Posted on 04/16/2012 11:42:06 AM PDT by Some Lib on the Wrong Forums
Hello freepers, I'm a registered Democrat, but I'd really rather not be. I would much rather sign myself onto some progressive party as I feel they would better represent me, my views and my country. However, if I were to do so in the current political environment I would be throwing my vote away and by not voting for the Democrat I'm helping the Republican candidate inch closer to a plurality. Similarly, I'm sure plenty of you guys would much rather have a strong Libertarian Party or some sort of Evangelical Party instead of being lumped in with the rest of the Republican Party. How do we remedy this problem? Well, that's the tricky part. In close elections if either of us put up an Independent candidate who supported reform, but otherwise held the same views as the candidate we'd normally vote for then we'd end up splitting the vote and guaranteeing that the guy we don't like wins the seat.
That leaves elections that are never close. The ones in the rural Midwest and South that will invariably go to the GOP and the ones in New England and the Northwest that will invariably go to the Dems. These are the incumbents that never have to worry about losing their seat in the general, they just have to win their primary. I honestly believe that by putting up an Independent in these races we can win enough seats to achieve reform. I don't want reform to favor one ideology or another, I don't want it to lessen the voices of conservatives or liberals and I certainly don't want to open up any possibilities of fraud. I just want the Senate and House of Representatives to actually REPRESENT the views Americans have. After that's done we can go back to disagreeing with eachother at every turn, but I believe in my heart that this is far too important of an issue to go unresolved just because I'm a liberal and you guys are conservatives.
Up to this point I haven't actually laid out any solutions, so I'll just list what I'd like to see in any reform.
-End Gerrymandering
-Replace First Past the Post with some sort of preferential system
That's it. That's the only groundwork I'd like in there. Those two simple steps are where I think we'll find common ground
How about staring with having to prove you are a citizen when you vote, and then only being allowed to vote once?
IBTZ
Why don’t you libs rename your party to reflect your belief system. Can you say “Communist”?
The Viking kitties will be here soon.
IBTZ !!!!!
That woud effectively end any liberal democrat wins except in the major cities.
AMEN!
Did I make it?
CPUSA =Progressive.
That what you want?
IBTZ
Live one here!
[ Why don’t you libs rename your party to reflect your belief system. Can you say “Communist”? ]
If they did that the majority of the GOP leadership would have to rename themselves as the “WHIG Progressive party”
But that would be good as a new Conservative party would have to be formed.
I notice you just signed up today to say:"I would much rather sign myself onto some progressive party as I feel they would better represent me, my views...
Ba, ba, ba, ba, ba bye bye!
I think you'd find it more comfortable over in this forum....CPUSA
While the cyclotron warms up, could you explain why a progressive would have any problems with Obama? He is a radical, so what do you want?
[ -End Gerrymandering ]
This would need to be done as replacing it with a Solid mathematical formula that was immutable and that neither party would want.
And it would have to be done state by state because districts are controlled from a state level.
But I did read your post, and did consider your points.
Up to this point I haven't actually laid out any solutions, so I'll just list what I'd like to see in any reform.
-End Gerrymandering
Any last words?
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