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Posted on 06/12/2012 2:57:35 PM PDT by saminfl

I have a new Dell desktop with Windows 7 operating system. There are certain features about that system i hate, such as Windows Live mail. Can I install the hard drive from my old Dell Desktop with XP Professional into a vacant slot and boot from that when i want to?


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To: OrangeHoof

How does Mozilla Thunderbird compare with Gmail?


41 posted on 06/13/2012 4:41:54 AM PDT by PapaNew
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To: the invisib1e hand

Wasn’t XP conceived and created while Bill Gates fingerprints were still all over Microsoft?


42 posted on 06/13/2012 4:44:31 AM PDT by PapaNew
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To: martin_fierro

That’s funny.


43 posted on 06/13/2012 4:48:25 AM PDT by PapaNew
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To: saminfl

Why not use Mozilla Thunderbird as your default mail client? Or just eschew a local mail client altogether and use the online interfaces? Going back to WinXP will open you up to a host of compatibility and security issues. Win7 is a good OS.


44 posted on 06/13/2012 4:52:36 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: mupcat
Speaking of computers and Tech help, I wonder if it'd be possible to have a computer help forum---or maybe we do and I just haven't seen it?

You're on it. Shadowace is the keeper of the list. Freepmail him and ask to be added. My post was to notify him of this thread so he could make the rest of the list aware of it so they could join in the discussion if they wish.

45 posted on 06/13/2012 7:07:34 AM PDT by CedarDave (Voted for Newt last Tuesday in New Mexico -- too bad he's thrown in with Mittens)
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To: saminfl
Trying to boot Windows on different hardware from an old disk is problematic and IMO ultimately futire. Even if Windows does succeed and reconfigure itself and come up, it will run slower after it manages to rejigger everything. And you'll have continuing issues with activation and licensing, on Windows and any apps that key off the old hardware.

I've done it in the past. It's painful, not pretty, and overall it's a lot easier to just bite the bullet and deal with the new system as such. At least in my experience.

46 posted on 06/13/2012 7:56:00 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: saminfl

Install Windows Virtual PC and Run XP Mode. Outlook express is there, however I have no problems with Windows Live. I do use XP Mode for a couple of apps that won’t run in Windows 7.


47 posted on 06/13/2012 8:36:37 AM PDT by w1andsodidwe (Barrak has now won the contest. He is even worse than Jimmah.)
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To: saminfl
While what you are asking is technically possible, it is not advisable.

Understand that if your machine is a 64bit box, and your old XP system is 32bit (which is likely), you will certainly lose performance, and that in a very noticeable way, as XP will not be able to use the full capability of the CPU, and will only be able to use 3 gigs of RAM - This is not necessarily a game-changer, but it is certainly not the best scenario - You will want to be able to use the machine to it's full capacity.

If you still want to move forward, it would certainly be best to pay a service tech to do the retrofit, and it will probably save you a lot of headaches. This is not an easy thing to do.

Before even beginning, do the research to figure out whether XP drivers are available for that specific machine... You can do that by looking the machine up on dell to see if Dell provides legacy drivers for it. I will bet you dollars to donuts that XP drivers are not available, as that is most often the case. If the drivers are not available, you are just boned.

Then one must be sure that the old drive will fit the new slot - one may be a PATA (old) style drive, while the new box will certainly be a SATA (new style drive) - If your old drive doesn't fit, the work is doubled... still technically possible, but one would have to obtain a drive that would work, and image your old drive onto it - A pretty technical adventure for one who is uninitiated.

Lastly, while one can hack the registry from Safe Mode to remove the vestiges of your old machine drivers, allowing the box to detect new hardware on boot, it is never the best way to do it - A clean install is proper, and most likely to be a successful process. So IF you do decide to retrograde the system, starting from scratch install would be my recommendation. You will need the XP key from your old machine, and an XP setup disk (probably OEM, must know if XP64 or XP32)... and if your old hard drive will not bolt, another hard drive to use.

DO NOT use the current (new) hard drive in any circumstance (unless of course, you are continuing to use it as a WIN7 box), as it contains the information to put the machine back to it's original factory package - something you will probably want, at least to restore it to pristine for resale purposes.

And finally, I would encourage you to move forward with Win7 as XP is now a legacy system - Even if you can shoehorn it into the present box, the next box you get will almost certainly not be able to use XP, and you may well be on an even steeper learning curve with Windows 8 (or 9, 10, etc) than you already have with Win7. Time waits for no man.

Try moving your mail to Mozilla Thunderbird, which will be more likely to remain relatively unchanged between windows iterations, and even between operating system platforms (works in Linux too). In any case, it is not a good idea to stay in Outlook Express (which you probably used in XP), as it has known exploits, and is not able to defend against some viruses.

If you used Outlook rather than Outlook Express, then all this is for naught, as all you need to do is install Office and move your .pst file from the old to the new, and you will be right where you were, but on the new machine and in Win7 :)

48 posted on 06/13/2012 8:40:12 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: saminfl

My work just gave me a new computer w/ Win 7 Pro.
Hate it. Esp Office Outlook.

Yesterday I logged off the network back to my C drive. Black screen w/ icons.
My pretty desktop gone. Down in the tray was a notification..
‘The Windows you are running is not genuine’. Huh ??
Rebooted. A panel appears ‘ The Copy of Windows is counterfeit.”
That is baloney ! Took the IT guy about an hour to get it going.
Long for XP.
But then I come home, fire up the Mac and all is well.


49 posted on 06/13/2012 8:44:58 AM PDT by Vinnie (A)
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To: saminfl
No, you cannot. The WinXP must be installed on the PC so that drivers for your particular devices can be loaded and installed.

If the XP on the drive you want to use was installed on a different PC then your devices will not work properly. Even if it did, you would have an issue with XP wanting to re-activate because all you hardware has changed.

You would be better off running XP in a virtual machine from within Win7. I believe Win7 has Microsoft Virtual PC already on it. Just make a VM and install your WinXP on it. You may have to re-activate. That's a much slicker solution.

50 posted on 06/13/2012 8:55:19 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (My dog, yes. My wife, maybe. My gun....NEVER!)
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To: Cyber Liberty

I have an ASUS motherboard from about 2002 that has a bios that will let you boot to any disk he sees during POST.

Can’t boot to a thumb drive, though...
:-(


51 posted on 06/13/2012 8:58:54 AM PDT by djf ("There are more old drunkards than old doctors." - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: PieterCasparzen
Well, the drive will be the same, it will be the same O/S and same drive that ran fine on the old machine. What are the other basics - keyboard, mouse, video. Should be fine, IMHO.

Lots of other things can be different - the chipset, onboard video, network adapter, sound, etc... The new system might have USB 3.0, while the old system probably had USB 2.0, etc.

If the video is still a problem - take the old card out of the old machine, install it in the new one. Plug the old monitor into it. Now you've got the same video hardware on the new machine.

You are assuming that the system has a separate video card. Most systems today have the video, sound, USB and network all integrated into the motherboard. I like Linux as well, but that is not what the poster's question was about. I still stand by my statement - if he wants XP on the new machine, he should do a clean install, assuming XP drivers are available from Dell for the new machine.

52 posted on 06/13/2012 9:25:37 AM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: PapaNew
How does Mozilla Thunderbird compare with Gmail?

They're different. Gmail is housed by Google so your e-mails are stored on Goodle servers, not your own PC. The same is true with Hotmail or Yahoo mail. Most people have internet access through an ISP (your cable company, DSL company, etc.) and the e-mail is housed on their servers.

What Outlook, Thunderbird, Calypso and other programs do is allow you to access those e-mails quickly and store the e-mails on your own PC. My present ISP is Clear who is actually subleasing server space from Google. I also have Gmail, Yahoo and Hotmail accounts for various purposes.

What Thunderbird does is, in one command, check all your e-mail accounts and downloads them to your PC where you can read them and store them yourself plus lets you keep a universal address book on your PC where you can send e-mails to anyone in the book to any of the e-mail accounts you subscribe to.

If your internet is always connected (such as cable modem or DSL), you can also program Thunderbird to be "always on" where it automatically checks and downloads e-mails when they are sent to you.

It is also a good idea to have an anti-virus or two scanning your e-mails and set up some anti-spamming options.

53 posted on 06/13/2012 9:31:23 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (Our economy won't heal until one particular black man is unemployed.)
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To: CedarDave

Thanks CedarDave. I just thought since this is a political forum this would not be the area to address computer problems, and hoped there might be a place like chat,General interest, Smokey Backroom etc. which could be devoted to computer questions and answers. I’m sure lots of us could us the help.


54 posted on 06/13/2012 10:16:49 AM PDT by mupcat
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To: mupcat

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/computers-chat/index


55 posted on 06/13/2012 12:08:42 PM PDT by CedarDave (Voted for Newt last Tuesday in New Mexico -- too bad he's thrown in with Mittens)
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To: PapaNew

don’t know but I dread any other version.


56 posted on 06/13/2012 12:56:33 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (they have no god but caesar)
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To: CedarDave

Ask and ye shall receive. Thanks CedarDave, I didn’t know that existed.


57 posted on 06/13/2012 2:50:53 PM PDT by mupcat
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To: CedarDave

Thanks,CedarDave-—I’m having a Microsoft Outlook 2010 problem and I wanted to see if anyone uses that program that could help. I’ll Freepmail Shadowace.


58 posted on 06/14/2012 3:26:07 PM PDT by mupcat
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