Posted on 04/06/2012 7:15:17 PM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing
I've been catalogging the chicanery of the GOP-E for a while now. Take a look at this:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/republican_delegate_count.html
Notice how high the percentage of conservative states are proportional? Notice how low the percentage of progressive states are winner take all? Of course, there's overlap. But the trend is obvious.
This whole thing was friggin rigged from the beginning, by the big wigs and power brokers, in order to get their big government republican darling into the nomination.
Here's the count I took of the 50 states:
Proportional red states - 25
Proportional blue states - 16
Winner Take All Red - 4
Winner Take All Blue - 5
Big wigs and power brokers man......... big wigs and power brokers. SOBs in smoke filled rooms.
I pretty much hold that opinion.
Romney = Max Headroom.
I’ve held that opinion since at least 2007.
Unfortunately, independents will break for Obama once they get a good look at Romney. His military record parallels Clinton’s, his personality Al Gore’s, his hairstyle and flip-flopping John Kerry, and his policies as governor of Massachusetts inspired Obama.
Also, Romney is as unknown quantity, whereas at least you know what you’re getting with Obama. So it’s the old “better the devil you know, that the one you don’t.”
Hopefully Santorum can take PA, Texas and merge with Newt in order to force a brokered convention.
The problem with Romney is not that he’s far from the perfect candidate, but rather that as a candidate he’s not far from Obama.
Santorum has sometimes polled better against Obama. Romney? Get ready to lose unless we have $5-$6 gas. But even if he wins we lose.
When Newt & Perry both failed to get on the VA primary ballot it was clear there "were" dirty tricks coming from the GOPE.
I despise Mitt. But will vote for him is he wins the primary. If the race runs until the Convention, then don't count on Mitt. I have already told (not warned) the GOPE that if they force Mitt on us, this will be my last election as a GOP voter. Obozo must go, but GOPE must too.
because he’s not the uniformly most perfect candidate,
He’s not in the ballpark. He is a pro-abortion, pro-gay, anti-gun liberal. There is NO difference between him and obama. Why should conservatives allow the GOP to “use” us against to get they candidate, we don’t want, so they can get the candidate “they” want. I won’t play their game again. Romney lied, cheated, stole and destroyed good people and bought every vote he got. He can join acorn and buy from them.
The GOPE used me for far to long to get what they wanted, my vote. Telling me what they were going to do and then not doing any of it. Screw the GOP I will vote for the house and senate and not the presidency if it is Romney. If he is the candidate I see no difference in the two. You can tell me all you want that any repub is better than O’Dumby but we need action not more talk from the GOP. I have had it with being drug around to get worthless repubs elected. I use to vote solidly repub but not anymore. I am really really really looking third party. I am POed. I have to post this before I say something to get banned.
Also, let’s not forget that the Utah GOPe - despite controlling the state house, state senate, governor mansion and judiciary - could not secure a conviction against the following Mormon fundamentalist leader (when they finally decided to prosecute):
On the other hand, Texas quickly put him away for life (plus 20 years). Two extremely red states. Two different outcomes.
“Unfortunately, independents will break for Obama once they get a good look at Romney.”
Yeah, because Obama has done such a great job growing the economy and jobs, (/sarc)
seriously, folks, wake up ... MILLIONS of americans are without jobs, and the highest number of long-term unemployed since the Great Depression ... and voters are going to reject Romney because of ... his hair?!? He’s not a veteran?!? (like obama)
Is America better off now than before the error of Obama?
The question is is America going to be better off with Romney then O’Dumby. I am not convinced.
Please, try giving us a few reasons to vote for Willard. A perfect candidate is impossible, but just pick a major issue.
The only reason Romney would ever be in the White House would be because conservatives succumbed to the GOPe's urging to vote out of panic, desperation, and fear -- the territory of losers and victims.
The only way to help ourselves is to have the courage to defend the Republican party from liberalism, and the ONLY way to do that is to reject Romney and face down four more years of Obama; I hope enough people would vote third party (and NOT sit it out!!!) so that Obama squeaked by on only the tiniest plurality. A president in office where the majority of voters are on record as voting against him, is a weakened president. Clinton got only 42 percent of the vote, which emboldened the Republican Revolution. If Obama was re-elected with a plurality win of, say, 40 percent of the vote, Republicans and America would be better off than if Romney got in to surrender the Republican party wholesale to liberalism.
It is CERTAIN that Obama would be even more despised, embattled, and weak than he is now for the simple reason that most Americans think he's a crappy president. Chicken Littles squawk that we couldn't survive it, but theirs is the call of panic, desperation, and fear -- the mindset of victims and losers.
If liberalism is rejected in the GOP even if it means Obama, conservatism would grow stronger and we'd at least have a fighting chance against the real enemy, liberalism.
If, God forbid, Romney got in, there'd be no gamble: it would be 100 percent CERTAIN that liberalism would grow more powerful in both parties and a 100 percent chance that Republicans would become disarmed in fighting it.
>>...Romney will be the nominee because...he’s getting more votes than the other candidates...<<
True! “GOP Electorate” does not equal “Conservative Voter”. Unfortunately, the point of view of most Freepers and/or the Tea-Party base is (apparently) a small minority of the overall GOP electorate. Doubly unfortunate is that it appears the majority of the GOP electorate will readily vote for whoever the GOP-e/MSM tells them to vote for.
Open question to anyone who has any ideas: I highly doubt this election will turn out in in any satisfying way for the conservative base so, looking ahead to future election seasons, how do we turn the GOP electorate around in our favor? I haven’t a clue, but it must be done...
McCain, H.W. Bush, Nixon, Dole, Ford, we wish.
This a nightmare beyond all those other nightmares.
“Is America better off now than before the error of Obama?”
A couple questions:
1 - Is the error Obama’s to begin with, or is he simply copying what Romney did as governor of Massachusetts?
2 - As bad off as we are under Obama, how will America be any better off under Romney?
“Is the error Obama’s to begin with”
Yes. I am of the opinion that Obama has been the worst President in our lifetimes, worse than Carter, LBJ and Nixon combined. Obama’s mentor was Saul Alinsky, and it shows.
Maybe you have a different opinion.
“As bad off as we are under Obama, how will America be any better off under Romney?”
Having suffered four years of Obama’s extremist partisan hatred for all things conservative, his appointment of leftists to courts, his regulatory overreach, his attacks on family values (such as now attacking the DOMA law his DOJ should uphold), his over-spending, to the tune of $45 TRILLION in his 10 year budget, and adding $6 trillion to our debt with no end in sight to trillion dollar deficits, his anti-energy policies, his pro-abortion policies, and his terrible record on jobs, with the worst jobs record and worst economic record of a president in a long time, one thing is clear:
Even a sack of rotten potatoes would make a better president than Obama, and any Republican would be much better than that.
example: The Obama administration has cut off Texas’ women’s health program funding because the prolife Republicans in Texas had the audacity to defund planned parenthood out of it. This would not happen if Gingrich or Romney were President. Hundreds of differences like that.
If I understand what you're getting at and your numbers and my math are right, something like 86% of the red states are proportional and something like 76% of the blue states are proportional.
I guess that's statistically significant, but whether it makes a difference in real world terms is harder to say. Given better candidates such a difference might make a difference, but given who we have, we get what we get.
Yes they are.
Will it work?
Not on my wife or me.
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