Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Jimmy Carter supports same-sex ‘marriage’ as he launches his new Bible (Barf Alert)
Life Site News ^ | 3/21/2012 | Ben Johnson

Posted on 03/21/2012 10:38:14 AM PDT by Morgana

ATLANTA, GEORGIA, March 20, 2012, (LifeSiteNews.com) – Former president Jimmy Carter has been strongly identified as a “Born Again” Christian and as a liberal Democrat for nearly five decades. He is once more blending those roles as he promotes “his” latest book, his own study Bible.

The NIV Lessons from Life Bible: Personal Reflections with Jimmy Carter contains the full text of the New International Version of the Bible and the former president’s prayers, reflections, and asides.

During his book tour to promote a study of the Scriptures, Carter mentioned he supports same-sex “marriage.”

President Carter told Paul Brandeis Raushenbush, senior religion editor of The Huffington Post:

Homosexuality was well known in the ancient world, well before Christ was born and Jesus never said a word about homosexuality. In all of his teachings about multiple things – he never said that gay people should be condemned. I personally think it is very fine for gay people to be married in civil ceremonies. (Emphasis added.)

However, he said he drew the line, “maybe arbitrarily, in requiring by law that churches must marry people.”

“If a church decides not to, then government laws shouldn’t require them to,” he said, adding his own church accepts “gay members on an equal basis.”

When Raushenbush pressed him about whether he believed the Bible is God’s word, Carter answered, “the basic principles of the Bible are taught by God, but written down by human beings deprived of modern day knowledge. So there is some fallibility in the writings of the Bible. But the basic principles are applicable to my life and I don’t find any conflict among them.”

“There are many verses in the Bible that you could interpret very rigidly,” Carter said, “and that makes you ultimately into a fundamentalist.”

“Fundamentalists,” he wrote in his 2005 book Our Endangered Values, tend “to demagogue emotional issues” and “are often angry and sometimes resort to verbal or even physical abuse against those who interfere with the implementation of their agenda.” Carter applied this term to figures as divergent as the Ayatollah Khomeini and Pope John Paul II, to atheist neoconservatives and his fellow Baptists.

He contended the “mandated subservience of women by Christian fundamentalists” contributes to the Islamic practice of female genital mutilation.

Carter wrote that he exchanged harsh words with the late Pope John Paul II during a state visit over what Carter classified as the Pope’s “perpetuation of the subservience of women.” He added, “there was more harshness when we turned to the subject of ‘liberation theology’.”

The former president, who has released recordings of the Sunday School classes he teaches and written previous books about the Bible, disassociated himself from the Southern Baptist Convention in 2000. He and former President Bill Clinton attempted to realign the Baptist faith in a more liberal direction by calling for a new Baptist convention in 2008. The formation of this new Baptist body, he wrote, constituted an “historic event for the Baptists in this country and perhaps for Christianity.”

Carter, whose single term in office was marred by turbulence at home and abroad, has denounced those who disagree with his political views in strident terms.

Pro-lifers, Carter wrote, “do not extend their concern to the baby who is born.” He instead suggested the nation support contraceptive sex education, taxpayer funding of international “family planning,” and embryonic stem cell research.

In addition to nuptial vows, Carter encouraged the military to end the “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” policy in 2007, and in 2010, he told the website Big Think it was time to elect “a gay person” as president.

The new study Bible, published by Zondervan, is available from bookstores nationwide.


TOPICS: Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: bible; homosexualagenda; jimmycarter; peanut

1 posted on 03/21/2012 10:38:21 AM PDT by Morgana
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: wagglebee; little jeremiah

first Pat, now Jimmy PING!


2 posted on 03/21/2012 10:39:29 AM PDT by Morgana (I only come here to see what happens next. It normally does.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Morgana

Although I don’t personally care if gay folks get civilly hitched, the Bible seems to have Other Ideas (see Leviticus, Romans, etc.).

And if Jimmy’s “edition” of the Bible excises those prohibitions, I wonder if it also will get rid of these two verses near the end of the Revelation to John:

[18] For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
[19] And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.


3 posted on 03/21/2012 10:43:59 AM PDT by pogo101
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Morgana; metmom; Dr. Eckleburg; RnMomof7; Alex Murphy; irishtenor; HarleyD
.... Jesus never said a word about homosexuality. In all of his teachings about multiple things – he never said that gay people should be condemned.

Nor did He speak in favor of Homosexuality. The rest of Scripture is quite clear, Carter is clearly wrong.

Why would I want spiritual guidance from any pol, Dem or Republican?

4 posted on 03/21/2012 10:45:13 AM PDT by Gamecock (Celebrating 17,153 replies of dubious quality!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Morgana

As Creator of the universe, Jesus did not have to speak about marriage. He already had when created it between a man and a woman.

Also, I can’t believe Carter is an “Evangelical” when I’m on the Pope’s side against him.


5 posted on 03/21/2012 10:47:00 AM PDT by RecoveringPaulisto
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Morgana
Carter was a terrible president who continually injected religion into political campaigning. He said people should vote for him because he was a good Christian. His supporters continually spread the false narrative that Carter was a good and decent man in a difficult job.

Carter was as bad of a Christian as he was as a president. He continually lied about almost everything. Abortion increased dramatically during his presidency and he helped to promote it.

He helped to spread Communism and the oppression of Christians throughout the world. He helped put brutal dictators into power. He helped to spread evil throughout the world.

Now he wants to be a bible salesman.

6 posted on 03/21/2012 10:51:48 AM PDT by detective
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: pogo101

-—, I wonder if it also will get rid of these two verses near the end of the Revelation to John:——

John was referring to the book that he was writing, Revelation. The canon of the NT was yet to be determined.

As for Jimmy, he’s still a fool.


7 posted on 03/21/2012 10:52:00 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: RecoveringPaulisto

He does make reference to what marriage is , ie a man will leave father and mother and join his wife and also he referernces sodom and gomorrah Matthew 10:14-15. The idea that Jesus doesn’t specifically talks about homosexuality is ridiculous... I believe Jesus never talked about rape or pedophilia, so is is rape okay and have sex with a child?


8 posted on 03/21/2012 10:52:26 AM PDT by scbison
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Morgana

Mr. Carter, apparently, skips over Leviticus and Romans.

OMG.


9 posted on 03/21/2012 10:53:06 AM PDT by RexBeach (Mr. Obama Can't Count.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Morgana
So there is some fallibility in the writings of the Bible.

And who decides where the fallibility is?

10 posted on 03/21/2012 10:54:25 AM PDT by throwback ( The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Morgana
"Homosexuality was well known in the ancient world, well before Christ was born and Jesus never said a word about homosexuality."

Christ most certainly condemned homosexuality. In both Matthew and Mark he condemns "pornea" which is the greek word Jews used for any form of sex which is not permitted under Jewish law. This certainly included homosexuality.

11 posted on 03/21/2012 10:56:40 AM PDT by circlecity
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Morgana

Gageth me. And what a trend this’ll start...


12 posted on 03/21/2012 11:02:03 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (It was the best of times, it was the worst of times...well, half-right, at least.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: scbison

I was simply pointing out that Jesus did not have to speak about the subject for it to be morally binding since the teaching is found elsewhere in God’s revelation. As you point, Jesus does not talk about everything that is immoral, so to say Jesus not mentioning something means it is automatically morally upright is a fallacious notion if you have an orthodox view of the canon of Scripture.


13 posted on 03/21/2012 11:03:16 AM PDT by RecoveringPaulisto
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: scbison

He tries to make Christianity fit his world views and ignores the scriptures that make him uncomfortable. Matthew 19:4,5 shows that Jesus is talking about a man and a woman - not a mention of same sex or any other unions that man can come up with. Just a man and a woman.
I have no need for this Bible he is selling as I feel he was a terrible president and even a worse Bible teacher.


14 posted on 03/21/2012 11:10:29 AM PDT by texaschick
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Morgana
“He contended the “mandated subservience of women by Christian fundamentalists” contributes to the Islamic practice of female genital mutilation.”

That is about the strangest thing I've ever heard.

The Christian treatment of women (”In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. After all, no one ever hated their own body, but they feed and care for their body, just as Christ does the church—for we are members of his body. “For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh.” is in direct OPPOSITION to what islamists do to women.

When Christians go to Islamic countries like Afghanistan and certain African countries to open schools that women may go to, the schools get bombed. There's no relationship except an inverse one.

15 posted on 03/21/2012 11:11:17 AM PDT by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Morgana

Damn, why can’t that dried-up old attention whore go room temp already?????

STFU, Carter.


16 posted on 03/21/2012 11:13:07 AM PDT by ScottinVA (A single drop of American blood for muslims is one drop too many!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Morgana

Liberals like Carter are amazing: To them, God agrees with all of their political opinions.

What a coincidence!


17 posted on 03/21/2012 11:18:34 AM PDT by pogo101
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: scbison
Ditto that. Jesus did say this in regards to divorce:

“Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’? So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”

I don't see any provision in this statement for the joining of same sex couples. Since Jesus was speaking directly to divorce, it seems to me that he lays out what God intended marriage to be and there is no mention of men joined to men or women to women. Clear to me, but then I must be a fundamentalist.

18 posted on 03/21/2012 11:19:58 AM PDT by throwback ( The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Morgana

The simple truth of the matter is, Jesus didn’t have to say ONE word about homosexuality, or anything to warn us about homosexuality, at the time Jesus walked among men homosexuality was a capital crime punishable by death. Common knowledge to everyone of that era and common sense to everyone of this era that cares enough about the TRUTH to seek it honestly.

Can you show us in the Bible where Christ was a homosexuality advocate? (NO)

Christ said... Mark 10:6
But from the beginning of creation he [God] made them male and female. 10:7 For this reason a man will leave his father and mother, 10:8 and the two will become one flesh. So they are no longer two, but one flesh. 10:9 Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”

Nuff said..


19 posted on 03/21/2012 11:33:18 AM PDT by DirtyHarryY2K (The Tree of Liberty is long overdue for its natural manure)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Morgana

This is yet another reason to boycoot the NIV organization... whatever they call themselves now....


20 posted on 03/21/2012 11:35:43 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Morgana

The Bible is so clear on homosexuality, I’ve always wondered how people who call themselves Christian can be in favor of gay marriage, how they can make that leap. Many times on Facebook, I’ll see somebody post some preachy image about how gay marriage is a right and anyone who disagrees is a horrible, hateful bigot...then in their next post, they post a prayer thread or something about God! It just amazes me. I guess they probably justify it in the same way Carter does.

I also find it interesting that Carter would talk about women’s rights. Years ago I read his wife’s autobiography. He was extremely inconsiderate toward her, expecting her to be submissive. There’s one part where he insists they move to a new home, even though Mrs. Carter opposed the move and was heartbroken over leaving her old home and loved ones. In the book she talks about the drive to the new home. She sobs in misery the whole time, while Jimmy cheerfully sings and whistles, totally oblivious or uncaring about his wife’s distress. Insisting on the move was one thing, but singing and grinning and whistling while she’s obviously heartbroken? That scene in the book has stuck with me all these years, what an absolute ass he was.


21 posted on 03/21/2012 11:39:21 AM PDT by Nea Wood (When life gets too hard to stand, kneel.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: fishtank

Zondervan tanked years ago. Half the “Evangelical” publishing houses these days won’t even wince at publishing outright heresy.


22 posted on 03/21/2012 11:40:08 AM PDT by RecoveringPaulisto
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: Morgana

so jimmy is still toiling hard in the serpent’s vinyard. no surprise. he is certainly a loyal soldier for the evil one.

this is a sin of pride and idolatry so great, if true, that he must high in the circles of corruption.

carter is more evidence that the political power elite (both parties) has so clearly been working for evil and has been for many decades. and that the Lord is allowing them to destroy us as a nation. the Lord is teaching and testing.

strangely the evil behavior of our politicians (e.g., romney, reid, pelosi, obama, boehner, cantor, etc) is a comfort as i realize i have no control, other than to practice virtue as an individual conservative. to continue to my job for my family. to do the right thing. to advance Liberty whenever and in whatever small way i can and let His will be done.


23 posted on 03/21/2012 11:47:06 AM PDT by dadfly
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Morgana

I just want to check on something that gets overlooked quite a bit:

1. If one man shoots his genetic material into another man’s rectum, gestation still does not occur.

and

2. If one woman bumps her genetals against another woman’s genetalia, or anything other than another man’s penis for that matter, no gestation occurs.

Are this two observations still operative as facts? Biblically speaking, how does Jimmy Peanut see this as fitting into God’s plan? That may be the wrong question.

How do these observation fit into Jimmy Carter’s plan, given that Jimmy’s written himself a new Bible?


24 posted on 03/21/2012 11:56:37 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs (Does beheading qualify as 'breaking my back', in the Jeffersonian sense of the expression?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Morgana

I’ll just stick with my King James Version, thank you.


25 posted on 03/21/2012 12:08:27 PM PDT by JamesA (You don't have to be big to stand tall)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Morgana

Is Carter still alive? How old is that old coot?


26 posted on 03/21/2012 1:01:43 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: FreeAtlanta

“Is Carter still alive? How old is that old coot?”

Methuselah


27 posted on 03/21/2012 1:50:36 PM PDT by Morgana (I only come here to see what happens next. It normally does.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: Morgana
When Raushenbush pressed him about whether he believed the Bible is God’s word, Carter answered, “the basic principles of the Bible are taught by God, but written down by human beings deprived of modern day knowledge. So there is some fallibility in the writings of the Bible. But the basic principles are applicable to my life and I don’t find any conflict among them.”

Heretic.

"It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit and they are life." (John 6:63)

"He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation, but is passed from dead unto life. (John 5:24)

It's the words, not the basic principles.

28 posted on 03/21/2012 2:47:40 PM PDT by nonsporting
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Morgana
Homosexuality was well known in the ancient world, well before Christ was born and Jesus never said a word about homosexuality. In all of his teachings about multiple things – he never said that gay people should be condemned. I personally think it is very fine for gay people to be married in civil ceremonies. (Emphasis added.)

Jimmy Carter doesn't know that Jesus Christ is God. It was the preincarnate Jesus Christ who spoke to Moses:

(1) And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, ... (13) If a man lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. (Leviticus 20)

We know this because "no man has seen God (the Father) at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him" (John 1:18). Jesus Christ "is the image of the invisible God" (Colosians 1:18). Moses saw Jesus Christ in Exodus 33:23-23. It was Jesus Christ the LORD who spake all these words to Moses.

29 posted on 03/21/2012 3:03:56 PM PDT by nonsporting
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Morgana
and in 2010, he told the website Big Think it was time to elect “a gay person” as president.

Jimmah got his wish

30 posted on 03/21/2012 3:27:00 PM PDT by hattend (Jesus wants me to make churches pay for abortions. - Barack Obama)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Gamecock

If, as we believe, the WHOLE Bible is the word of God, Jesus DID say quite a lot about homosexuality and a lot of other things.


31 posted on 03/21/2012 3:50:34 PM PDT by irishtenor (Everything in moderation, however, too much whiskey is just enough... Mark Twain)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: irishtenor

And there is part of the problem.

I’ll bet Jimmy reads a “Red Letter Bible.” Somehow the words of Jesus are given greater emphasis than the rest of Scripture. Never mind that the entirety of Scripture is red letters.


32 posted on 03/21/2012 4:37:27 PM PDT by Gamecock (Celebrating 17,153 replies of dubious quality!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: Gamecock

Yup, the RED letter edition is one of the worst ideas to come out of publishing. It makes part of the Bible seem more important than others, when the whole Bible is the Word.


33 posted on 03/21/2012 5:03:36 PM PDT by irishtenor (Everything in moderation, however, too much whiskey is just enough... Mark Twain)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: RinaseaofDs
2. If one woman bumps her genetals against another woman’s genetalia, or anything other than another man’s penis for that matter, no gestation occurs.

Whoa! Hold on there! Don't go getting Jimmah's heart a'lustin' there...

34 posted on 03/21/2012 5:23:35 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (The only flaw is that America doesn't recognize Cyber's omniscience. -- sergeantdave)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: nonsporting

Thank you, I was trying to remember where that was in the Bible.

Shows I need to read it a little more often.


35 posted on 03/21/2012 7:58:32 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: fishtank

It is sad to remember when the NIV was a respected translation. And then the translation veered further and further astray...

But when you have a Jimmy Carter Butt-plug Study Bible, you’ve REALLY gone where no man ought to want to go!


36 posted on 03/21/2012 8:22:30 PM PDT by Mr Rogers ("they found themselves made strangers in their own country")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: Gamecock; Morgana; metmom; Dr. Eckleburg; RnMomof7; Alex Murphy; irishtenor
Apparently Jimmy never taught Leviticus in his class. I'd sure be interested in how he would interpret:

Carter probably puts himself in the category of wanting to believe what he wants to believe. That is the sign of a false prophet.

37 posted on 03/22/2012 5:24:04 PM PDT by HarleyD
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: HarleyD

Harley, shame on you. You put Leviticus in RED LETTERS. Everybody knows that those are reserved for the words of Jesus...

(I pray you know I was being sarcastic)


38 posted on 03/22/2012 7:06:40 PM PDT by irishtenor (Everything in moderation, however, too much whiskey is just enough... Mark Twain)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson