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Fan returns double-eagle ball
ESPN ^ | 4/8/2012 | Gene Wojciechowski

Posted on 04/08/2012 7:52:43 PM PDT by T-Bird45

AUGUSTA, Ga. -- The golf ball sat at the bottom of the left pocket of Wayne Mitchell's green cargo shorts.

"I've got a zip on it," Mitchell said of the zipper pulled tight across the pants leg.

He might have considered a safety deposit box.

Mitchell owned -- for a few hours, at least -- one of the most famous golf balls in Masters history. He got it Sunday afternoon after Louis Oosthuizen double-eagled the par-5 2nd hole, pulled the Titleist from the cup and, incredibly, underhand-tossed it toward the patrons seated behind the green.

It landed in the hands of Mitchell, a 59-year old from New Tripoli, Pa., who was making his fifth trip to the tournament.

"Actually, the biggest fear I had was that I was going to drop it," Mitchell said before eventually returning the ball to Augusta National officials later in the afternoon.

(Excerpt) Read more at espn.go.com ...


TOPICS: Hobbies; Sports; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: doubleeagle; golf; golfball; masters
While not specifically stated, it appears the "patron" was compensated in some way to give the ball used for the historic shot to the Augusta National Golf Club. The comments on the website are entertaining on what various people would have requested for turning the ball over to the club. What about you?
1 posted on 04/08/2012 7:52:49 PM PDT by T-Bird45
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To: T-Bird45
Not my property, return it. I'm stupid that way.

/johnny

2 posted on 04/08/2012 8:00:38 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I’m with ya. It’s a f’n golf ball, not autographed.


3 posted on 04/08/2012 8:02:56 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: JRandomFreeper
Not my property, return it. I'm stupid that way.

You know what my feeling about it is? Not my property, return it. I'm stupid that way too. My honesty is far more precious to me.

4 posted on 04/08/2012 8:13:05 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: T-Bird45

I’m confused. Why would he give it back? It was given to him. Or was it thrown accidentally?


5 posted on 04/08/2012 8:17:51 PM PDT by Terry Mross ("It happened. And we let it happen." - Peter Griffin, Family Guy)
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To: T-Bird45

Quite a contrast to a landmark home run.


6 posted on 04/08/2012 8:24:36 PM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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To: Terry Mross
Or was it thrown accidentally?

The player just wanted the fans to fondle his...... I'll stop there while I'm not banned.

/johnny

7 posted on 04/08/2012 8:31:35 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Terry Mross

He tossed it to the gallery after taking it from the hole.


8 posted on 04/08/2012 8:35:45 PM PDT by Baynative (Please check this out - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFIcZkEzc8I)
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To: Baynative

It was a classy thing to do. He didn’t have to give the ball back. The golf museum has a new addition and this lucky guy probably has free tickets to next years Masters.


9 posted on 04/08/2012 8:48:45 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Solyent Pink is Sheeple!!!!)
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To: JRandomFreeper

“Not my property, return it. I’m stupid that way.”
________________________________________

I am a bit confused.
Did the golfer not toss the ball to the crowd for some lucky
person to catch it?
If that is the case, the catcher becomes the new owner
of the ball, and is under no ethical, moral, or legal
reason to return the ball, or give it to anyone.
Am I missing something here?

If the tradition is for the club to have the ball, why would it have been tossed to the crowd?


10 posted on 04/08/2012 8:53:10 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: AlexW
If that is the case, the catcher becomes the new owner of the ball, and is under no ethical, moral, or legal reason to return the ball, or give it to anyone.

You are assuming an implied contract that may not actually exist.

I can toss you something, and it still remains my property.

But, in your case, I probably wouldn't. Even if it was a life vest.

/johnny

11 posted on 04/08/2012 8:59:40 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

In sports it is implied that if a player tosses a ball or piece of equipment into the stads or gallery he is surrending ownership of it. Also as a golfer provides his own equipment Augusta Natioal or the PGA cannot claim ownership of the item.


12 posted on 04/08/2012 9:07:59 PM PDT by LukeL (Barack Obama: Jimmy Carter 2 Electric Boogaloo)
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To: JRandomFreeper

“But, in your case, I probably wouldn’t. Even if it was a life vest.”
______________________________________

You don’t have to get all snotty about it.
I was just asking a simple question for clarification, which, of course, you did not answer.

If anyone is a fault, it appears to be the golfer himself.


13 posted on 04/08/2012 9:23:36 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: T-Bird45

It was a selfless act by Oosthuizen even more selfless act by Mitchell.


14 posted on 04/08/2012 9:26:45 PM PDT by Cyman
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To: AlexW
This was simply a two cordial thing between Golfer and fan.

The golfer out of excitement threw the ball to the crowd, releasing ownership at that point.

The excited fan who caught it, excited as well to receive the ball.

No one at that point has any obligation to each other.

The Club has no ownership as well.

However: this being a historic ball, the fan determined that it should be returned, as is a good thing. Without it being autographed or somehow labeled in some way. It would be worthless now or down the road. No way to prove it.

The fan did the best thing, that is what good golfers and fans do. It's a gentlemans honor thing.

15 posted on 04/08/2012 9:46:22 PM PDT by annieokie
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To: JRandomFreeper

It was a nice gesture to return the ball, but there’s no doubt whatsoever that the ball belonged to the spectator.

It was given away by the golfer.


16 posted on 04/08/2012 10:03:07 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: T-Bird45

I wouldn’t be surprised if Wayne Mitchell retained ownership if the golf ball, but simply offered it to the Agusta National’s museum on permanent loan.


17 posted on 04/09/2012 3:51:07 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Cyman

Ebay baby....


18 posted on 04/09/2012 5:55:47 AM PDT by y6162
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To: JRandomFreeper; AlexW

/johnny’s smarmy post has made me realize I’m a long-time thief!

For years I’ve gone to the Christmas parade, and when the people on the floats throw candy into the crowd, I catch it and eat it. I’m ashamed to admit that I’ve never chased them down the street through the crowd to try to give it back... Shame on me! Look upon my shame!


19 posted on 04/09/2012 12:57:01 PM PDT by Fletcher J
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To: gunsequalfreedom
Not my property, return it. I'm stupid that way too.

I'm with you on this one too......besides, I would have just sliced it into the woods on the very first tee the next day anyway.

20 posted on 04/09/2012 1:03:02 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: T-Bird45

Wow! It is apparent that most folks here have no idea about the history of this event!

Do you really have any idea how hard it is to make a double eagle? Apparently not!

Most really good golfers try for a double eagle their whole life with the chance of success at much less than 1%. This shot would be the culmination of a lifetime of golf for most folks. Heck, even in the professional circuit, it is so rare that it is considered a miracle.

To non golfers, get a life - this was such an unusual event that event the Masters folks wanted the ball back!

Okay, a bit of confession - I have been trying all of my golfing life to get a double eagle (the only thing that I do not have - 2 hole in ones). I finally had to give it up with age.

This is a momentous thing and should go down in history for the Masters! Thank goodness he gave them back that ball!


21 posted on 04/09/2012 4:43:04 PM PDT by Deagle (nOT)
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To: T-Bird45

Being a woman, I would have asked to be made a member of the club :-) I would have asked just to watch Hootie pass out.


22 posted on 04/09/2012 4:46:58 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: EQAndyBuzz
It was a classy thing to do. He didn’t have to give the ball back.

I fully agree with you..the ball was voluntarily given to the fan without expectation for return. Giving it back was a gracious act by a true golf lover.

Any good golfer will agree that golf is one of the last honest games out there. Golfers will tell on themselves when they have violated the rules, all the while when no one else saw them do it.

Consider other professional sports, like football, when a player, such as a receiver, blows a route and looks towards the ref for an interference or holding call that never happened...

The guy had no legal obligation to return the ball...he had a moral and ethical obligation...I don't know the details but I imagine the reward was offered, yet not demanded - at least that's what I am going to believe.

23 posted on 04/09/2012 4:57:19 PM PDT by IrishPennant (Are you behind a "Blade of Grass?")
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To: annieokie

You am good folks, AM...


24 posted on 04/09/2012 4:59:31 PM PDT by IrishPennant (Are you behind a "Blade of Grass?")
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To: IrishPennant

Whoops...too fast...AO, not AM (The letters ain’t even close on the keyboard, so I have no excuse other than a low slung forehead).


25 posted on 04/09/2012 5:01:28 PM PDT by IrishPennant (Are you behind a "Blade of Grass?")
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To: T-Bird45

Return that WHITE ball??? I just wanted some Skittles, damn you!!!


26 posted on 04/09/2012 5:05:34 PM PDT by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.....)
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To: IrishPennant
lol. Thanks for clarifying, haha. I was stumped for a minute.

All are talking about how hard it is to make that double eagle, it is nearly impossible, but we see it can happen.

I believe the odds of that are greater than getting a hole in one. My husband has 5 hole in ones, got 2 of them last year, a day after the tournament that gave away a car. hahaha. Oh, well we would have to pay taxes on that anyway.

He is of course an amateur and 75 yrs old. He wants one more to tie another man in the club.

27 posted on 04/10/2012 7:04:59 AM PDT by annieokie
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To: annieokie; mickie
Here I am, to the rescue of golf dummies like me:

A double-eagle is a rare bird on the golf course - much rarer than a hole-in-one.

To make a double-eagle requires acing a par-4 hole or scoring 2 on a par-5 hole.

The unscientific odds of scoring a double-eagle are about a million-to-one. The unscientific odds of scoring a hole-in-one are about 13,000-to-one.

(Discrepancies in odds will occur due to the disparate skills of professionals in match play....and everyday duffers on their local links.....plus lack of verifiable records....in other words the odds stated are merely educated guesses.).

28 posted on 04/10/2012 7:30:16 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: MinuteGal

lol


29 posted on 04/10/2012 4:56:23 PM PDT by annieokie
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To: annieokie
Trust me...God Himself loves golf, created it as the only honest game, and then shared it with us humans to amuse himself as he watches us struggle with it...

I picture God with a 1000 inch flat screen, Dolby Surround Sound set to theater mode, kicking back in his "Media" room (cloud), saying, "Dang it, biy...stop with the three putts already."

30 posted on 04/12/2012 6:58:06 PM PDT by IrishPennant (Are you behind a "Blade of Grass?")
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To: IrishPennant
Dang it, biy

Whoops...should be: Dang it, boy

No excuse for typos...

31 posted on 04/12/2012 7:01:03 PM PDT by IrishPennant (Are you behind a "Blade of Grass?")
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To: IrishPennant
Love your sense of humor, and God I am positive certainly has one as well, HE invented humor.

BUT, as I told my pastor who loves to play golf, there can't be Golf in heaven. How would we play when everyone is a winner, hole in one every hole, what's the point? No losers, as there are no tears in heaven, no anger!

My pastor didn't like that very much, I managed to ruin his day. Oh well. lol

32 posted on 04/12/2012 9:03:19 PM PDT by annieokie
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