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Help with 501c's - Vanity
USPS | 7/06/12 | me

Posted on 07/06/2012 9:45:02 AM PDT by texas_mrs

My parents are donating daily to these people. My father has Parkinson's & is SO worried about 0bama ruining the country that he donates to nearly everything he gets. Fortunately, my Mom gives the mail to me and I select (with her approval) which ones are forwarded, saving them a pile of money & more mail that is caused by each donation. Today I have FOURTEEN of them!


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: 501c; donations; frauds; scams
I cannot possibly spend my day looking up every organization that contacts them. Can anyone help me sort out which are admirable and which ones just pocket the money and send another request? Is there some website that tells which ones actually use the money for it's supposed purpose?
1 posted on 07/06/2012 9:45:06 AM PDT by texas_mrs
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To: texas_mrs
www.ris.gov.

Basically, if you run a 501(c)3 you must open your books. I'm sure someone out there collects that info, but I'm not sure if your should trust the information they give.

2 posted on 07/06/2012 9:47:45 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: texas_mrs
www.irs.gov.

Basically, if you run a 501(c)3 you must open your books. I'm sure someone out there collects that info, but I'm not sure if your should trust the information they give.

3 posted on 07/06/2012 9:47:58 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: texas_mrs
I get that many a day, and round-file them all.

Save yourself the stress and do the same.

Pick a couple of worthy ones and send them a check once or twice a year, regardless of those mailings.

I swear, if I give to an organization, it seems they spend every sent I sent them asking for more.

4 posted on 07/06/2012 9:47:58 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: texas_mrs

An organization that was created for a specific purpose (a short-term goal) is usually a good one. The long term ones exist in order to make money for themselves. The bigger the organization, the greater the fraud.


5 posted on 07/06/2012 9:51:55 AM PDT by JimWayne
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To: texas_mrs

Reduce them all to the Wounded Warrior Project and you will do a world of good.


6 posted on 07/06/2012 9:53:38 AM PDT by RC2 (Buy American and support the Wounded Warrior Project whenever possible.)
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To: texas_mrs
I cannot possibly spend my day looking up every organization that contacts them. Can anyone help me sort out which are admirable and which ones just pocket the money and send another request? Is there some website that tells which ones actually use the money for it's supposed purpose?

The IRS won't tell you if they put the $ to good use. Google "Guidestar".

7 posted on 07/06/2012 9:54:29 AM PDT by montag813
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Exactly! I tell Dad that, but he thinks it's the only thing he can do to help. Most of them have a form to fill out asking what things are bothering you about the country, then the next request will include some horrific story that centers around the topic(s) you've selected, which, of course, makes the recipient MORE likely to send money.

It's a scam! One of the worst seems to be "Council of Seniors". They do NOTHING, but they send the MOST requests. Sometimes Dad even gets berated for not sending money!
8 posted on 07/06/2012 9:55:11 AM PDT by texas_mrs
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
I swear, if I give to an organization, it seems they spend every sent I sent them asking for more.

That really irks me to no end. I do not donate to them again.

9 posted on 07/06/2012 9:55:11 AM PDT by rightly_dividing (We are Scott Walker.)
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To: JimWayne
That is not necessarily true. I am associated with a number of 501(c)3's that pay their executives and board members peanuts, and have been around for decades.

It is true that you must research where your donations are going.

10 posted on 07/06/2012 9:58:11 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: montag813
The IRS won't tell you if they put the $ to good use.

The IRS will give you the information, and you must figure out the rest.

11 posted on 07/06/2012 9:59:46 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: texas_mrs
Don't give money to any group; assume they are all scams.

Then look at ones you can work with directly and maybe support one of those groups.
Don't put your money somewhere unless you can be directly involved in helping.

12 posted on 07/06/2012 10:05:21 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland ("The writing is on the wall - Unions are screwed. reformist2 10:04 PM #27")
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To: texas_mrs
When replying to these groups, you should also include a note telling them not to share your father's name, address, etc with other groups.

Non-profits sell & trade their membership lists with each other all the time.

If they refuse or ignore the request, stop donating.

13 posted on 07/06/2012 10:08:35 AM PDT by gdani
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To: texas_mrs

Berated for not sending money- unbelievable. Reminds me of the time I was placed on the mailing list of a Christian ministry, and once received a fund raising letter from the founder’s wife stating “Donations have been down this past quarter. Every day, my husband checks the mail to see if any of our friends have written to us with support...”. After that, I made it my duty to do all I could to remain on their mailing list for as long as I could while throwing out their letters the second they were received. Just keeping in contact in order to remain on the mailing list.


14 posted on 07/06/2012 10:15:08 AM PDT by richmwill
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To: texas_mrs

www.guidestar.org

You can see their tax returns, ect. See where their money goes, what they pay their officers/directors.


15 posted on 07/06/2012 10:18:20 AM PDT by RayBob (If guns kill people, can I blame misspelled words on my keyboard?)
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To: texas_mrs

I don’t know of any such list because everyone has different criteria for judging an effective use of donations. Ask your parents to cut their charitable giving to only a few organizations. All other requests go into the trash. They can choose what they want from medical care, veteran’s groups, etc., but then look at the books for those few and see if they meet your expectations. If it does it is a keeper, but if their overhead is too high then cross them off.

Some 501c3s actually post their most recent tax returns online, which saves you time when looking up admin costs, payroll, etc. All of them are supposed to send you the information if you request it. All groups have some administrative overhead, if only to keep records for the IRS.


16 posted on 07/06/2012 10:21:12 AM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: 1rudeboy
Not all “501s” pay their executive “peanuts.”

Some of the larger national non-profits pay their top executives massive salaries. Do a little “googling” about the salaries paid to the top executives of the Red Cross just a few years ago (over $600K/yr for one of them), for example.

17 posted on 07/06/2012 10:49:52 AM PDT by RavenATB
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To: RavenATB
I was responding to the comment that, "The long term ones exist in order to make money for themselves." It is a sweeping generalization, and I mentioned why.

Pointing out to me that some 501s pay massive salaries completely is meaningless.

18 posted on 07/06/2012 10:52:54 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: texas_mrs

My parents were flooded with envelopes that depicted crying Indian/Native American youth crying begging for donations.

And remember that Harry Reid says that the elderly who receive these scam letters and other junk mail WELCOME it because it keeps them connected to the outside world and receiving mail.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/compost/post/harry-reid-fights-for-junk-mail/2012/04/20/gIQAFgDOWT_blog.html


19 posted on 07/06/2012 10:54:30 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Fools.Damn fools.Welcome to the USSA. Socialism is slavery to the State and the Supreme Court did it)
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To: RavenATB

IIRC, the Atlanta United Way got caught with executive extravagance. This was 20-25 years ago I think....massive salaries, luxury offices, limousines, etc.

That was when I started tell my work not to bother me any more with United Way Campaign donation requests.


20 posted on 07/06/2012 11:05:49 AM PDT by Gaffer (NOVEMBER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: texas_mrs

Why not just post the list of non-profits you want to know more about. Maybe someone can help.


21 posted on 07/06/2012 11:15:27 AM PDT by RavenATB
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To: JimWayne

The Boy Scouts of America is pretty big, and it’s been around for over a century.

Who are they “in it for”?


22 posted on 07/06/2012 11:17:29 AM PDT by RavenATB
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To: Gaffer
Back in the early 1990's, my boss put heavy pressure on me to have an amount of my paycheck deducted for the United Way. I asked her, "how do I know where my money is going?" She ignored me, and got pissed-off when I finally asked her, "are you getting some sort of a spiff (kickback) for this?"

Then the Aramony scandal hit, and I didn't rub her snout in it because I wanted to keep my job. I should've done it, she was a pig.

23 posted on 07/06/2012 11:20:52 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: texas_mrs

Go to “Guidestar.com” for a report.


24 posted on 07/06/2012 11:24:54 AM PDT by MindBender26 (America can survive 4 years of Romney. She cannot survive another 4 years of an unfettered Obama!)
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To: RavenATB
I mailed a few at lunch. One from the Minutemen and another I forget the name of. The rest are listed below, in no particular order. The ones with asterisks are especially rabid with their mailings and sell their name to other lists. I know this because they made an odd typo in Dad's address that appears on mailings from new senders:

Council of Seniors*
American Civil Rights Union
Second Ammendment Foundation
National Tax Limitation Committee
Citizens United for American Soveriegnty
Social Security Institute
Frontiers of Freedom
Senior Citizens League
American Conservatives Union
Senior Security Alliance Benefit Security Coalition*
Freedom's Defense Fund
Christian Voice
The Conservative Caucus

I even wrote letters 'from Dad' asking them to stop their requests after the postmaster told me they had to honor such a request by law. It did nothing. I suppose I need to do this again with a certified letter.
25 posted on 07/06/2012 11:31:19 AM PDT by texas_mrs
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To: texas_mrs
I don't think this is what you're looking for, but if you would permit me to go off on a tangent for a moment, personally I give cash, anonymously, and tell that to all who call or write. I keep a few larger bills in my wallet and they find their way into the Salvation Army kettle, fireman's boots when they collect for widows and orphans, and they purchase a paper poppy on Memorial Day.
26 posted on 07/06/2012 11:13:12 PM PDT by ADemocratNoMore (Jeepers, Freepers, where'd 'ya get those sleepers?. Pj people, exposing old media's lies.)
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