A trade deficit applies only to goods and services. A negative balance in those means that, instead of buying Israel's produced goods in return, foreigners are investing in Israeli bonds, stocks or real estate. They have to -- Israel is the only place in the world where you can spend Israeli currency.

And, just as in the U.S., that invested capital is then used to expand the local economy.

American aid to Israel isn't to compensate for their trade deficit, it's to help them pay for a military all out of proportion to their size -- which is for very good reason, of course.

22 posted on 12/11/2011 2:21:21 PM PST by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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To: Winstons Julia
There are lots of Jewish beggars in Jerusalem. These are almost entirely the ultra-Orthodox who have big families and spend most of their time studying religious texts.

ML/NJ

23 posted on 12/11/2011 3:55:34 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: Winstons Julia
I actually looked up the charity and don’t see where they are not legit.

It can be difficult to tell. I recall almost sending money to a charity assisting rescuing dogs during Katrina. Gave to the SPCA instead, and a yaer later saw that the people that ran it were charged with fraud and theft.

24 posted on 12/11/2011 4:15:58 PM PST by expat1000
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To: Winstons Julia

That is explained in the commercial. Because the bulk of Israel’s resources are used for defense against terrorism, there is a shortage of funds that would ordinarily help the people. I have no doubt that it is a legitimate charitable cause.


25 posted on 12/11/2011 5:04:38 PM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: Winstons Julia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahane_Yehuda_Market


26 posted on 12/11/2011 5:06:48 PM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: Winstons Julia

It’s most likely a bs shake-down.


27 posted on 12/11/2011 5:19:03 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Winstons Julia
I actually looked up the charity and don’t see where they are not legit.

Did they brake down there operating costs?

28 posted on 12/12/2011 12:15:17 PM PST by dearolddad
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To: Ann Archy
it's still being broadcast in 2012; ever since the scandal a year ago whereby there was apparent skimming of contributions; that was the headline.
I was amazed at this commercial on Fox's new shows, and the images looked as if they came from a prison or camp, all pathetic.
29 posted on 11/30/2012 9:59:14 AM PST by whitneymuse (Ingraham still not heard in San Diego, CA)
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To: Ann Archy

I agree with your husband. I hate this commercial. It’s blatant emotionalism trying to move people to give. I have always wondered if it was true. I did give for people to fly back to Israel a long time ago and I don’t regret that, but this is suspect!


30 posted on 07/20/2015 2:59:41 PM PDT by Sruss745
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To: proudpapa
Apparently the ad is targeting the wealthy American Jews who consistently vote (D)umb.

They don't watch Fox News, where the commercial usually plays.

Plus, if they give to Israel they have more established organizations.

Yes, the commercial plays on the idea that things are worse off in Israel than they are, but you can always find poor or poorer people in any country, so they may be legit.

31 posted on 07/20/2015 3:16:29 PM PDT by x
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To: Sruss745

OMG!!! That post was from 2011!!!!!! You must be a VERY busy person!!!


32 posted on 07/20/2015 5:59:35 PM PDT by Ann Archy (ABORTION....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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