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U.S. BOMBER DOWN IN SOVIET FAR EAST AFTER THE TOKYO RAID, SAYS MOSCOW (4/24/42)
Microfilm-New York Times archives, Monterey Public Library
| 4/24/42
| Robert P. Post, Hanson W. Baldwin
Posted on 04/24/2012 4:42:22 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson
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TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: milhist; realtime; worldwarii
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
Selections from West Point Atlas for the Second World War Battle of Bataan, 1942
Luzon, P.I., 1941: Centrifugal Offensive, 10 December 1941-6 May 1942-Fourteenth Army Operations on Luzon
Netherlands East Indies, 1941: Japanese Centrifugal Offensive, December 1941-April 1942, Sixteenth Army and Southern Force (Navy) Operations
Southern Asia, 1941: Japanese Centrifugal Offensive (and Continued Operations), January-May 1942
Eastern Europe, 1941: Soviet Winter Offensive Operations, 6 December 1941-7 May 1942
North Africa, 1940: Rommels Second Offensive, 21 January-7 July 1942
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posted on
04/24/2012 4:43:09 AM PDT
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Homer_J_Simpson
("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
To: Homer_J_Simpson



Carroll V. Glines, The Doolittle Raid
In May 1943 the crew escaped from their internment through Iran Homer.
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posted on
04/24/2012 4:44:55 AM PDT
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Homer_J_Simpson
("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
To: r9etb; PzLdr; dfwgator; Paisan; From many - one.; rockinqsranch; 2banana; henkster; meandog; ...
Fliers Interned 2-3
Chinese in Danger (Post) 3-4
War News Summarized 3
Nazi Bryansk Line Cut, Russians Say 4
Russias Ominous Lull (Baldwin) 6
The Texts of the Days Communiques on Fighting in Various Zones 7-8
President Makes Doolittle a General, Has Navy Jump OHare 30 Numbers 8
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posted on
04/24/2012 4:46:31 AM PDT
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Homer_J_Simpson
("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
To: Homer_J_Simpson
Those were some REAL heroes. Bravery isn’t strong enough word for what those guys had. I can’t imagine flying one of those big slow bombers from an aircraft carrier(that alone was gutsy), and then be off to bomb the capitol city of your enemy with no real plan to get back home, and capture very likely means certain death.... Incredible!
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posted on
04/24/2012 4:47:36 AM PDT
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KoRn
(Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
To: Homer_J_Simpson
http://www.onwar.com/chrono/1942/apr42/f24apr42.htm
Baedeker guides Luftwaffe targets
Friday April 24, 1942 www.onwar.com
Bombed out cathederal in ExeterIn Britain... Luftwaffe bombers begin the “Baedeker Raids,” so named because the targets are supposedly chosen from the Baedeker Guide book of historic sites in Britain. These raids begin in response to the Allied bombing of Lubeck, which became a target when Allied Bomber Command policy cited civilian residential areas as targets. The first city to suffer the raids is Exeter.
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posted on
04/24/2012 4:52:11 AM PDT
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Homer_J_Simpson
("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
To: Homer_J_Simpson
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/andrew.etherington/frame.htm
April 24th, 1942
UNITED KINGDOM: Exeter is bombed by the Luftwaffe. This becomes the first of the so-called Baedeker Raids. They are a German response to an RAF raid on Lübeck in late March.
Woodley, Reading, Berkshire: The Miles Martinet target-tug prototype (LR 241) makes its maiden flight. (22)
GERMANY: Berlin: For as long as many of them can remember, German women have been told that their true vocation is motherhood. No longer is that the case, it seems. Under a new decree by Gauleiter Fritz Sauckel, the plenipotentiary-general for employment, they are obliged to work in industry. This means that many mothers will be working in factories for the first time - and earning some 20% less than men for doing the same jobs. The women are not happy about that - nor about the extra problems of shopping and bringing up their children.
Jews are barred from using all forms of public transport.
FINLAND: Kenraalimajuri (Major General) K. I. Viljanen, the commander of the 4th Infantry Division, is killed when inspecting the front line near Seesjürvi. Gen. Viljanen and the small party of officers accompanying him get lost and wander into a Finnish minefield. A major steps into a tripwire and is killed instantly, while Gen. Viljanen and two other officers are mortally wounded. Only one officer escapes with lighter wounds.
ARCTIC OCEAN: Soviet submarine “Sch-401” of the Polar fleet and White Sea Flotilla, is accidentally sunk, by torpedoes and depth charges of torpedo-cutters “TKA N13” and “TKA N14”, close to Cape Kumagnes Submarine “Sch-411” (uncompleted hull) - sunk by artillery fire at Leningrad (later raised)
(Sergey Anisimov)(69)
U.S.A.: The motion picture “Larceny, Inc.” is released in the U.S. Directed by Lloyd Bacon, the film stars Edward G. Robinson, Jane Wyman, Broderick Crawford, Jack Carson and Anthony Quinn with Jackie Gleason in a bit part as a soda jerk. This comedy has three ex-cons buying a luggage store so they can tunnel into a bank next door but the store prospers and........... (Jack McKillop)
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posted on
04/24/2012 4:53:25 AM PDT
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Homer_J_Simpson
("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
To: Homer_J_Simpson
So Doolittle received a promotion as a result of the Tokyo raid before the US ever admiitted responsibility for the opearation?
Neato.
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posted on
04/24/2012 5:41:30 AM PDT
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ConservativeWarrior
(Fall down 7 times, stand up 8. - Japanese proverb)
To: Homer_J_Simpson
Luftwaffe bombers begin the "Baedeker Raids," so named because the targets are supposedly chosen from the Baedeker Guide book of historic sites in Britain. Hitler is at heart a terrorist. He credits his terrorism for his success in gaining power in Germany and in conquering most of Europe. He thinks that terror bombing will intimidate the British.
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posted on
04/24/2012 8:16:33 AM PDT
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iowamark
To: Homer_J_Simpson
I've watched most of the "Missions that Changed the War" Doolittle epis, and was surprised at how bad the maintenance was at MacClellan Field.
One of the officers, maybe even Dolittle, slammed them in the "customer service survey" when they were leaving.
Might explain why when one B-25 was being hoisted onto the deck, an engine fell off.
To: iowamark
Allied Bomber Command policy cited civilian residential areas as targets. Who was the terrorist?
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posted on
04/24/2012 4:53:55 PM PDT
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PAR35
To: Calvin Locke
One has to wonder if the maintenance problems were incompetence or sabotage.
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posted on
04/24/2012 4:55:32 PM PDT
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PAR35
To: PAR35
Incompetence. IIRC, even the additional internal fuel tanks leaked from poor fabrication.
That reminds me that the OSS used the DeHaviland Mosquito for covert radio ops.
They'd fly a preplanned night route "talking" with operatives that had short range directional radios.
The radio operator in the plane was stashed in the back, on top of leaking fuel tanks, with his radio sparking merrily away while in use.
Their altitude was high enough such that there was not enough O2 to cause a problem.
To: PAR35
One has to wonder if the maintenance problems were incompetence or sabotage.
Combination of various things. Rush-job mods for a secret mission, an early-mark production aircraft ("B" models) that were having teething problems, an understanding that acknowledging problems with an aircraft would get a crew dropped from the mission, and the typical US Army "if it moves salute it, if it doesn't move paint it" mentality.
It always sounded to me that the mechanics at McClellan Field were underutilized and looking for something to do (or perhaps were being ordered to find something to do). When they found discrepancies with the aircraft they fixed it first and asked questions later. For another example, in "30 Seconds" Lawson talks about how a mechanic was caught sanding down imperfections on the Ruptured Duck's brand new propellers. Although he didn't acknowledge it in the book, Lawson (like Ski York) was in on the details of the mission from early on (even bringing his wife, Ellen, into it. Apparently Lawson and his crew also liked sneaking her aboard the Duck for their practice flights) ... and he KNEW that the sanded props were going to be exposed to salt air and water and promptly flipped out about it.
To: PAR35
During WW2, the C-46 Curtiss Commando transport was built at a factory in Louisville, located at Bowman Field (the world's largest private airfield before the war and a major training facility during the war). They would take planes fresh from the factory, assembled by men and women who were working 80-100 hour work-weeks and with little quality control, put a student pilot with 5-10 flight hours behind the wheel with an instructor who might only have 50-60 hours, and let the chaos ensue.
The front section of the Zachary Taylor National Cemetery (located just a few miles from Bowman Field) is filled with dozens of mass graves from the planes that went down during training exercises.
If something goes wrong on a veteran pilot with 400-500 hours, he could possibly recover and make an emergency landing (ie Captain Sullie). But if you have a rookie who is still learning how to fly encountering the same problems, you'd best kiss your tail goodbye.
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posted on
04/24/2012 7:32:33 PM PDT
by
Stonewall Jackson
("I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy.")
To: ConservativeWarrior
General Doolittle won the Bendix Trophy race in 1932 with a speed of 252.68 miles an hour. He had already won the Schneider Trophy race in 1925 and the Mackay Trophy in 1926.Yeah, but what's he done lately? He must know the right people in Washington.
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posted on
04/24/2012 8:03:10 PM PDT
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Homer_J_Simpson
("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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