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1930s photos show Greenland glaciers retreating faster than today ( it was no big deal then)
The Register ^ | 2nd June 2012 09:07 GMT | Lewis Page

Posted on 06/02/2012 9:18:15 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Recently unearthed photographs taken by Danish explorers in the 1930s show glaciers in Greenland retreating faster than they are today, according to researchers.

Danish explorers in Greenland in 1932. Credit: National Survey and Cadastre of Denmark

We're not worried about rising sea levels. Well, we are in a seaplane.

The photos in question were taken by the seventh Thule Expedition to Greenland led by Dr Knud Rasmussen in 1932. The explorers were equipped with a seaplane, which they used to take aerial snaps of glaciers along the Arctic island's coasts.

After the expedition returned the photographs were used to make maps and charts of the area, then placed in archives in Denmark where they lay forgotten for decades. Then, in recent years, international researchers trying to find information on the history of the Greenland glaciers stumbled across them.

Taken together the pictures show clearly that glaciers in the region were melting even faster in the 1930s than they are today, according to Professor Jason Box, who works at the Byrd Polar Research Center at Ohio State uni.

There's much scientific interest in the Greenland ice sheet, as unlike most of the Arctic ice cap it sits on land: thus if it were to melt, serious sea level rises could occur (though the latest research says that this doesn't appear to be on the cards).

It's difficult to know exactly what's happening to the Greenland ice in total and very different estimates have been produced in recent times. However Professor Box says that many glaciers along the coasts have started retreating in the past decade.

It now appears that the glaciers were retreating even faster eighty years ago: but nobody worried about it, and the ice subsequently came back again. Box theorises that this is likely to be because of sulphur pollution released into the atmosphere by humans, especially by burning coal and fuel oils. This is known to have a cooling effect.

Unfortunately atmospheric sulphur emissions also cause other things such as acid rain, and as a result rich Western nations cracked down on sulphates in the 1960s. Prof Box believes that this led to warming from the 1970s onward, which has now led to the glaciers retreating since around 2000.

Other scientists have said recently that late-20th-century temperature rises in the Arctic may result largely from clean-air legislation intended to deal with acid rain: some have even gone so far as to suggest that rapid coal- and diesel-fuelled industrialisation in China is serving to prevent further warming right now.

Still other scientists, differing with Prof Box, offer another picture altogether of Arctic temperatures, in which there were peaks both in the 1930s and 1950s and cooling until the 1990s: and in which the warming trend which resulted in the melting seen by Rasmussen's expedition actually started as early as 1840, before the industrial revolution and human-driven carbon emission had even got rolling. In that scenario, variations in the Sun seem to have much more weight than is generally accepted by today's climatologists.

At any rate, the new information from the old Danish pictures adds some more data to the subject. The new study by Box and his co-authors is published by Nature Geoscience, here. ®

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Science; Weather
KEYWORDS: climatechange; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; greenland

1 posted on 06/02/2012 9:18:23 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: SunkenCiv
Thanks to Sunkenciv for this link:

Discovery of Historical Photos Sheds Light On Greenland Ice Loss

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This historical photograph is part of a set of newly discovered images from explorer Knud Rasmussen's expedition to the southeast coast of Greenland in the early 1930s. Researchers are studying the images to learn more about how glaciers respond to climate change. (Credit: Image courtesy of the National Survey and Cadastre of Denmark)

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ScienceDaily (May 29, 2012) — A chance discovery of 80-year-old photo plates in a Danish basement is providing new insight into how Greenland glaciers are melting today.

2 posted on 06/02/2012 9:25:13 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

It is interesting that in text books printed in the 1970s and earlier, the present day glaciers in the Sierra Nevada of California were said to have been created during the mini-ice age (400 to 150 years ago) as the original glaciers melted some 9,000 years ago after the Ice Age ended. Now enviromentalist groups say the glaciers are melting due to “Global Warming” though I live near them, look at them every day, and have seen no visible retreat of the glaciers myself.


3 posted on 06/02/2012 9:37:39 AM PDT by Inyo-Mono (My greatest fear is that when I'm gone my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

bfl

Thanks, by the way...


4 posted on 06/02/2012 9:38:44 AM PDT by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

———In that scenario, variations in the Sun seem to have much more weight than is generally accepted by today’s climatologists.———

No way possible that the SUN has anything to do with global climate changes.... / S

In 100 years from today gobal warming fear mongering will be equated with flat earth fear mongering.....

These people like Al Gore should put in prison for treason against the american people


5 posted on 06/02/2012 11:51:53 AM PDT by Popman (When you elect a clown: expect a circus...)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
It was the late 1800’s suv’s spreading CO2 into the atmosphere.
6 posted on 06/02/2012 11:59:54 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (We are the 53%. 47% of Americans pay no taxes; end the free ride...)
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To: All; TigerLikesRooster; landsbaum; Signalman; NormsRevenge; steelyourfaith; Lancey Howard; ...
New Alarm on colliding Galaxies....see text:

Universe has more hydrogen than we thought (Undark’ matter hidden in plain view)

7 posted on 06/02/2012 1:06:15 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?)
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To: Big Giant Head

:)


8 posted on 06/02/2012 1:07:39 PM PDT by Marie Antoinette (:)
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To: HereInTheHeartland
It was the late 1800’s suv’s spreading CO2 into the atmosphere.

Yah, they were so much less efficient, and smoked a lot.

9 posted on 06/02/2012 4:07:35 PM PDT by Big Giant Head
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

62 and raining in normally red hot Sacramento.


10 posted on 06/04/2012 1:24:55 PM PDT by TauntedTiger (Keep away from the fence!)
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