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PEARL HARBOR MOTHER OF ALL CONSPIRACIES
BBC ^ | 12/14/11 | BBC

Posted on 12/14/2011 11:56:24 AM PST by STD

He who controls the past, controls the future. He who controls the present controls the past. The real reason we can't be trusted with the truth about Pearl Harbor; the reason we can't be allowed to know about the treason of FDR boils down to one current fact; the democrat Party is merely a front for worldwide Communism. If every school child learned the truth about FDR's treason, the democrat party would never win another national election.

You may wish to bookmark this article because it's rather long because footnotes are used to document this most tragic chapter of American History. Enjoy!

PEARL HARBOR

MOTHER OF ALL CONSPIRACIES

BBC Documentary: Sacrifice at Pearl Harbor

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"...everything that the Japanese were planning to do was known to the United States..." ARMY BOARD, 1944 President Roosevelt (FDR) provoked the attack, knew about it in advance and covered up his failure to warn the Hawaiian commanders. FDR needed the attack to sucker Hitler to declare war, since the public and Congress were overwhelmingly against entering the war in Europe. It was his backdoor to war. FDR blinded the commanders at Pearl Harbor and set them up by -

denying intelligence to Hawaii (HI) on Nov 27, misleading the commanders into thinking negotiations with Japan were continuing to prevent them from realizing the war was on having false information sent to HI about the location of the Japanese carrier fleet.

(Excerpt) Read more at video.google.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Education; History
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; communists; fdr; treason
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To: STD

... and FDR’s real birth certificate was never posted on the internet AND he didn’t have a real Social Security number when he was elected, his administration shamelessly made up a number for him after he was already in the office for 2 years when the missing SS# came to light!!!

Now it’s all coming together.


21 posted on 12/14/2011 12:54:33 PM PST by PalinPlease
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To: STD

I’m always fascinated by the idea that our embargo somehow forced the Japanese into attacking us,,, that they were left with no choice. We did nothing to prevent them from buying oil elsewhere. They COULD have gone elsewhere and BOUGHT It. Japan ALONE decided that if a nation did not want to support their road show in China, and would not sell them supplies, that it was justified to attack that nation.
FDR didn’t force Japan to attack,,,,,


22 posted on 12/14/2011 12:54:51 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: STD

I am certainly no fan of FDR, there is no question that he despised Hitler and wanted the US to join Britain to defeat him, Churchill said as much in his post-war history. But there is no evidence that he wanted the US in TWO wars, in Europe AND the Pacific at the same time! Wanting a war with Hitler is not equivalent to wanting a war with Japan.

Besides, how was FDR to know Gen. Short’s men on station atop the mountain would misinterpret the radar signals of the incoming Jap planes? FDR had nothing to do with that. Had these soldiers sounded the alarm right then and there, at least some of the devastation might have been averted.

It was the element of total surprise that was the key to the Jap success. If the destruction of the fleet at anchor and Gen. Short’s warplanes was what FDR wanted, looks like he would have seen to it that the radar atop the mountain would have NOT have been functioning or manned that fateful morning.


23 posted on 12/14/2011 1:00:07 PM PST by sasportas
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To: STD

So Hitler, Mussolini, and Hirohito were all outmaneuvered and goaded into war by FDR?
Is this really saying that the Third Reich wasn’t all that bad?


24 posted on 12/14/2011 1:00:41 PM PST by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: STD

“K”


25 posted on 12/14/2011 1:00:48 PM PST by Lazamataz (That's all.)
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To: STD

Here’s the link to the source of the hard-to-read text:

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/pearl/www.geocities.com/Pentagon/6315/pearl.html


26 posted on 12/14/2011 1:03:23 PM PST by phil_t
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To: Darksheare; STD; brewcrew; DesertRhino
EVERYTHING IS FUNNY WHEN YOU ADD BENNY HILL MUSIC!!!!
27 posted on 12/14/2011 1:07:37 PM PST by Lazamataz (That's all.)
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To: Lazamataz

LOL


28 posted on 12/14/2011 1:11:22 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Lazamataz

Yikes.
Saw video of a traffic messup to that tune once.


29 posted on 12/14/2011 1:20:52 PM PST by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: arrogantsob
I have no doubt that govts have massive secrets and are constantly busy "arranging" things...

but you have to not let it ruin your life...

there is only so much anger and anxiety we can handle...

live simply....try to enjoy your little life....try not to buy into every pop fad and keep your values your whole life...

life is essentially good if you don't take it too seriously...

30 posted on 12/14/2011 1:23:12 PM PST by cherry
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To: Darksheare
You mean this car crash?
31 posted on 12/14/2011 1:27:55 PM PST by Lazamataz (That's all.)
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To: Lazamataz

Something like that.


32 posted on 12/14/2011 1:33:12 PM PST by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: STD
Ahh... The joys of revisionist history and the comfortable feeling of assurance that hindsight brings.

You almost wouldn't think that the US was in a really, really bad way in the Pacific in 1942, with the outcome of the war in no way certain.

33 posted on 12/14/2011 1:38:26 PM PST by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: Lazamataz

We need an Obama video set to Benny Hill. LMAO,,


34 posted on 12/14/2011 1:40:31 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: DesertRhino
We need an Obama video set to Benny Hill. LMAO,

Axe, and you shall recieve.

35 posted on 12/14/2011 1:49:35 PM PST by Lazamataz (That's all.)
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To: cherry

Oh, I would never deny there are government secrets and plenty of skullduggery and I enjoy finding out about them. Some time I find something outrageously stupid and have to bust out laughing.

About the only things I get angry about are the big issues which most people (except around here) just ignore.


36 posted on 12/14/2011 1:50:20 PM PST by arrogantsob (Obama must Go.)
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To: Pappy Smear
along with Best Buy

Well, I'm boycotting Best Buy, because they're promoting people being mean to Santa. Especially that lady in the commercial who glares menacingly at Santa while drinking his milk and eating his cookies! It's just not right!

Mark

37 posted on 12/14/2011 2:12:14 PM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: GreenLanternCorps
Um ...

Excepting a few facts:

(a) FDR tells Admiral Richardson that even if Japan attacked WAKE, GUAM, ... the Philippines (slated to begin "statehood" path in 1946), FDR doubts the US will go to war,

(b) a certain "Blue Funnel" steamer carrying the secret British Cos (Chief of Staff) mail for Singapore is captured in the Indian Ocean in August 1940 by a German surface-raider; said minutes are translated and given to the Japanese, Japan learns that British will appease (think Burma Road) and not sent warships to be based in the Far East, it is already stretching the limits of Home Fleet; thinks about US, still a neutral, escorting convoys of war materiels in the Altantic,

(c) the Japanese know the Asiatic Fleet has as its singular (yes, just one) capital ship, a crusier,

(d) the Japanese also know that FDR sent to the Atlantic, in the Spring of 1941, about 25% of the Pacific Fleet to aid in that "undeclared war" ...

So, yes, the whole picture has many aspects.

One was that the IJN had one target; it was gathered tightly in one location. In fact a location checked via the so-called Kita Messages.

38 posted on 12/14/2011 2:14:21 PM PST by jamaksin
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To: jamaksin

a. If Japan attacks the Philippines, takes Guam, or attacks Wake Island, we are at war, period. Attacking American bases, killing American servicemen, and landing troops on our territory is not an incident, it is an overt act of war. Even the most die-hard Isolationist could not ignore that.

b. Name of ship please? Also, it is not exactly a secret that the British were stretched thin in late 1941. That is one of the reasons Japan attacked. If Britain is not at war in Europe, then a Japanese attack on Malaya and the Dutch East Indies is suicide.

c. Cruisers aren’t capital ships. The Asiatic Fleet had two cruisers assigned, USS Houston (CA-30) and USS Marblehead (CL-12), a third cruiser USS Boise (CL-47) was present near Cebu having escorted a convoy of reinforcements from the Hawaii to the Philippines and came under operational control of CinCAF. A fourth cruiser USS Pensacola (CA-24) was en route with another convoy of Army reinforcements to The Philippines on December 7th 1941..

Japan knew that the Asiatic Fleet was weak, so did we. That’s why Hart had the option to withdrawal South to the DEI when he wanted to, so he could link up with the Royal Netherlands Navy, Royal Navy and Royal Australian Navy forces to combined their efforts.

d. So did everyone else, and the Japanese knew it was only temporary. The Two-Ocean Navy Act had a lot of Destroyers for the Pacific Fleet included as part of the build-up.

FDR had no reason to set up an attack on Pearl Harbor, since Japan was clearly bent on war anyway.


39 posted on 12/14/2011 5:03:12 PM PST by GreenLanternCorps ("Barack Obama" is Swahili for "Jimmy Carter".)
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To: GreenLanternCorps
Perhaps, but just point (a) - say REUBEN JAMES in Atlantic.

Why did not FDR demand from Congress a declaration of war? Was it because Stark testifies and says US was the aggressor? Cannot have that? Just cannot have that - who attacked, where, and when, could not have any ambiguity - that "unless attacked" wordsmithing.

Name of the ship - AUTOMEDON. See Chapman's The Price of Admiralty. The German office Wenneker did the translation; the Japanese awarded him a highly-prized sword.

Another oddity from Hart's world - those three goats of Kemp Tolley. A direct order for FDR himself, whose purpose was? Recall the Dutch rang the bell, FDR's having committed to armed support to colonial powers Britain and Dutch, which Congress knew not, ... looking for an incident.

Another oddity, ye olde gunboat Panay, circa 1937 - no declaration of war there? Why was that?

40 posted on 12/15/2011 1:50:28 AM PST by jamaksin
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