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Can Full-Metal Jousting Become the Next Ultimate Fighting Championship?
The Atlantic ^ | 2/13/12 | Shane Adams

Posted on 02/13/2012 1:36:58 PM PST by do the dhue

If chivalry, as the common saying goes, is dead, someone forgot to tell Shane Adams—the host of History's new original reality series, Full Metal Jousting, which aims to resurrect the medieval and renaissance competition as a legitimate sport over 500 years after its heyday. Which isn't to say that things don't get gritty—"Do not stick out your tongue. You will bite it off," Adams advises the series' would-be knights in last night's premiere episode. Full Metal Jousting, which premiered last night, takes 16 amateur competitors and trains them in competitive full-contact jousting, with a $100,000 prize to be awarded to the last man standing. It's hard to imagine the show successfully capturing the intensity of "history's first extreme sport" without the expertise offered by Adams, a former president of the World Championship Jousting Association and holder of 17 international jousting titles who remains one of the sport's most respected and celebrated competitors. As Full Metal Jousting prepared for its television debut, The Atlantic interviewed Adams about wooden lances, war horses, and what it takes for a normal person to become an expert jouster. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Outdoors; Sports; TV/Movies
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1 posted on 02/13/2012 1:37:03 PM PST by do the dhue
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To: do the dhue
I have never been to a Renascence fair or anything like that, but I watched this on History Channel last night and I must say that I enjoyed it.

What about you? did you see it? If so, did you enjoy it?

2 posted on 02/13/2012 1:39:08 PM PST by do the dhue (WARNING: this site is not liable for the things I say)
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To: do the dhue

Now there is something I’d like to try!


3 posted on 02/13/2012 1:41:08 PM PST by NakedRampage (Puttin' the "stud" in Bible study)
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To: do the dhue

It won’t be 1/100 of the UFC.


4 posted on 02/13/2012 1:41:29 PM PST by EEGator
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To: NakedRampage

5 posted on 02/13/2012 1:43:20 PM PST by do the dhue (WARNING: this site is not liable for the things I say)
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To: do the dhue

I watched it too - loved it! Definitely not a sport for the faint of heart.


6 posted on 02/13/2012 1:48:46 PM PST by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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To: NakedRampage

7 posted on 02/13/2012 1:51:03 PM PST by do the dhue (WARNING: this site is not liable for the things I say)
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To: MissMagnolia

I thought the Marine would win, but black came back in the end. Good show!
8 posted on 02/13/2012 1:54:28 PM PST by do the dhue (WARNING: this site is not liable for the things I say)
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To: do the dhue
It used to be the #1 spectator sport in Europe.

Henry the Young King and John the Marshall were famously good jousters.

Like car racing - they raced for “pink slips”. The winner won the losers horse and armor - or the monetary equivalent.

Jousting is also the State Sport of Maryland.

The Maryland Renn Fair has, as one might expect, some excellent jousting!

9 posted on 02/13/2012 1:56:42 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: allmendream

Did you see the show? I think it could be a real sport. You gotta be a bad apple to do it though!


10 posted on 02/13/2012 2:02:02 PM PST by do the dhue (WARNING: this site is not liable for the things I say)
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To: EEGator

Why do you think that Gator?


11 posted on 02/13/2012 2:03:48 PM PST by do the dhue (WARNING: this site is not liable for the things I say)
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To: do the dhue
What about you? did you see it? If so, did you enjoy it?

Saw it at the local Renfest. To me it had the same feel as the Kentucky Derby, lots of warm up which bored me, followed by moments of excitement. I don't know if the jousters were doing it for real or if they had already decided who was going down in that bout. I'm betting the second just because even a blunt lance can be pretty dangerous if it hits the knight oddly or he falls when not planning for it.

Another History Channel show about medieval combat showed that the knights in armor were pretty darn nimble and were able to roll over and spring to their feet pretty quickly in armor. I had expected them to be like turtles on their backs, but I guess with years of training and hundreds of years of making armor taught them how to make it heavy enough to be protective but still light and flexible enough not to be too great of hindrance.

12 posted on 02/13/2012 2:04:17 PM PST by KarlInOhio (You only have three billion heartbeats in a lifetime.How many does the government claim as its own?)
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To: KarlInOhio
The show on history channel was not like that. Must have taken the warm ups out. It seemed pretty real. Also, showed some pretty intense practice. One of the Team Leaders took a heck of hit. It took him a while to get off the ground. Also, they showed previews of upcoming shows and they will be drawing blood. It looks pretty real to me. I don't want to see folks bleed, but I think it could make it as a sport. I had more fun watching this then I do watching golf.
13 posted on 02/13/2012 2:13:32 PM PST by do the dhue (WARNING: this site is not liable for the things I say)
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To: do the dhue
I didn't see the TV show.

But I would no doubt have enjoyed it.

I predict it will not approach the popularity of UFC.

People still engage in fisticuffs and wrestling - and men are interested in what techniques work well, and watching two guys beat the snot out of each other.

Back when Jousting was the #1 spectator sport - a guy in armor on an armored horse with a lance was the pinnacle of military technology - and being adept at it was the requirement of every “gentleman”.

But as far as a niche program - DAMN am I in that niche!!!!

14 posted on 02/13/2012 2:15:45 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: do the dhue

It was fun to watch and interesting in its variance from theatrical jousting presentations. Unlike medieval armor, this stuff weighs more and is made for at least some safety so it is not always as maneuverable as some of the traditional armor.

This is set up to be a full contact, blows given and taken event. A lot of times the personalities (or lack of personality) with all of their bluster is as entertaining as the actual joust.

I think as they develop through the weeks you will see more technique and strategy than was evident in the first week where they were all pretty much newbies.


15 posted on 02/13/2012 2:17:54 PM PST by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: do the dhue
Maybe we can bring back Roman gladiatorial games, a la Mack Reynolds in Sweet Dreams, Sweet Princes and numerous other stories.
16 posted on 02/13/2012 2:23:02 PM PST by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man. Never trust anyone who hasn't been punched in the face)
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To: RJS1950

I am glad you liked it.

I think you are right about the personalities. We may even see some egos clash.


17 posted on 02/13/2012 2:33:16 PM PST by do the dhue (WARNING: this site is not liable for the things I say)
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To: allmendream

I am sure you would have!


18 posted on 02/13/2012 2:34:02 PM PST by do the dhue (WARNING: this site is not liable for the things I say)
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To: do the dhue
Next week Deer Hunter games!


Can you see the bottom of the pit yet?

19 posted on 02/13/2012 2:35:45 PM PST by rawcatslyentist (BO Stinks!)
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To: chesley
I don't know why your post reminds me of this:

20 posted on 02/13/2012 2:37:23 PM PST by do the dhue (WARNING: this site is not liable for the things I say)
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To: do the dhue
"I have never been to a Renascence fair or anything like that..."

Depending on where you're at in the states, I can highly recommend the Louisiana Renaissance Festival. It runs every weekend starting in November through the second weekend of December. Gotta love the logo with the alligator as dragon...


21 posted on 02/13/2012 2:41:27 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Joe 6-pack

If they have jousting, I would go.


22 posted on 02/13/2012 2:43:29 PM PST by do the dhue (WARNING: this site is not liable for the things I say)
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To: chesley
Roman gladiatorial games

Tonight's Event:

Christians vs. Lions


23 posted on 02/13/2012 2:46:23 PM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class!)
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To: do the dhue
As the televised "extreme sports" are getting more viewership, there will always be the need for them to become more "extreme" in order to hold the audience.

I see a major problem with this in that what will be the major outcome of all this "extreme" sports?

Running Man?

24 posted on 02/13/2012 2:47:17 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (The only solution to this primary is a shoot out! Last person standing picks the candidate)
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To: do the dhue

UFC has a broad appeal. It’s huge in many parts of Asia, Brazil, and the US. I think the show is cool, but won’t have the longevity or broad appeal. UFC is planning on having a PPV in Brazil in a soccer stadium to 80,000+ fans. Any guy can go to a MMA gym and train to fight, how many can joust?


25 posted on 02/13/2012 2:50:07 PM PST by EEGator
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To: do the dhue

They have pretty much every year. I don’t see any reason why they wouldn’t continue to do so.

http://www.la-renfest.com/


26 posted on 02/13/2012 2:54:14 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: do the dhue

Politicians should have to joust for votes.


27 posted on 02/13/2012 3:24:53 PM PST by manic4organic (We won. Get over it.)
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To: manic4organic
Agreed. Only for politicians, we don't allow the use of armor. Their egos are enough to fend off lances — aren't they?

Er . . . sorry, Mr. Waxman, that lance was just naturally attracted by your huge nostril; sorry it's sticking out the back of your head.

28 posted on 02/13/2012 4:05:39 PM PST by MasterGunner01 (11)
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To: do the dhue
I think not, however I do believe the next step in the evolution of MMA should be tag teams and battle royals.
29 posted on 02/13/2012 4:22:26 PM PST by Manic_Episode (Politics is fake. I think it's owned by Vince Mcmahon)
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To: allmendream

What killed the sport the last time was when King Henry II of France was killed when pieces of broken lance went through his visor eyehole and wound up in his brain.


30 posted on 02/13/2012 5:01:21 PM PST by Cheburashka (If life hands you lemons, government regulations will prevent you from making lemonade.)
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To: do the dhue

Personally I want to see violent criminals fight in a thunderdome setting. Last one alive is ‘told they will be ‘set free’ at the end - the twist being a shot to the head.


31 posted on 02/13/2012 5:52:58 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: do the dhue

Bragging going on here.. My Son in Law is Josh Knowles AKA the black knight from last night. He’s been working at the Medieval times castle here in Myrtle Beach for many years. He usually plays the bad guy knight.
He has been very tight lipped about the outcome of the show. We didn’t know he was gonna do the first dual even. From what I saw last night of his competition he is the favorite. He is a monster of a man physically, 6’ 4” and 270ish, but a teddy bear inside. He’s a super dad to our precious grand daughter.


32 posted on 02/13/2012 5:53:54 PM PST by PilotDave (No, really, you just can't make this stuff up!!!)
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To: do the dhue

BTW, Huge ratings success.
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2012/02/13/full-metal-jousting-premieres-to-1-9-million-total-viewers/119714/


33 posted on 02/13/2012 5:57:52 PM PST by PilotDave (No, really, you just can't make this stuff up!!!)
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To: PilotDave

WOW thanks for your post. That is pretty cool. I hope the best for him!

And I didn’t know that it did so well in the ratings.


34 posted on 02/13/2012 7:09:53 PM PST by do the dhue (WARNING: this site is not liable for the things I say)
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To: MasterGunner01; manic4organic

LOL


35 posted on 02/13/2012 7:11:55 PM PST by do the dhue (WARNING: this site is not liable for the things I say)
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To: do the dhue

Due to medicine and a better understanding of nutrition, modern man is much larger and heavier. They need to take a good look at the armor and padding if they want to prevent unnecessary broken backs.


36 posted on 02/13/2012 7:18:10 PM PST by Grizzled Bear (No More RINOS!)
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To: allmendream

The re-airs for this week. EST. History Channel.
Monday, 11:00PM:
The Ultimate Extreme Sport TV14 V-L
Tuesday, 3:01AM:
The Ultimate Extreme Sport TV14 V-L
Thursday, 11:00PM:
The Ultimate Extreme Sport TV14 V-L
Friday, 3:01AM:
The Ultimate Extreme Sport TV14 V-L
Saturday, 11:00PM:
The Ultimate Extreme Sport TV14 V-L
Sunday, 3:01AM:
The Ultimate Extreme Sport TV14 V-L


37 posted on 02/13/2012 7:32:32 PM PST by PilotDave (No, really, you just can't make this stuff up!!!)
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To: reg45

LOL!


38 posted on 02/13/2012 7:34:50 PM PST by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man. Never trust anyone who hasn't been punched in the face)
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To: do the dhue

Hurt all the people that you want, but if you hurt one hair of a horse and the animal lovers will be on this stink on a hippy!!!!!


39 posted on 02/13/2012 7:40:05 PM PST by elvis-lives
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To: do the dhue

I love to watch jousting at the Renaissance Faires. It is really exciting and I hope this becomes a popular show.


40 posted on 02/14/2012 10:04:37 AM PST by buffaloguy (uab.)
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To: KarlInOhio
Another History Channel show about medieval combat showed that the knights in armor were pretty darn nimble and were able to roll over and spring to their feet pretty quickly in armor. I had expected them to be like turtles on their backs, but I guess with years of training and hundreds of years of making armor taught them how to make it heavy enough to be protective but still light and flexible enough not to be too great of hindrance.

Full armor was about 50 pounds, evenly distributed. Modern infantry are expected to run around with that amount of weight (between body armor, ammo, rifle, various odd bits).

Armor which was too heavy to fight in would have been worthless.

41 posted on 02/14/2012 10:49:37 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: elvis-lives
LOL and that is the truth. Never thought of that but it is true that peta would have a cow.
42 posted on 02/14/2012 4:41:05 PM PST by do the dhue (WARNING: this site is not liable for the things I say)
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To: PilotDave

Thanks for the update on times PilotDave!


43 posted on 02/14/2012 4:42:40 PM PST by do the dhue (WARNING: this site is not liable for the things I say)
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To: KarlInOhio; Ramius; 300winmag; IrishCatholic; lookout88; Wpin; spetznaz; Smokin' Joe; ...

Actual plate armor wasn’t as heavy as people tend to think. A fighter had to remain nimble. Running and jumping were essential. They also had a surprising freedom of movement. Pretty much full range, in a well made set (called ‘harness’) from a good armorer.

And... I’d say this calls for a sword ping!


44 posted on 02/14/2012 4:58:51 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: Ramius

Lots of youtube videos of people in replica plate armor fighting and jumping around, showing how flexible and maneuverable well-made plate armor was:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFluOX3znZw&feature=autoplay&list=PL538915C8C66B0E84&lf=plpp_video&playnext=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1S_Q3CGqZmg&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hpwn0xWro2Q&feature=related


45 posted on 02/14/2012 5:36:17 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: PapaBear3625

I really can respect what this guy is trying to do. I like that it’s not just theatrical. He’s really doing the real deal. Not for the faint of heart, indeed. People are going to get hurt. Maybe killed. Still... I say more power to ‘em. There’s too much phony stuff out there— especially in the arena of medieval combat.

I don’t think jousting is for me, but if they open up a longsword event... :-)


46 posted on 02/14/2012 5:54:35 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: KarlInOhio
"Another History Channel show about medieval combat showed that the knights in armor were pretty darn nimble and were able to roll over and spring to their feet pretty quickly in armor."

Jousting and tournament armor eventually became very specialized for the sport and was the not the same as armor for combat. You'll see some suits with heavy plate on the left side - which is great if you are tilting, but not so great in a free-for-all battle.

47 posted on 02/14/2012 6:09:14 PM PST by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: Ramius; do the dhue

"Merely a flesh wound...Come back here!"
48 posted on 02/14/2012 6:11:40 PM PST by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum)
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To: Ramius

I need to see this, the novels I’m writing feature mostly sword fighting but a few jousts....


49 posted on 02/14/2012 6:58:04 PM PST by JenB
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To: Ramius

I need to see this, the novels I’m writing feature mostly sword fighting but a few jousts....


50 posted on 02/14/2012 6:58:04 PM PST by JenB
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