Posted on 06/01/2012 2:32:10 PM PDT by dynachrome
So, to help clarify a more fundamental approach to choosing a survival retreat, here is a list of priorities that cannot be overlooked:
Property Placement
You may be searching for a homestead property or a more discreet retreat area for only the most violent disasters. In either case, property placement should be your number one concern. Where is your subject property located? What are the strengths and weaknesses, economically, socially, and legally, in the state you are considering. What is the disposition of the government and law enforcement in the county your retreat resides in? What kind of environment are you surrounding yourself with? These are all very important issues to consider.
Even more important, though, are the dynamics of the land you are choosing. Are you looking for a typical flat piece of developed farmland with easy access to roads and town amenities? Then you are going about this all wrong. Are you purchasing a cabin in the woods where you and your family will be isolated and alone? Again, not very bright.
The ideal retreat location is a combination of rugged terrain and varied topography that is just accessible enough, and set in proximity to like minded neighbors who will aid each other in the advent of a social implosion.
(Excerpt) Read more at alt-market.com ...
ping.
“Survivalism is not a product of insanity; it is merely a product of our precarious times. “
>> “and set in proximity to like minded neighbors who will aid each other in the advent of a social implosion.” <<
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Don’t count on it.
Will head a bit South to the family if the SHTF. Took the son down last fall to do some scouting for elk. They had a couple of permits. Dad tells me I'm riding with my Uncle. They drop me off over there. My Uncle has all 4 doors on his pickup open and he's pawing under the drivers seat with one hand, rifle in the other. I said "What are you doing?" He said "Looking for a box of shells". I said "For which gun?" "The 7mm mag." (The one he is holding). I asked him if he had any bullets for the OTHER 3 RIFLES (ONE ON THE DASH, ONE ON THE BACK SEAT, AND ONE ON THE PASSENGER SIDE PLUS THE .44 MAGNUM ON THE CONSOLE. He says oh yah, a couple of boxes for each, BUT I ONLY HAVE 3 (bullets) for the 7mm!
/johnny
>> Are you looking for a typical flat piece of developed farmland with easy access to roads and town amenities? Then you are going about this all wrong.
Maybe, maybe not.
We picked a nice piece of rolling farmland with fairly easy access to town.
If things get a little rocky to fairly rocky, economic-wise — and I view that as the most LIKELY scenario — we’ll at least be able to feed ourselves.
In the (IMO) UNLIKELY event that things really go to hell in a handbasket and armed zombies are roaming the countryside raping and pillaging, well then, we’ll probably die defending our place. So be it.
Living in a silo or a mountain cave, surrounded by other crackpots who prefer silos and mountain caves, is nuts. What kind of life is that, anyway?
You tailor your ammo and weapon to what you are hunting.
And you tailor what you hunt to ammo that you have. ;)
/johnny
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You can kill big game with a little .22. You just have to be very, very quiet.
You would get a hoot out of my uncle. We were bouncing around my other uncle’s field..ummm...one evening and it is all I can do to not stick that rifle barrel through the windshield. I says “Can I put this case of beer under my feet in the back?” He says “That’s a case of dynamite. Best just keep your feet on it....”
I LOVE lizard stew!
Most evident is the lack of attention to communication, ability to get news, medical and health issues, notably issues of fuel, electricity, generators and antennas. Many will be lost without the internet - alternatives exist, but no mention of them.
You can run and hide in the hills, but that can be more dangerous than being near small remote towns where like-minded folks provide support and assistance.
“like-minded folks’
probably one of the most important factors.
Probably the best bet, with a lot of research and expertise, would be to recondition part of an abandoned mine, of the right kind of mine. To put this in perspective, the shaft mines at multiple levels in the mountains around Bisbee, Arizona, amount to some 2,500 miles of tunnels.
http://www.queenminetour.com/history.php
There being so very much of this potential dwelling space, you can really pick and choose, a very important thing to do because the *wrong* kind of abandoned mine is incredibly dangerous and deadly.
In any event, once you have selected the appropriate horizontal shaft, you can line it with 8’ to 12’ diameter Fiberglass Reinforced Polyester (FRP) pipe. It needs to be larger than you would think because of the advantages of having a flat floor and walls. You can also have smaller pipes under the floor, and pipe conduit behind the walls
the funny part about all this “doomsday prep” ...
you will never be quite prepared for when it happens.
I know an idiot that purchased remote land away from the city. I reminded him that even in a “little SHTF” he will have difficulty getting there.
I had to remind this dope that both he and I were stranded in NYC not on one but two occassions. 9-11 and the mini blackout. I wound up getting home on both days but only after hours of being stuck in manhattan.
Our hero wanted to swim aross the East River on 9-11 to get to his farm in Connecticut - was a boob!
Lot of good that 500 gallon tank of fuel and that shed full of MRE’s will do you if you get stranded because Mass Transit is shut down. LOL!
I can go on and on about how during the mini-black-out Mr Doom Prep wound-up sleeping in the lobby of his office because he was “stuck” in NYC. He didn’t even have enough pocket change for the snack machines! LOL!
Imagine if the big one hits and you are in Disney World or someplace stupid... LOL!
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