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Confederate submarine finally revealed after being buried at sea for 150 years
UK Daily Mail ^ | January 13, 2012 | Staff

Posted on 01/13/2012 6:49:45 AM PST by C19fan

The world got an unobstructed view of the Confederate submarine H.L. Hunley for the first time since the Civil War on Thursday as a massive steel truss that had surrounded the first sub in history to sink an enemy warship was finally removed. The truss weighing more than 8 tons had shrouded the sub since it was raised off the coast of South Carolina almost a dozen years ago.

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TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: civilwar; civilwarsub; civilwarsubmarine; csshunley; godsgravesglyphs; hunley; submarine
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What a great way to honor the 150th anniversary of Civil War.
1 posted on 01/13/2012 6:49:53 AM PST by C19fan
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To: C19fan

Wow.

Looks like a modern sub.


2 posted on 01/13/2012 6:53:14 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (ROMNEY / ALINSKY 2012 (sarcasm))
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To: C19fan

Can’t wait for the Lincoln Coven to show up and trash this thread.


3 posted on 01/13/2012 6:53:14 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: nnn0jeh

Ping


4 posted on 01/13/2012 6:55:57 AM PST by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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5 posted on 01/13/2012 6:57:11 AM PST by deoetdoctrinae (Gun-Free zones are playgrounds for felons)
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To: C19fan

6 posted on 01/13/2012 6:58:08 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: C19fan; LS
Fascinating article. Thx for the thread!

LS, if you get a chance, check out the comment section after the article. A poster mentions a certain video we've been discussing.

7 posted on 01/13/2012 6:59:40 AM PST by mewzilla (I'll vote for the first guy who promises to mail in his SOTU addresses.)
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To: mewzilla

I will, but meanwhile, did you ever hear the joke, “They raised the “Hunley” and inside they found “RE-ELECT STROM THURMOND” bumperstickers?


8 posted on 01/13/2012 7:00:55 AM PST by LS
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To: C19fan
They raised the sub, eh? I guess "THE CONFEDERESEH WILL RISE AGAIN, SUH!"


9 posted on 01/13/2012 7:01:08 AM PST by ketelone
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

It will be interesting to compare the real Hunley submersible with the reconstructed replicas (IIRC, one is in Columbia, the other in Charleston).

Does anyone notice that the rudder appears to be missing from the original sub?


10 posted on 01/13/2012 7:01:34 AM PST by elcid1970 ("Deport all Muslims. Nuke Mecca now. Death to Islam means freedom for all mankind.")
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

It will be interesting to compare the real Hunley submersible with the reconstructed replicas (IIRC, one is in Columbia, the other in Charleston).

Does anyone notice that the rudder appears to be missing from the original sub?


11 posted on 01/13/2012 7:01:34 AM PST by elcid1970 ("Deport all Muslims. Nuke Mecca now. Death to Islam means freedom for all mankind.")
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To: C19fan
There are theories the sub could have been damaged by fire from the Housatonic or the crew was knocked out from the concussion from the blast. Another theory is the sub was struck by another Union vessel coming to help the Housatonic.

Barry Soetoro blamed it on George Bush.

12 posted on 01/13/2012 7:02:22 AM PST by immadashell
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To: LS
I was expecting something looking like the USS Monitor.



13 posted on 01/13/2012 7:07:51 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (ROMNEY / ALINSKY 2012 (sarcasm))
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To: LS
LOL! Hadn't heard that one :-)

Get serious for a moment, though, interesting juxtaposition of the treatment of war dead.

14 posted on 01/13/2012 7:09:39 AM PST by mewzilla (I'll vote for the first guy who promises to mail in his SOTU addresses.)
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To: C19fan

I am surprised they did not find steel balls at the bottom of that sub, because that is what it took to get into that coffin. Steel balls.

By the way I wish they had removed that PVC pipe from the interior before they took the pictures.


15 posted on 01/13/2012 7:11:31 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

The monitor was not a submarine. It was just a boat that did not have much freeboard.


16 posted on 01/13/2012 7:13:57 AM PST by TalonDJ
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To: TalonDJ

Well duh - how could it have any Free Board at all when it would be generations before any member of Lynyrd Skynyrd was even born?


17 posted on 01/13/2012 7:16:31 AM PST by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: TalonDJ

It’s fascinating that American (both sides of the M/D line) technology and manufacturing was that innovative, that long ago.

Let’s stop sending those abilities to other countries.

Make America that great. Again.


18 posted on 01/13/2012 7:18:18 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (ROMNEY / ALINSKY 2012 (sarcasm))
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Think about the regulatory agencies that did not exist at that time. Also, consider the sources of government revenue at the time. Moreover, there weren’t millions of folks on welfare in those days.


19 posted on 01/13/2012 7:24:11 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

The USS Monitor must have been more formidable than most drawings depict it. I had a relative captured aboard the confederate ram CSS Atlanta (CSS Virginia class ironclad) as it was driven into the shallows and then pounded into surrender by the USS Weehawken and USS Nahant (both Monitor class ironclads.


20 posted on 01/13/2012 7:25:53 AM PST by BuffaloJack (Defeat Obama. End Obama's War On Freedom.)
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To: C19fan

This is fascinating, thanks for the post. It is interesting how rapidly military technology started to evolve starting from that time to the present.


21 posted on 01/13/2012 7:29:49 AM PST by dog breath
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To: elcid1970
It will be interesting to compare the real Hunley submersible with the reconstructed replicas (IIRC, one is in Columbia, the other in Charleston).

I've been to see the Hunley twice. Once about a year after they recovered it, then again last year (right after they'd righted it - it had been set at about a 45 degree "roll" angle since recovery).

The differences between it and the Charleston replica are significant. As are the differences between it and the various models used in the making of "They Hunley" movie. They've found all sorts of fascinating innovations, such as much better hydrodynamics (particularly in the streamlined and concave bow area) and an flywheel running around the inner hull that was used as a "power assist" to the guys turning the crank.

Couple added notes. First, although it's nice to see the Hunley out of the truss, in the two visits I made I never really found it to be all that obstructive. Second, any visit to the Hunley should be accompanied by a visit to Magnolia Cemetery right down the road. That's where all three crews lost on the sub are buried. The Cemetery is fascinating in its own right - very old, very Southern. Not some place I'd want to be after dark (and I've walked places like Devil's Den and the Slaughter Pen at Gettysburg at night).
22 posted on 01/13/2012 7:30:39 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: BuffaloJack

The low freeboard meant it was a small target compared to the casemate design utilized by the CSA. Also, the turret contained 2 huge guns if I remember right 10 or 11 inchers. At Hampton Roads the Monitor was quicker and more agile than the CSA Virginia.


23 posted on 01/13/2012 7:31:46 AM PST by C19fan
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To: central_va

Where’s the screen-door and porch?

Americans living near to Canada have always told me that Confederate subs sank because of these features - not true?


24 posted on 01/13/2012 7:33:24 AM PST by headsonpikes (Mass murder and cannibalism are the twin sacraments of socialism - "Who-whom?"-Lenin)
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To: dog breath

Think about just about 50 years before Nelson was fighting in sailing ships that say Sir Francis Drake would of recognized.


25 posted on 01/13/2012 7:33:45 AM PST by C19fan
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To: headsonpikes
Americans living near to Canada

You mean jerks? Easier to say than "Americans living near to Canada".

26 posted on 01/13/2012 7:37:26 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: headsonpikes

Well the missing sections of hull probably served the same purpose. But I understand they needed the metal for the ground troops...


27 posted on 01/13/2012 7:40:47 AM PST by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: central_va

Lincoln was a GOD and the South was sadly mistaken in all it did. Why you want to embrace those extra-constitutional monkeys defies imagination. I am so glad that untold misery was visited on the South, for they were truly evil in every way. I HATE THE CONFEDERACY and all it stands for and if you love them THEN I HATE YOU!


28 posted on 01/13/2012 7:41:05 AM PST by Lazamataz (Every single decision Obama makes is to harm America.)
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To: central_va

Robert E. Lee was a GOD and the North was sadly mistaken in all it did. Why you want to embrace those extra-constitutional monkeys defies imagination. I am so glad that untold misery was visited on the North, for they were truly evil in every way. I HATE THE UNION and all it stands for and if you love them THEN I HATE YOU!


29 posted on 01/13/2012 7:41:05 AM PST by Lazamataz (Every single decision Obama makes is to harm America.)
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To: tanknetter

Since one of my ancestors served with Sherman on his famous march I definitely should stay out of most old Southern cemeteries at night.


30 posted on 01/13/2012 7:42:16 AM PST by dog breath
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To: BuffaloJack

The Monitor was way ahead of its time, very innovative. The combination of the armored turret and the low design made it superior to the Virginia ironclads in a lot of ways. Growing up in Virginia, we heard a lot about the “Monitor-Merrimac” fight...generally portrayed as that “we” fought the Monitor to a draw, even though the Virginia proved unable to break the Union blockade of Hampton Roads.

}:-)4


31 posted on 01/13/2012 7:43:25 AM PST by Moose4 ("Oderint dum metuant" -- "Let them hate, as long as they fear." (Lucius Accius, c. 130 BC))
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To: Lazamataz

LOL - great answer to the invitation!


32 posted on 01/13/2012 7:44:16 AM PST by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: Lazamataz

Slow morning? To cold to go out for a walk? So you just had to start sumpin’ didncha?


33 posted on 01/13/2012 7:44:56 AM PST by Pan_Yan
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To: TalonDJ
The monitor was not a submarine. It was just a boat that did not have much freeboard.

FREE BOARD!!!1!!

34 posted on 01/13/2012 7:45:22 AM PST by Lazamataz (Every single decision Obama makes is to harm America.)
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To: Lazamataz

To: Admin Mods:

Mitt Romney seems to have hacked Laz’s account.


35 posted on 01/13/2012 7:45:22 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (ROMNEY / ALINSKY 2012 (sarcasm))
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To: C19fan
Of course, there was a snide, uniformed comment:
it's so cute to see the American War Machine in its infancy.

Never mind that the European "war machine" was well established...
36 posted on 01/13/2012 7:46:55 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: C19fan
Hard to imagine eight men working in that sub.
37 posted on 01/13/2012 7:47:55 AM PST by ladyvet ( I would rather have Incitatus then the asses that are in congress today.)
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To: tanknetter

That was some movie. Lt. Dixon who was never married was haunted by the ghost of his “wife.” His sweetheart, Queenie Bennett, died in 1883.


38 posted on 01/13/2012 7:48:43 AM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (This space for rant.)
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To: C19fan

Holy moly! I didn’t realize that they mounted 10 or 11 inch guns on it. It makes more sense now why CSS Atlanta surrender after 5 well placed hits by USS Weehawken.
My great great uncle who was captured was a corporal in the CS Marine Corp and sat out the rest of the war in the federal prison at Elmira, NY.


39 posted on 01/13/2012 7:48:49 AM PST by BuffaloJack (Defeat Obama. End Obama's War On Freedom.)
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To: Pan_Yan
Slow morning? To cold to go out for a walk?


Cold morning for a walk, yaa.

So you just had to start sumpin’ didncha?


40 posted on 01/13/2012 7:50:17 AM PST by Lazamataz (Every single decision Obama makes is to harm America.)
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(a belated /s)

I was not series of course, just joshing about the two opposing opinions.

:D


41 posted on 01/13/2012 7:50:37 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (ROMNEY / ALINSKY 2012 (sarcasm))
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

The Monitor is being restored. Saw the turret in a cleaning tank about 1.5 years back.


42 posted on 01/13/2012 7:50:37 AM PST by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I [absolutely/questionably] [deny/admit] that [Mitt Romney/John McCain] [have/have not] [hacked/protected] Lazamataz’s account.


43 posted on 01/13/2012 7:52:31 AM PST by Lazamataz (Every single decision Obama makes is to harm America.)
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To: LS

OK, that’s funny stuff right there! LOL!


44 posted on 01/13/2012 7:52:34 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: dog breath

Wounds still run deep as Sherman’s troops destroyed Columbia South Carolina and they still haven’t rebuilt it to this day. One has to drive through there to see the scope of the damage.


45 posted on 01/13/2012 7:54:12 AM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (This space for rant.)
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To: tanknetter

Why wouldn’t you want to be there after dark? Please don’t tell me you believe in ghosts...


46 posted on 01/13/2012 7:57:23 AM PST by stormer
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To: C19fan

Well, the fact that the USS Monitor was about 100 feet shorter than the CSS Virginia did help in the manoeuverability department.


47 posted on 01/13/2012 8:03:05 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: BuffaloJack
The Weehawken was a Passic class Monitor. Her armament included a 15" smoothbore. She was much more powerful than the original Monitor.

Two against one is what probably told the tale, though.

48 posted on 01/13/2012 8:05:20 AM PST by jboot
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To: stormer
Why wouldn’t you want to be there after dark? Please don’t tell me you believe in ghosts...

The creepy factor in that place was exceedingly high.
49 posted on 01/13/2012 8:06:41 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: BuffaloJack
Holy moly! I didn’t realize that they mounted 10 or 11 inch guns on it. It makes more sense now why CSS Atlanta surrender after 5 well placed hits by USS Weehawken.

During the battle with CSS Virginia, Monitor was using reduced charges due to that bad Dahlgren explosion years before. Had she been using full charges, she would have eaten the Virginia alive.
50 posted on 01/13/2012 8:09:20 AM PST by tanknetter
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