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Weekly Gardening Thread Vol. 19 (Getting Projects Done) May 11, 2012
Friday, May 11, 2012 | JustaDumbBlonde

Posted on 05/11/2012 8:02:17 AM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde

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Photobucket Good morning FRiends and fellow gardeners!! Here's wishing all mothers and grandmothers a very joyous and beautiful Mother's Day. We rock!

It has been a very busy couple of weeks in my yard. Lots of projects going on and I was able to finish a few of them in between serious dumpings of rain. My rain gauge has registered just over 4" since Monday. We have a 50% chance of more by the first part of next week. Need to be harvesting wheat, but can't really be upset with the rain after the drought we experienced last year.

A look at the radar this morning shows blessed rain falling in Texas. I hope that everybody that needs some rain is receiving it.

The main project I've worked on for 2 weeks is placing flower beds around 4 of the 7 old oaks in my front yard, utilizing reclaimed railroad ties. Each bed contains 10 azaleas, with some assorted colorful plants added to offer something appealing until the azaleas grow and bloom next Spring.

I don't know what it is, but RR ties look HUGE when they are being loaded on your trailer, but when you dump them out next to a big oak, all of a sudden they look as small as a landscape timber. It took 2 men to move these things around. Step one: dump 8 of them by each tree.

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Next, we layed-out the first bed in the basic configuration I had been pondering in my head, and figured out how we wanted to cut them. Note: the creosote in RR ties totally ruins the chain on a chainsaw. Be prepared to sharpen the teeth every 6-8 ties, and replace the whole chain when you're done.

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After settling on the joints we would use, the ties were cut. Really happy with how the joints turned out. We have drilled 2 holes in each of the long sides and hammered a piece of rebar through the tie and about 18" into the ground. The secured ties hold the angled pieces in with the joint.

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I purchased 30 yards of soil from a friend and he delivered it right to the front yard. He dug from an area where he fed his cows for a decade or more, and the soil is rich with decayed hay and composted poo. Very loamy and absolutely gorgeous. Everything I planted should do very well.

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The four bundles of azaleas that I ordered from my very favorite nursery in Georgia. They had their patented (named) azaleas on clearance for $3 each, so I got 10 per tree. Each bundle is a different color. The colors were Lady Mildred which is purple, Peppermint which is a pink/white stripe, a red and a hot pink, neither of which names I can recall right now. The nursery takes them out of the pots and packs the roots with moisture-retaining gel. Then they ship them to me via UPS. They experienced some transplant shock when I put them in the beds, but the stems are still very much alive and green, so I have every confidence that they will recover nicely. If not, they are guaranteed and I'll get replacements when they resume shipping again in the Fall.

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Bed #1 when we got finished with it:

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Bed #2:

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Bed #3:

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Bed #4 doesn't have any accent flowers yet ... I ran out and haven't had a chance to buy any yet.

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With some soil left over from the flower beds, I moved on to my raised garden bed where I grow my lettuces and other salad makings. When I originally built this 8' x 16' bed, I filled it with potting soil, which turned out to be a poor choice. I put 100 feet of soaker hose down before I added the new soil:

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Added the soil and got it spread out nicely:

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Then I covered the soil with commercial grade landscape fabric, utilizing an old framing square to tuck in 4" on all sides.

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Got the bed finished just in time for a thunderstorm! The tucked edges, along with 5 landscape pins down the middle, kept the fabric nicely in place.

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Some of my geese, very much enjoying playing in the rain:

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Finally, I took this photo when I had one of my bee hives torn apart. This frame shows nurse bees tending everything from eggs (lower right corner area) to larvae ready to be capped until the baby bees form and emerge.

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Looking forward to hearing about your week in the yard and garden! Please check in and let everyone know what you've been up to. Photos are always appreciated and enjoyed!

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The Weekly Gardening Thread is a weekly gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you.

This thread is non-political, although you will find that most here are conservative folks. No matter what, you won’t be flamed and the only dumb question is the one that isn’t asked.

It is impossible to hijack the Weekly Gardening Thread ... there is no telling where it will go and that is part of the fun and interest. Jump in and join us!


TOPICS: Agriculture; Food; Gardening; Hobbies
KEYWORDS: bees; garden; gardening; raisedbeds
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To: Ratman83
"JDB how much soil can you put on the tree roots before it is bad for the tree?"

I don't think it will hurt the tree to cover up the roots. Two of my oaks are in a low spot, and over the years the topsoil has washed away and left roots exposed and hardpan ground that doesn't want to support grass. Putting those beds in has helped solve a couple of problems.

Where you run into trouble with trees is banking soil up against the trunk. The problem with that is you provide soil dwelling insects a new avenue to attack the tree. Additional moisture on the bark may also be a problem.

It has been mentioned downthread that the size of my trees is going to allow me to put some soil around the base without causing many problems. As the beds have settled in all of the rain, we've pulled a little away from directly touching the trunk, and there is only a couple of inches left. I have placed some insecticidal pellets in the soil around the trunk and hope that it will help, but I will keep an eye on all of the trees to make sure that no problems crop up.

61 posted on 05/12/2012 11:14:57 AM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies ... plan it.)
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To: Aliska

We have battled honeysuckle for the 15 years we have lived here. lol The lady who owned the house previously said it was planted in pots to contain it but apparently it escaped. We have found pots when digging so evidently she tried to keep it from going wild but it didn’t work.
It looks pretty on the fence and smells heavenly but it is a constant fight to try to contain it.


62 posted on 05/12/2012 11:16:55 AM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: txhurl

I would love to have one of those.


63 posted on 05/12/2012 11:23:02 AM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

I have 8 tomato plants in a 6x6 raised bed that are doing fine so far. I have another 6x6 raised bed that I need to do something with.


64 posted on 05/12/2012 11:45:14 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde
Just got though tilling up the new garden patch way out back by the next road. I am wore slam out. That tiller is a wrestling match for this old goat. But it's done now and the rest is relatively easy.
I think that I am just going to use a dripper hose on a timer rather than a drip irrigation system on this patch, at least for this year.
I told my wife to make plenty of room in the freezer and have plenty of okra recipes on hand.

Thanks again for the seeds.

65 posted on 05/12/2012 11:53:56 AM PDT by rightly_dividing
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To: kalee
Well here are the two I found around town. The pink doesn't even look like it would survive our winters. The yellow and white I found captivating but that's the one that looked invasive. It was on a fence in a different yard and cram packed on it.

The last photo was taken in 2003 and is the rose bush I used (with owner permission) to take cuttings to get my monster rose. This bloom looks quartered and pretty, took my cuttings later from different stems. My monster bush is a bit of a disappointment because the blooms do not look like this lovely one. They are like pompoms. The first year they were pretty with white outlines and more form. I don't know what causes this. The reason I keep the big rose now (I have another one on the side of the house that doesn't get enough sun) is that it provides such a nice splash of color when it does bloom, too bad these old roses only bloom in the spring.

I don't think I'll mess with Honeysuckle. I had invasive stuff before I ever started this gardening, and now I've brought in with seeds and compost some hellish stuff I'll never get rid off. We did get rid of some really nasty white, big and clumpy spreading all over clover but at a price. Careless with the chemical ruined a couple plants.

Finding old photos, uploading and posting photos is a pain. It was a lot easier when I had my own web space which I gave up due to cost. There are sure nicer photos I could post, but these illustrate what we've been talking about.

I don't know how you will ever be completly free of the honeysuckle. It's probably too tough for even RU and forms tubers and spreads way underground. Get rid of some and it pops up somewhere else. Plus the digging would be very tough work.

Honeysuckle1

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Old Rose from 2005

66 posted on 05/12/2012 11:57:10 AM PDT by Aliska
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To: Aliska

Yes the yellow and white is the type we have. We have given up trying to eradicate it and are just trying to contain it.
Your rose is very pretty. I lost a couple over the winter as well as 2 hydrangeas. Odd since our winter was so mild.


67 posted on 05/12/2012 12:05:39 PM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: rightly_dividing
I really do like caladiums, and since I was shopping for shade-loving plants, they were perfect. They were so darned expensive though. This one is my favorite:

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I also purchased some persian shields, which will be gorgeous when they mature a little. The purple should get really vibrant.

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Which of the okra varieties are you going to plant?

68 posted on 05/12/2012 1:35:24 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies ... plan it.)
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To: kalee
I found my Veronica Royal Candles but lost an aster and 2 cardinal flowers. I think it's odd, too. When I set them out I was careful to see they had enough water until frost.

My roses in front are so gorgeous, never bloomed like that before. Some I shovel pruned parts came back, can't dig as deep as I used to.

I'm sorry you're fighting that honeysuckle, thank heaven I didn't try to start one of those. I thought there were some honeysuckles that grow on bushes like pink. I think those might be ok and smell heavenly. Maybe they are something else.

Sorry about your hydrangeas. I think they do well in shade on the north side of the house as well as part sun, maybe full. Maybe it was the freezing and thawing that threw the plants off. My roses are blooming about a whole month early this year.

Most people on here do vegetable gardening. I've done that in the past with mixed results. It takes experience.

69 posted on 05/12/2012 2:23:08 PM PDT by Aliska
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To: Aliska

Gorgeous photos!


70 posted on 05/12/2012 2:44:05 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies ... plan it.)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde
We have a number of caldium colors, so far. She says she has a bunch of bulbs left, so we are going to plant them in pots to gain some size before putting them out. Maybe tomorrow I will grap some pics of her refurbished bedsand post them here.

Being noobs at okra, we will prolly start a few clemson spineless, jade, and cowhorn. I(we) turned up about an 8 X 16 or 18 patch. I figured 2 rows and room to walk between at harvesting, or possibly we may run the rows crosswise.

I am hoping that nobody will steel from us being okra.

I have mentioned that we could take out all the trees out back and have a sunny back yard for sun plants and a bigger garden. Then I could get a tracter and work a bigger plot! Actually, I just want a reason to buy a tracter. :)

71 posted on 05/12/2012 2:53:35 PM PDT by rightly_dividing (This space availible--see r_d)
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To: Petruchio

You haven’t grown them before?
Please let me know how you make out with them. I might try it. Zone 5A.

My Mother would bring a plate of veggies to us about an hour before supper. Sliced radishes, sliced kohlrabi, celery, etc., with a touch of salt on the side. Mmmm.


72 posted on 05/12/2012 4:16:45 PM PDT by fanfan (.http://www.ontariolandowners.ca/index.php?p=1_50_Your-Rights)
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To: tubebender

Does kohlrabi need a lot of water?


73 posted on 05/12/2012 4:22:37 PM PDT by fanfan (.http://www.ontariolandowners.ca/index.php?p=1_50_Your-Rights)
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To: Arrowhead1952

We got 2in from the same system as it moved though here during the night.


74 posted on 05/12/2012 5:17:06 PM PDT by rightly_dividing (This space availible--see r_d)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde
Thank you. I went out in the back to check one iris, the mowers were here and they're not very careful. A couple strolled by and complimented me on the iris, too bad they're so top heavy they topple over. Rebloomers but don't do much in that department.

Anyway I'm in awe of your place and what you've built and planted. I love that second caladium, never cared for them much but they've grown on me from the neighbors.

I guess you have a pond there and it wasn't just flooded. Those geese are wild but I guess they've made a home with you. I don't know if you can eat them or not; I'd kind of hate to kill one but they are getting out of control. Amazing because I grew up in a bird watching family and never saw one in all my years until maybe the last 10 or so.

75 posted on 05/12/2012 6:41:39 PM PDT by Aliska
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To: fanfan

This link said to keep the soil moist.

http://www.howtogardenadvice.com/vegetables/grow_kohlrabi.html


76 posted on 05/12/2012 6:45:15 PM PDT by Petruchio (I Think . . . Therefor I FReep.)
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To: Oberon

Thanks for the report on your garden! Everything sounds wonderful.


77 posted on 05/12/2012 7:35:24 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies ... plan it.)
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To: left that other site

Thank you LTOS! I appreciate your kind comments.


78 posted on 05/12/2012 7:36:19 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies ... plan it.)
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To: texas_mrs

Thank you for your kind comments and I’m glad your garden is doing well. Also, thank you for the okra info. I love okra and will definitely try some Heavy Hitter.


79 posted on 05/12/2012 7:38:07 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies ... plan it.)
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To: MichaelP

Thanks for checking in, Mike! You’ve got a yummy selection planted. I love planting season too, but enjoy eatin’ season more. :)


80 posted on 05/12/2012 7:44:13 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies ... plan it.)
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