Skip to comments.It looks like DHS isnít the only ammunition hog in the United States
Posted on 04/06/2012 4:36:39 AM PDT by Renfield
There are two stories that have come to light recently, the first is the awarding of a contract to a munitions manufacturer for 450,000,000 hollow point rounds for the .40 caliber.
The second story which I wrote is how the Department of Homeland Security had already ordered 200,000,000 rounds of .40 caliber, but also ordered 15,000 gun cleaning kits for the .40 caliber weapons, and has put a request out for a virtual shooting gallery for the .40 caliber handguns.
650,000,000 round of ammunition is quite a bit of lead and brass. It will sure to drive the price of copper and brass way up. But Homeland Security is not alone in their requests.
The other departments -- the ones that handle mundane things like meat quality -- believe they need to be armed to the teeth as well. Its enough to make a non-paranoid person, well, paranoid.
The US Department of Agriculture put in a bid for a wide variety of ammunition. I guess raiding farms and raw milk dairies can be very dangerous work. The required rounds are listed below, and include shotgun slugs.
Frangible rounds for those who dont know, are rounds that are designed to break apart when they hit walls or other hard surfaces to prevent ricochets during close-quarters combat.
Added: Sep 28, 2011 5:15 pm
(1) 40 caliber, 180 grain, 120,000 rounds or equivalent,
(2) 9 mm, 124 grain, 50,000 rounds or equivalent,
(3) .38 caliber, 135 grain, 10,000 rounds or equivalent,
(4) .380 caliber, 90 grain, 6,000 rounds or equivalent,
(5) .223 caliber, 64 grain, 87,500 rounds or equivalent,
(6) 12 gauge 00 buck, 15,000 rounds or equivalent,
(7) 40 caliber frangible, 10,000 rounds or equivalent,
(8) 9 caliber frangible, 10,000 rounds or equivalent,
(9) .223 caliber frangible, 10,000 rounds or equivalent,
(10) 12 gauge 1 oz slug, 7,500 rounds or equivalent
The cartridges shall be delivered to Albuquerque, NM.
And the Department of the Interior needs ammunition as well, but much less, and put the order out on September 2011:
The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Services require the following items, Exact Match Only, to the following:
1. Remington Frangible .40 Caliber Pistol Ammunition 2,500 rounds
2. Remington .40 Caliber Pistol Ammunition (180 grain) Full Metal Jacket 6,000 rounds
3. Remington .223 Caliber Rifle Ammunition (62 grain) Full Metal Jacket 3,000 rounds
4. Remington FX Marking Cartridges (9 mm) 2,000 rounds
These requirements seem normal considering the possibility of running into grizzly bears and wolverines. These, to me, are acceptable quantities to order.
And of course the FBI needs about 100,000,000 rounds of .40 caliber ammunition for law enforcement needs. It posted the request November 15, 2011 and the order will be awarded this week. Oddly, it states a fixed-price, indefinite-delivery, indefinite-quantity type contract; however the pricing requirements go up to 100,000,000 rounds.
So with that large order, we now can move the total excess number of .40 caliber rounds that is needed by this administration to 750,000,000 rounds.
Because we live in a free society they feel they must be armed against Amish folk who want to sell people raw milk, like most humans on this planet drink. Maybe the USDA needs the ammunition to fight the evil cadre of Lemonade Stands that will soon be terrorizing people walking down sidewalks in Suburbia America.
How can a government justify 2.2 rounds per American citizen? Granted, ammunition does have a great shelf life, but this is utterly ridiculous!
The best way to avoid a civil war is not to start one. If they are planning to start one, then it would make sense to arm yourself and take away the guns of the citizenry. If this is just for work, ie, to stop bad guys, then the numbers just dont make sense.
As Sherlock Holmes would say, When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. We are running out of the impossibles and the improbables.
The leftovers are unconscionable and frightening. The game is afoot my friends. Evil in the guise of a benevolent government is still evil.
Will the characters be unmasked in time for our free country to remain free, or will we be another stiff on the slab of history.
If obama’s suporters, in their drive to “fundamentally remake America”, cannot defeat the 2d amendment, his administration will use cabinet agency budgets to drive up the cost of ammunition? Rationing by supply and demand?
Buy Ak’s and ammo from Russia directly.
My kid has done just that, AK74, Mosin Nagant, Saiga 12 ga. and all associated ammo.
Purchased from Russia, ammo delivered to your home via Big Brown. Guns sent to a licenced dealer for your convenient pick up.
Comes in well packed crates with Russian markings all over them. Delivery guy sure looks bewildered.
“These requirements seem normal considering the possibility of running into grizzly bears and wolverines.” Wouldn’t want to encounter a grizzly with any of these calibers!
Big Sis may pay you a visit, friend
Your kid may be tagged for life in “the system”
Good luck to you
Hell, I could supply almost half of that just in ready stock in my basement.
These guys are way behind!!
Awww sorry...all except for that crappy .40 cal. There definatly gonna need all that they can get their hands on !!
Anybody thinking “our” government remains “ ours” anymore is deluded. Our creditors are preparing to come for their collateral.
Welcome to the USSA, comrades. A police state is a safe state!
The obama doctrine:
Drive up the price of fuel beyond the average Americans ability to pay
Drive up the price of food beyond the average Americans ability to pay
Drive up the price of guns and ammo beyond the ability of the average Americans ability to pay
Continue driving up all prices until the average American is dependent on the government for all their needs.
Was in the Army when Eschelon started up.
We all are on the list for everything we do.
What my kid did is legal today.
Precursor to banning ammunition sales perhaps? Or it could be innocent - when was the last time they ordered this much ammo?
Socialism always ends up the same way - with a bullet to the back of someone’s head!
I didn’t see anything bigger than .223 on their shopping list.What are they going to do when the angry citizens with .30 weapons get restless?
I have about 7 1911s, and I once bought 500 rds of Wolf .45ACP for them. Ball Ammo with a steel case. In one of the 1911s (an accurized Springfield), the cartridges always get hung up after the first round. Turns out the extraction rim on the ammunition is slightly thinner than regular brass rims.. On the gun in question, the extractor doesn’t grip the rim strongly and it drops a little on recoil causing a jam....damned frustrating thing now that I have to make sure not to load it in that particular weapon.
This may be its sole purpose. Barry's administration believes in social engineering. The American people are buying too much gasoline so they find ways to raise the price; why not do it with ammo? Beyond being adored/feared, the next thing Barry likes most is being in control of others. Narcissists s*ck.
The ONLY possibility is that the ruling elite plan to use that ammo on us 300 million Americans.
By the way, folks, this started long before Obama...he’s just a stooge for the Bilderbergers. This stuff has been planned at least since the Federal Reserve was founded.
(4) .380 caliber, 90 grain, 6,000 rounds or equivalent,
6000 rounds of .380....ptooey.