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Refuse to pay 'Smart Meter' op-out fees
Natural Remedies Matter ^ | 03/22/2012 | Libertynotfree

Posted on 03/22/2012 4:27:29 PM PDT by Libertynotfree

We the below refuse to pay any additional fees to retain our analog meters or have smart meters that were installed without our permission replaced with a safe, reliable analog.

Please spread the word and have everyone you know sign this Petition.

(Excerpt) Read more at naturalremediesmatter.com ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Local News; Miscellaneous; Science
KEYWORDS: blogpimp; health; pge; radiation; smartmeter
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1 posted on 03/22/2012 4:27:35 PM PDT by Libertynotfree
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To: Libertynotfree

We just got a notice that if we don’t want the “smart meter” we have to pay a $35 fee, then $15 a month to stay on the opt out.
ah, No! You do not pay not to do something.


2 posted on 03/22/2012 4:34:45 PM PDT by svcw (CLEAN WATER & Education http://www.longlostsis.com/PI/MayanHelp2012.html)
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To: Libertynotfree

thank you for this post. i’ve been fighting pg&e smart meters since their inception. and yes they are now trying to shake us down for an “opt out” fee. i actually had to stand in the way of my fenced off and locked analog meter to keep one from being installed.


3 posted on 03/22/2012 4:36:03 PM PDT by dadfly
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To: Libertynotfree

This really has me going! I just got notice today that Southern California Edison is going to charge me $75 plus $10 a month to opt out — IF the CA Utilities Commission decides to allow opt-outs at its May meeting. I sense a full-bore rebellion coming. If we don’t stop this then America has become a sick joke.


4 posted on 03/22/2012 4:45:20 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: Libertynotfree

I had read about these smart meters and was going to contact the electric company about opting out. A few days later, I noticed our old meter had been replaced with a shiny new meter. I did read that the EMR readings from these are high. Our bedroom is just through the wall from this thing. I just don’t want this thing on our house.


5 posted on 03/22/2012 4:50:53 PM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: Libertynotfree
safe, reliable analog

Are there really people this willfully ignorant in the world?

As a designer of smart meters, I challenge anyone to show me mean-time-between-failures figures that prove that analog meters are more reliable than electronic.

You can't.

Electronic meters HAVE NO MOVING PARTS TO WEAR OUT.

Not long ago, one of my customers sent back a "smart" gas meter that had been in the field since 1987.

Yes, you read that right.

And it was still working.

And they're plenty safe, folks. It's not ionizing radiation, it's radio waves, same as your cell phone, baby monitor, and wireless key fob for your car. I did the calculations for safe RF exposure myself, folks. It's not going to hurt you.

No, smart meters cannot report on how often you have sex, what magazines you read, or whether you are a candidate to go to a FEMA camp. It JUST MEASURES POWER/WATER/GAS. It doesn't have the computer power, memory, or gumption to do anything else. It just obeys its boring little program, reporting meter readings ever 4 hours so the utility company can balance their loads.

Sheesh, can we stop with the smart meter paranoia on FR already?

6 posted on 03/22/2012 5:20:59 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (I will vote against ANY presidential candidate who had non-citizen parents.)
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To: svcw

I have heard from several sources that after getting a smart meter their monthly bills went up rather more than that $35.


7 posted on 03/22/2012 5:21:28 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: Cowgirl of Justice
I did read that the EMR readings from these are high.

(forehead smack)

On what frequency? Are you sure the EM readings are at 902 - 928 MHz (license-free band)? Are you sure it's not at 60 Hz (power line frequency), because the inductance of the current transformer in your particular smart meter is higher than that of your old analog meter?

You don't even know what you're talking about, do you?

8 posted on 03/22/2012 5:26:11 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (I will vote against ANY presidential candidate who had non-citizen parents.)
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To: Cowgirl of Justice
I did read that the EMR readings from these are high.

(forehead smack)

On what frequency? Are you sure the EM readings are at 902 - 928 MHz (license-free band)? Are you sure it's not at 60 Hz (power line frequency), because the inductance of the current transformer in your particular smart meter is higher than that of your old analog meter?

You don't even know what you're talking about, do you?

9 posted on 03/22/2012 5:28:31 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (I will vote against ANY presidential candidate who had non-citizen parents.)
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To: arthurus
I have heard from several sources that after getting a smart meter their monthly bills went up rather more than that $35.

Probably because the old analog meter was out of calibration, and was reading low. That doesn't happen to electronic ("smart") electric meters.

10 posted on 03/22/2012 5:30:02 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (I will vote against ANY presidential candidate who had non-citizen parents.)
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To: backwoods-engineer

http://smartmeterskill.com/?p=43

Apparently, YOU are the one who doesn’t know what they are talking about. Hit that forehead a little harder next time, will ya?


11 posted on 03/22/2012 5:36:20 PM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: backwoods-engineer

while they may be “smart” and you claim “safe” I like my mechanical one..

You can’t send it a signal to “adjust” the amount of electricity used. You can’t send it a signal to limit my usage..

my electric company can’t even read my meter with out coming out to my house.

I like it that way.


12 posted on 03/22/2012 6:08:32 PM PDT by cableguymn (Good thing I am a conservative. Otherwise I would have to support Mittens like Republicans do.)
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To: Cowgirl of Justice

Your ref. site says NOTHING.
IT isn’t even opposed to ‘smart’ meters. Just EMF.
You dont have a toaster? microwave oven? electric blanket?
sorry - backwoods engineer wins this round.


13 posted on 03/22/2012 6:12:34 PM PDT by aumrl (let's keep it real Conservatives)
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To: backwoods-engineer

Probably because the old analog meter was out of calibration, and was reading low. That doesn’t happen to electronic (”smart”) electric meters.


oh ya.. sure... that’s got to be it (rolling eyes)

I fought with my electric company for years. my bill was twice what it was at a different apartment..

I got behind on my payments (lost my job) and the electric company came out and shut off my electricity..

Wouldn’t you know it, the apartment next door and half the hallway lights went out with it.

What I am getting at is all the long I heard “sir, there is no way our meter is out of calibration. *that does not happen*”

Turns out they where right.

Also turns out the landlord was in a heep of trouble. Apartment next doors meter was feeding a hallway closet. Their bill was 10 bucks a month. They never questioned it (hey.. I wouldn’t either)

Landlord ended up eating the whole bill back to the day I moved in under Minnesota law. (shared meter law)


14 posted on 03/22/2012 6:14:24 PM PDT by cableguymn (Good thing I am a conservative. Otherwise I would have to support Mittens like Republicans do.)
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To: dadfly

I suggest that they should shut off your electricity!!


15 posted on 03/22/2012 6:15:29 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: cableguymn

the company can put meter on pole.
the company can turn off your transformer secondary.
dont be a flat earther - as the great pretender would say


16 posted on 03/22/2012 6:15:29 PM PDT by aumrl (let's keep it real Conservatives)
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17 posted on 03/22/2012 6:17:59 PM PDT by narses
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To: Cowgirl of Justice
Bullcrap. I design them for a living. I know I am talking about.

Some website that claim these meters "kill"?

You're kidding, right?

18 posted on 03/22/2012 6:18:14 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (I will vote against ANY presidential candidate who had non-citizen parents.)
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To: cableguymn
my electric company can’t even read my meter with out coming out to my house. I like it that way.

Why? So your electricity costs more due to them having to roll a truck when no physical presence is necessary?

Sorry, I have no sympathy for this. If you want electricity, it should be metered how the company who sells it to you wants it to be metered. Otherwise, disconnect the juice and live off-grid.

19 posted on 03/22/2012 6:21:28 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (I will vote against ANY presidential candidate who had non-citizen parents.)
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To: arthurus; cableguymn

Actually the analog meters do go out of calibration ,, you see they have magnets inside that slow/stop the rotation of the mechanism (braking magnets) , and when they get old (or damaged by lightning or whatever) they typically start reading HIGHER than they should ... a common way to lower your meter readings is to place a STRONG magnet on the side of the box... also those screw adjusters you commonly see that are labeled F and S (fast / slow) they indicate the METER is FAST or METER is SLOW ... if you crank the “SLOW” adjuster you SPEED UP the meter..


20 posted on 03/22/2012 6:40:23 PM PDT by Neidermeyer
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