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I bought a new shooter. Need comments, opinions
05/20/2012 | Chesty_puller

Posted on 05/20/2012 8:54:41 PM PDT by chesty_puller

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1 posted on 05/20/2012 8:54:46 PM PDT by chesty_puller
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To: chesty_puller

When you get to the point you can’t load your mags, its time to think about going back to a wheel gun. An old friend of mine accidentally shot himself in the brain trying to un load a semi auto. He was in the same situation...couldn’t hardly load a mag and could barely rack a slide.


2 posted on 05/20/2012 9:01:30 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: chesty_puller

Look into some of the MagPul or Uppala (sp?) mag loaders.

They really save time and your fingers.


3 posted on 05/20/2012 9:02:09 PM PDT by 2111USMC (Not a hard man to track. Leaves dead men wherever he goes.)
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To: chesty_puller

My dad had the early PT-145 and now the Millenium. He had to send his latest back for trigger problems. He likes it due to calliber, size and capacity.

I’m looking for a 30 round 600 Nitro pocket pistol that has sniper accuracy, low recoil and low noise. Until I find one, I guess I;ll have to compromise.


4 posted on 05/20/2012 9:03:04 PM PDT by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: chesty_puller

Yep, played with one. Hurts like hell. It’s an awfully small pistol shooting a nice fat round. Something has to give, and in this case it will be your hand.


5 posted on 05/20/2012 9:03:03 PM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: chesty_puller

“...I ran out of good concealed carry weapons...”
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Boating accident?


6 posted on 05/20/2012 9:04:00 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: chesty_puller

Specs show 22.6oz not 16


7 posted on 05/20/2012 9:09:25 PM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: chesty_puller

Get the UpLULA loader, my friend. Just....trust me.


8 posted on 05/20/2012 9:09:33 PM PDT by RightOnline (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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To: chesty_puller

Congrats on the new goody. If you want to make loading a snap, look up maglula and buy one. I think YouTube has some clips demonstrating its use. I bought one for a Hi Point .45 and it made magazine loading completely painless (and fast).


9 posted on 05/20/2012 9:11:04 PM PDT by Dratlatl
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To: chesty_puller

For an ounce more you could have gone a Glock 30, a far better piece


10 posted on 05/20/2012 9:11:38 PM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: chesty_puller
I'm looking seriously at a Beretta PX4 Storm in 9mm myself as a CC piece. Fits my hand just right. Supposed to have a barrel line closer the grip to lower the "snap" of recoil. I like my wife's Smith & Wesson M&P 9mm compact, great sight picture etc. I can shoot it far more accurately than logic says I should. But it just doesn't sit well in my hand.

Says ThunderSleeps, is currently doing all the paperwork to get his CC permit...

11 posted on 05/20/2012 9:12:24 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Java4Jay
you could have gone a Glock 30, I looked at the 40 cal Glocks. Never liked them. Too much plastic and too many aholes shoot them.
12 posted on 05/20/2012 9:18:51 PM PDT by chesty_puller (Viet Nam 1970-71 He who shed blood with me shall forever be my brother. Shak.)
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To: chesty_puller
Quick, tell the Freddy’s all about your firearms America!
13 posted on 05/20/2012 9:19:58 PM PDT by paratrooper82 (We are kicking Ass in Afghanistan, soon we will be home to kick some more Asses in Congress!)
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To: chesty_puller

...or the Slimline Glock 36, a single stack 45 ACP at 27 oz. loaded.


14 posted on 05/20/2012 9:21:59 PM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: Dratlatl

I bought a red dot for my AR and should have got a loader. Thanks. Cabelas in Ft Worth was packed. Election soon maybe?


15 posted on 05/20/2012 9:22:32 PM PDT by chesty_puller (Viet Nam 1970-71 He who shed blood with me shall forever be my brother. Shak.)
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To: Java4Jay

You are correct Sir.


16 posted on 05/20/2012 9:24:17 PM PDT by chesty_puller (Viet Nam 1970-71 He who shed blood with me shall forever be my brother. Shak.)
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To: chesty_puller

I own 3 handguns for concealed carry.

~Smith & Wesson Model 36 snub-nosed revolver chambered for .38 Special
~Ruger SP-101 snub-nosed revolver chambered for .38 Special
~Taurus “Millennium Pro” PT-111 chambered for 9x19mm

All three are convenient to carry, reliable, chamber an effective defense cartridge, and have an adequate amount of support from aftermarket vendors of holsters & accessories.


17 posted on 05/20/2012 9:26:02 PM PDT by moonshot925
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To: chesty_puller

Chesty, I think the Taurus will be a nice weapon for you. I have two handguns, one a S&W .44 mag for when I am up in the foothills, and the other a Rueger 9mm.

Actually also have an S&W .38 special...but my wife keeps both the S&Ws for herself most of the time...hehehe...and she is a crack shot with them too.

As our old FReeper friend harpseal (RIP) used to say, Stay Safe, Stay Armed, Stay Free...Yorktown!


18 posted on 05/20/2012 9:28:42 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: 2111USMC; chesty_puller

Might I recommend the Butler Creek loader? This thing is well-built and really saves your fingers...

http://www.amazon.com/Butler-Creek-Universal-Pistol-Loader/dp/B001HBHNHE/ref=sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1337574491&sr=8-1-spell

You can use it for any caliber magazine from 9mm to .45 ACP.

When I got a 31-rd .40S&W Glock mag, I could only load 16 rounds by hand...then I got this baby, and the last round goes in as easy as the 10th.


19 posted on 05/20/2012 9:31:09 PM PDT by Zeppelin (Keep on FReepin' on...)
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To: chesty_puller
>>but not accurate enough<<

>>the mags are hell to load<<

It's time for Crimson Trace Laser Grips.

20 posted on 05/20/2012 9:31:34 PM PDT by B4Ranch (There's Two Choices... Stand Up and Be Counted ... Or Line Up and Be Numbered .)
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To: chesty_puller
I bought a very nice Taurus Millennium PT 145 tonight. It carries 10+1 45ACP and is incredibly small. Weighs in at 16oz empty.

Seems like the recoil'd be a bitch. How is it to shoot?

21 posted on 05/20/2012 9:33:11 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: chesty_puller
It was about $400 and shoooo is purdy.

You got a good deal!

MSRP: $483.00

22 posted on 05/20/2012 9:35:38 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: chesty_puller

A tool to help load mags isn’t expensive.


23 posted on 05/20/2012 9:38:09 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: chesty_puller

For a second I though you were talking about the shot glass used for alcohol not a gun.


24 posted on 05/20/2012 9:40:21 PM PDT by Republican1795.
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To: chesty_puller

Congrats on the new gun. I still think my .40 Glock 23 is about the ideal carry gun but I still like to shoot .357 Magnum at the range in the 686.


25 posted on 05/20/2012 9:44:18 PM PDT by MtBaldy (If Obama is the answer, it must have been a really stupid question)
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To: chesty_puller

My current carry gun is a springfield SD .40 sub compact with night sights and a powder river trigger. It is great


26 posted on 05/20/2012 9:45:48 PM PDT by oldenuff2no
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To: oldenuff2no
Make that XD.40. My eyes are great it is my fingers that are screwed up. The powder river fixes the XD’s trigger problems. It now trips at just under 3 lbs with very little over travel and almost not forward travel to reengage the sear. It took some doing but I like it better than the Glock 23.
27 posted on 05/20/2012 9:51:01 PM PDT by oldenuff2no
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To: B4Ranch
It's time for Crimson Trace Laser Grips.

OK Buttjuice, you have me driving back to Ft Worth in the morning,,,,maybe I can wait for payday.

28 posted on 05/20/2012 9:59:12 PM PDT by chesty_puller (Viet Nam 1970-71 He who shed blood with me shall forever be my brother. Shak.)
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To: B4Ranch
It's time for Crimson Trace Laser Grips.

OK Buttjuice, you have me driving back to Ft Worth in the morning,,,,maybe I can wait for payday.

29 posted on 05/20/2012 10:03:21 PM PDT by chesty_puller (Viet Nam 1970-71 He who shed blood with me shall forever be my brother. Shak.)
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To: chesty_puller

The LaserGrips have me double posting.


30 posted on 05/20/2012 10:04:55 PM PDT by chesty_puller (Viet Nam 1970-71 He who shed blood with me shall forever be my brother. Shak.)
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To: chesty_puller

As far as the mag loading issue, more and more I’ve seen new innovative products that make loading a snap. Glock includes such a device with most of their handguns.

Maybe you can find a similar tool?


31 posted on 05/20/2012 10:07:13 PM PDT by fwdude
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To: chesty_puller

I carry a 38sp 5 shot wheel gun but not accurate enough.


Same here. I’m keeping it but looking for something else.


32 posted on 05/20/2012 10:15:40 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: unkus
I will be most interested in an after report, after you have fired a mag or two through the Taras. Until then I will just keep with my Gold Cup in a shoulder holster.
33 posted on 05/20/2012 10:43:05 PM PDT by BooBoo1000 (I don't know what the future holds, but I know who holds my future.,)
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To: BooBoo1000

Will do.


34 posted on 05/20/2012 10:45:56 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: Repeal The 17th
“...I ran out of good concealed carry weapons...”
- Boating accident?

I have had that happen to me several times.
35 posted on 05/20/2012 10:46:45 PM PDT by wjcsux ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: chesty_puller

Taurus makes a fine weapon. My night stand gun is a 6 inch bbl Taurus .357.


36 posted on 05/20/2012 11:11:49 PM PDT by BigCinBigD
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To: chesty_puller
I like large weapons. Glocks are good stuff but I just can not shoot well, with the plastic light weight pistols. In addition they are ugly ugly ugly.

I tried several rigs (borrowed from friends) and did not find one that I liked for a large pistol. For the last several years I have been using a quick opening shoulder bag that looks like a camera bag. My full sized 1911 45ACP or High-power 9mm Browning Parabellum both carry well in my bag.

37 posted on 05/20/2012 11:18:25 PM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: chesty_puller

Save the fuel. Them ragheads have enough of our money.

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38 posted on 05/20/2012 11:25:04 PM PDT by B4Ranch (There's Two Choices... Stand Up and Be Counted ... Or Line Up and Be Numbered .)
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To: B4Ranch

Thank you, my Grips will be here by Thursday
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39 posted on 05/20/2012 11:55:29 PM PDT by chesty_puller (Viet Nam 1970-71 He who shed blood with me shall forever be my brother. Shak.)
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I have a friend that does that. Mine would be found on the urinal somewhere. My mind went before the hands,
40 posted on 05/20/2012 11:58:32 PM PDT by chesty_puller (Viet Nam 1970-71 He who shed blood with me shall forever be my brother. Shak.)
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To: chesty_puller
I bought the Taurus PT145 Millenium Pro (third Generation) back in 2009. The weapon came with an inexpensive plastic magazine speed loader.

If yours did not then you can go to CheaperThanDirt.com (CTD) and get one for around four bucks. It is the ADCO Superthumb and works really well. I had to buy one for the PT111 Millenium Pro I bought for my wife's concealed carry gun and one for my Ruger LCP. For some reason Taurus only supplies the speed loader with the 45ACP and not the 9mm or the 40S&W ( own one of each weapon).

I tried to find one of the fancier HKS loaders at CTD but after buying four different models that did not work with my Taurus I just kept using the Taurus supplied loader.

By the way. Go on-line and find the Federal Law Enforcement 230grain Hydra-Shok cartridges. The FBI says they are still the best single shot stop bullet made, although there are many others that are almost as effective.

41 posted on 05/21/2012 1:59:34 AM PDT by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: Still Thinking
Seems like the recoil'd be a bitch. How is it to shoot?

I have had my PT145 MP since 2009 and have fired well over 5000 rounds through it.

I can run two or three hundred rounds through it in one session and not have any pain but I have been shooting since I was a child and I love firearms.

I have three different Millenium Pros and they all have had one bizarre problem: I bought over 1000 rounds of Speer Law Enforcement TMJ ammo for each of them to use at the range. I got a great deal on the ammo. Anyway, at 15 to 20 yards the groups were all low left about four inches. They did the same when my wife, daughter,son and daughter's boyfriend fired them. I took out a box of bulk Winchesters purchased at Walmart and the things were dead on target in the black. I bought some for the other pistols and the same thing happened.

My reloads all print in the black and so do the actual defense rounds we use for concealed carry. The Speers all print funny.

42 posted on 05/21/2012 2:09:59 AM PDT by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: OldMissileer
There is a cheap loader in the case. THANK YOU! All problems served in less than $300 and 50 responses. We have to keep this site alive!
43 posted on 05/21/2012 3:39:09 AM PDT by chesty_puller (Viet Nam 1970-71 He who shed blood with me shall forever be my brother. Shak.)
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To: OldMissileer
I checked the case and found a cheap loader. No one advized that I remove my head from my ass first. I can get 19 rounds in before I through it across the room. Should be good, I never fired below Expert in the Corps.$225 for the LaserGrips on the way and I have a pretty fine defense weapon. Thank you all, life is good.

I could have save money with tactical Tupperware but, I don't shoot Glocks, use Apples or drive BMWs. That was fun, thanks again.

44 posted on 05/21/2012 4:10:04 AM PDT by chesty_puller (Viet Nam 1970-71 He who shed blood with me shall forever be my brother. Shak.)
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Next week Boys and Girls we reroute the gas system to remove the front sites on the AR15 for the Red-Dot.
45 posted on 05/21/2012 4:14:02 AM PDT by chesty_puller (Viet Nam 1970-71 He who shed blood with me shall forever be my brother. Shak.)
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To: 2111USMC; chesty_puller

Second the MagPul UpLula magazine loader. About $25-30 .
http://www.maglula.com/PistolMagLoaders/UpLULA9mmto45ACPmags.aspx

Works like a champ on just about any single or double stack mag.


46 posted on 05/21/2012 4:43:40 AM PDT by Vinnie (A)
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To: chesty_puller

I got my wife a Taurus Slim 9mm. It’s small enough to conceal and has less of a kick than a .45. Define “not accurate enough” - for self-defense, if you can put all the rounds in a 9” circle (we use paper plates as targets) at 25’, it’s accurate enough. I prefer the autos because you can carry extra, pre-loaded magazines. All autos can be hard to get the last shell or two into the mag and those with the extra size magazines can be even harder to top off. I have a Kahr P-380 with 6-shot mags because it’s small enough for a pocket. At 25’ it shoots about 2-1/2” low and left, but I can adjust for it if trying to center my shots. However, in a self-defense situation it would just be point and shoot and being able to hit the body mass in a 1’ area is more than enough accuracy - I load it up with Hornady Critical Defense rounds, so a dead center hit is not required. It’s a balamnce between what you can handle comfortably and utility - only you can make the decision.


47 posted on 05/21/2012 5:00:01 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: Repeal The 17th

Mine also.


48 posted on 05/21/2012 5:12:04 AM PDT by bmwcyle (I am ready to serve Jesus on Earth because the GOP failed again)
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To: oldenuff2no

Mine is the same model with the CT laserguard. I really like that pistol.


49 posted on 05/21/2012 5:15:17 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: chesty_puller

I don’t have an answer for you but I bet “Gecko45” does.

Expert in all things tactical, he makes for an interesting read: http://lonelymachines.org/mall-ninjas/

Enjoy.


50 posted on 05/21/2012 5:59:40 AM PDT by Hulka
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