Skip to comments.Jon Huntsman staff creates a hit piece about Huntsman & claims Ron Paul did it!
Posted on 01/07/2012 10:26:34 AM PST by Leader_Of_The _Conservatives
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You said Ron Paul is a disgrace, right? I misunderstood
He worked for Obama nuff sed
I don’t care much about Huntsman or Paul, but the link shows the next news story about Santorum’s wife having an abortion in 1996??? Has this been posted or confirmed?
Huntsman and Paul camps need to grow up.
Sorry this blogger doesn’t provide any proof of this blame everyone else Paul tactic.
James Taranto wrote on this subject yesterday and rips the story apart:
Just like Paul had nothing to do with the racist literature he published in the 80’s and 90’s. Riiiiight.
Damning, if true.
I e-mailed a Right to life org. Specifically asking about this issue.
I received an answer back detailing exactly what happen and it was NOT an abortion. Just tragic death of a child minutes after he was born.
Paul v. Huntsman?
Nobody is credible in that fight.
IMO, it belongs in "bloggers" forum, -IF- it belongs on FR at all. The generally worthless "Examiner" blog is filled with crap pop-ups and most of the articles posted there do not warrant our attention. The few that are worthwhile are buried under the crap pop-ups.
IMO, there's much better -- and safer -- reading elsewhere. Don't waste your time on the Examiner.
That must be your computer - there are no pop ups on FR.
What kind of popups? I haven’t seen any. You might have picked up some spyware/malware. I finally decided to just rely on Microsoft’s Security Essentials and firewall and haven’t had any issues. Was using different Antivirus/Firewall/Spyware software, but decided to go for a simple package about 6 months ago and haven’t had any issues. I still practice safe browsing habits because even a good defense can be overridden by the operator.
maybe all those insulting Paul over the ad would like apologize on this thread?
Talk about wanting a pity party. Sad if true.
I didn’t say Paul was a kook.
I know all about Ron Paul.
Thanks for the link. When I got down to the part that Alan Colmes had an opinion, I completely forgave the Santorums for their tragedy.
This Public Foum proves how easy it is to make things anonymously online and act as if it was someone else.
In case the link ends up not working, I have pictures. Check out the slideshow!
"Its just your computers cache. I deleted it."
Yeah, just ignore it...
Also, The End Run states:
If you thought it would be impossible for Jon Huntsman and the Establishment media to stoop any lower than they already have in their attempts to marginalize and discredit Ron Paul, you thought wrong. Just last week, Huntsmans campaign released a tacky, glib Twilight Zone attack ad in a desperate bid to steal Ron Paul voters, in the words of Infowars.coms Paul Joseph Watson.
Now, just days later, a ridiculous, pathetic joke of a video has been posted to YouTube entitled John Huntsmans Values. The one minute video, which was posted two days ago (Jan 4), features clips Huntsman speaking Mandarin, images of him with his adopted Chinese and Indian daughters, and Photoshopped images mixing Huntsmans likeness with that of Mao Zedong. (Huntsman was formerly a U.S. Ambassador to China.) The video and images are interspersed with asinine captions questioning Huntsmans faith and American Values, referencing his adopted daughters, and calling him The Manchurian Candidate.
An idiotic video if ever there was one, and one that would normally get virtually no attention except by people wanting to marvel at the stupidy.
Now for the rub: The concluding caption is American Values And Liberty Vote Ron Paul. Starting to smell the stink yet?
The video was uploaded by a user called NHLiberty4Paul on Wednesday, January 4. A quick look at the users channel page (archived here as a backup) shows that the account was created the exactly same day that the video was uploaded. This brand new, anonymous user has, of course, zero other uploads.
Furthermore, according to the publicly-viewable stats provided by YouTube, the very first place this video was posted was Jon Huntsmans campaign website, Jon2012.com. This was done on January 4, the very day the video was uploaded to YouTube, and before the video had received any traffic from other sites.
Huntsmans people then immediately came out condemning the video and calling on Ron Paul to disavow it, as though he had anything to do with it or even knew about it. An article published on the website of the Salt Lake Tribute on January 5, the day after it was posted, reads:
Huntsman to Paul: Disavow manchurian candidate ad with Chinese daughter
Jon Huntsmans campaign is asking Rep. Ron Paul to disavow a YouTube spot posted by a supporter that questions whether the former Utah governor is loyal to the United States or China and features shots of his adopted Chinese daughter, Gracie Mei, and an image of Huntsman superimposed wearing a Communist uniform.
The ad is offensive and the Paul campaign and their supporters should condemn it, Huntsman spokesman Tim Miller said Thursday night after the clip began circulating.
The same day, the video was posted to the front page of RedState.com, where smear artist Leon H. Wolf used it as an excuse to attack Ron Paul and his supporters. With absolutely no proof and zero skepticism regarding who created the video, Wolf tells his readers that this video was created by Ron Paul supporters and provides yet more evidence that they are mostly liberal Democrats who are mad that Obama has governed too far to the right. Clearly Pauls supporters are smarting a bit from finishing well behind a guy with no money and no campaign organization in Iowa, which was their one and only chance to win a state, and are letting their true colors show, he added.
It was also posted to Breitbart.tv on January 5th, where, again, with zero proof or skepticism, it was attributed it to an independent group supporting Ron Pauls candidacy, and was said to illustrate some of the more fervent energy on behalf of the candidate. They later added:
UPDATE: Weve received suggestions from some readers that this video was created to troll Ron Paul supporters and make them look bad. It appears that the YouTube account was created just one day ago. There is no way to know for sure whether this was created sincerely on behalf of Dr. Paul or as a dirty trick against his followers. As always, we will let our readers decide.
Huntsman himself foreshadowed an upcoming attack on Ron Paul in a recent interview on CNN. Referring to a recent tweet by a Ron Paul staffer poking fun at his poor showing in Iowa, Huntsman and Piers Morgan laughed through the following exchange:
HUNTSMAN: Just tell Dr. Paul that I owe him a tweet in return, and he should be he should be expecting one some time soon.
MORGAN: I think you should do what Mitt Romney does and get the dirty work done by somebody else. Perhaps in your case your daughters could unleash themselves on Twitter on him. I think that might be a better way of doing it. Keep your hands out of it.
HUNTSMAN: Theyve got plenty theyve got plenty up their sleeves Piers, and you might be surprised at what they release in the next few days.
MORGAN: No, Im hearing Im hearing noises of more stuff coming. I cant wait.
Despite all of this evidence that this is a false flag-style dirty trick set up by OPPONENTS of Paul with the complicity or even at the direction of the Huntsman campaign, the corporate media is now running with this story and attributing the video to Paul supporters, and in some cases even the actual Ron Paul campaign itself, while allowing Huntsman to play the victim. Examples:
Huntsman objects to ad by Paul backers featuring adopted daughtersWashington Post/AP, Jan 6
Huntsman outraged at ad targeting adopted daughters Reuters, Jan 6
Republican presidential hopeful Jon Huntsman and members of his family expressed outrage on Friday at an advertisement targeted at his adopted daughters by a group supporting rival Ron Paul.
Pro-Ron Paul ad mocks Jon Huntsmans adopted Chinese daughter San Fransisco Chronicle, Jan 6
Jon Hunstman denounces ad showcasing his adopted daughters Guardian, Jan 6
Ad posted to YouTube by pro-Ron Paul group labels Huntsman as un-American for adopting girls from China and India
Huntsman Slams Web Video Featuring Adopted Daughters Fox News, Jan 6
Republican presidential candidate Jon Huntsman slammed a group purportedly backing Ron Paul after it released a Web video that included footage of Huntsmans adopted daughters and questioned whether he represented American values.
Ron Pauls Negative Ad Blitz The Atlantic Wire, Jan 6
Cindy McCain, whose husband, Senator John McCain, just endorsed Mitt Romney yesterday, jumps in on the action, acting as though this video was posted by Ron Pauls campaign, tweeting: I deeply resent the video made using the adopted daughters of @johnhuntsman. @ronpaul shame on you. Fox News and ABC make this tweet headline news.
The Paul campaign has, of course, already explained this they had nothing to do with this video, nor do they support it at all.
Pauls New Hampshire spokeswoman, Kate Schackai: The video was utterly distasteful and no one who actually supports Dr. Pauls principles would have made it
Pauls campaign chairman, Jesse Benton: The video is disgusting [whoever] put that up should remove it immediately.
Nevertheless, CNNs John King right after attempting to link Paul to racists and anti-Semites felt the need to show this video to millions on national TV, with captions calling it a political ad. Paul, of course, denounced the video, and pointed out the absurdity of asking him to answer for it. He didnt even seem to have seen it yet. (The relevant section starts around the 6:40 mark, but I recommend watching the full video.)
(John Kings wife, CNN journalist Dana Bash, recently let it slip that she is personally worried about Ron Pauls campaign.)
Meanwhile, this story has generated more positive press for Huntsman than money could buy. Endearing images of him with his adopted daughters are all over the media, along with quotes of him explaining how he heroically saved them from a bleak fate.
Furthermore, one of Huntsmans (biological) daughters the ones who just days ago he hinted had plenty up their sleeve and that you might be surprised at what they release in the next few days has already gone on national TV denouncing the video as vile and promoting Huntsman as a family man.
This is a priceless Jon Huntsman campaign ad, running in every newspaper and on every TV screen nationwide, for free. Cui Bono?
UPDATE #1: Some anonymous person (AN APPARENT SANTORUM SUPPORTER!) has now created the YouTube account NH4Santorum and uploaded the same video there, calling on viewers to vote for Santorum. NH4Romney has also appeared (OBVIOUSLY CREATED BY A ROMNEY SUPPORTER!). It too features the China Jon ad and calling on viewers to vote for Mitt Romney. Will the media now ask these candidates to disown the video, or will they suddenly be perfectly capable of seeing how ridiculous that is? The answer is obvious.
UPDATE #2: A couple months ago, Huntsmans daughters made a viral video spoofing Herman Cains smoking ad:
Here is a Washington Post headline from a month later (Dec 1:( John Huntsmans strange viral video strategy. The article begins, In their latest video, three daughters of former Utah governor Jon Huntsman rap insults about the rest of the GOP presidential field to the tune of Justin Timberlakes SexyBack.
UPDATE #3: A reader has e-mailed me to point out that the offending Jon Huntsmans Values video was tagged jon2012girls by whoever operates the NHLiberty4Paul account.
UPDATE #4: Some people are going wild over a thread on a web forum which purports to be an exchange between Huntsman campaign insiders, one of whom supposedly got a call from the big man himself to thank him/her personally for creating the China Jon video. The thread is an obvious fake/parody. There were only TWO TOTAL THREADS in the entire Jon Huntsman Forum (on this random website which says at the top Be Anonymous Registration is not required to post), including the thread in question. The other thread was entitled Great plan to get rid of ron paul supporters FOREVER!. It reads: Even when ron paul loses big time, his supporters will still be a thorn in the side of the status quo. We need to get rid of these people forever. I propose that after Huntsman is elected, he nukes iran, which will quickly result in WW3. At this time we can force a military draft, ship all them ron paul hippies to the middle east and use them as cannon fodder. JUST LOOK AT THESE NUTS IN THE PICTURE!!! THEY ARE A DANGER TO AMERICAS FREEDOMS . Do people really think this is how Huntsman supporters talk? Its obvious satire. These anonymous internet users are not real Huntsman campaign insiders, just like the creator of the China Jon video is not a real Ron Paul supporter.
UPDATE #5: On Friday, Huntsmans daughters retweeted Cindy McCain saying @ronpaul shame on you to their 20,000+ followers via their Jon2012girls Twitter account. Do you think theyre incapable of understanding that Ron Paul is not responsible for anonymously-created internet videos?
Update - Examiner.com has decided this story is not "newsworthy"... I disagree!
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Although no one will say so, it does look to be true. It was a “life of the mother” circumstance as I understand it. Technically, an “abortion”. Should this be part of a campaign? NO! A vast majority of Americans would agree with abortion in this case. Can you be adamantly “Pro Life” if your wife had such an abortion? ABSOLUTELY YES.
I do believe in the “life of the mother” exception. Rape or incest is no reason to abort a healthy baby from a healthy mother.
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How can you say that?
They induced labor, the baby was born alive and died two hours later. Inducing labor is very common. I do not see how you can call that an abortion.
What the hell is Huntsman even doing in the race? Far less credibility and support than Bachmann. Frankly, he gives me the creeps.
Paul's insane foreign policy stance pretty much discredits him. The only thing he can restore is Obama's presidency.
What the hell is Huntsman even doing in the race? Far less credibility and support than Bachmann. Frankly, he gives me the creeps.
Or, put another way, perhaps the Paul bots should ask themselves why everyone instantly believed they would stoop to this level?
Folks that would use the lie are not much better then the liar.
Yep, that too.
Hey, I have no dog in this fight. I was just making a hypothetical comment - that the Huntsman folks would do this speaks volumes about total lack of character on their part. I do not support him at all.
Paul supporters would be well advised to ask themselves why it was so believable though.
Again, does not concern me either way about either campaign. Just making observations.
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The baby was stillborn if I recall correctly. Had nothing to do with abortion. The Left, the Libs are the most hateful, cruel, downright inhumane life forms on Earth that think nothing of lying about such events without one iota of remorse.
You probably picked up something nasty from visiting the Examiner blog.
You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.
A visit to the Examiner blog should be followed by a visit to the syphilis clinic.
There do happen to be some Ron Paul supporters posting here. And I happen to be one of them. Do you have any problems or concerns with that? If so, I suggest taking them up with the owner of this website.
If you’re talking about the baby that died 2 hours after birth, that was not an abortion. Some leftists made some truly damnable statements about Santorum over this and even Alan Colmes was forced to issue a non-apology apology.
As for Paul and Huntsman, they deserve each other, but Republicans haven’t done anything to deserve them. They’re both RAT plants.
I’m not ready to blame Huntsman for this, no telling who did it, I just think it is a new low. And for the MSM to pick it up and run with it is despicable. But the establishments got 2 number one enemies, Newt first cause they see him the greater threat, next Paul as he seems to be gaining a little traction.
Interesting little tidbit. Just when you thought the campaigns couldn’t sink any lower, another snake comes slithering out of the grass.
You think folks ought to cry to Jim when they spot a Paultard?
That's pretty weak. I prefer pointing and laughing.
If you're referring to the execrable Ron Paul which it appears you are he discredits himself.
10-4 - we agree on most of this issue then. Someone with Huntsman must be complicit - and I agree that Newt and Paul scare the cr-p out of the establishment (for different reasons.)
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