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Police: Hug Triggers Officer's Gun, Kills Woman
Boston.com ^ | 7/8/2012 | AP Science Writer

Posted on 07/09/2012 8:33:15 AM PDT by pgyanke

A woman celebrating the weekend before her 25th birthday was fatally shot Sunday when she hugged an off-duty police officer while dancing at a party, causing the officer’s service weapon to fire, according to police and her mother.

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According to Stephens, the woman “embraced the officer from behind, causing the holstered weapon to accidently discharge.’’ The bullet punctured Miller’s lung and hit her heart, and she died at a hospital.

(Excerpt) Read more at articles.boston.com ...


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To: Afterguard

You could do some research before being wrong...but then you wouldn’t get to express your biases.

Detroit PD carries M&Ps.

I bet circular saws scare the hell out of you. They don’t have a safety either. Not even on the trigger.

Luckily, I know how to use tools, so I don’t have to live in fear of an inanimate object like some do.


21 posted on 07/09/2012 9:14:07 AM PDT by MNIL
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To: Afterguard; Tupelo; mylife

Detroit Free Press said it was a .40 S&W.


22 posted on 07/09/2012 9:16:28 AM PDT by Springman (Rest In Peace YaYa123, Bahbah, and Just Lori.)
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To: Venturer

“Revolvers are tried and true.They don’t go off without help and they don’t jam.”

Wrong, and wrong.

A: No gun “goes off” without help, unless it has a mechanical defect.

B: Since you lump all “revolvers” together, I feel the need to inform you that only “modern” revolvers have firing pin blocks. Drop one of your trusty “revolvers” and see if it goes off.

C: Unless you put preserves in it, no weapon “jams.” Try cycling your revolver when you have a primer pop. Here’s a hint...the entire gun locks up, and no drill will clear it usually. Primer setback or getting a projectile hung up on the forcing cone will stop a revolver dead, and then the only way to get it functioning is by disassembling it.

D: Either is an acceptable choice for a self defense weapon. Those who have weak hands or are mechanically inept may find the revolver more to their liking.


23 posted on 07/09/2012 9:21:23 AM PDT by MNIL
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To: MNIL

Oh. A little touchy this morning are we? Lol


24 posted on 07/09/2012 9:23:33 AM PDT by Afterguard
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To: MNIL
MNIL
Since Jul 1, 2012

Welcome to FR

25 posted on 07/09/2012 9:26:03 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: MNIL

“Those who have weak hands or are mechanically inept may find the revolver more to their liking.”

That sounds like a slight on revolver users and I didn’t mean for it to be. I’m only prejudiced towards poor quality weapons. I own a few revolvers myself and have always liked them. I have a Smith 640 that is a great pocket gun, and goes with me when I don’t feel like putting on the belt/holster/mag carrier/etc.


26 posted on 07/09/2012 9:28:26 AM PDT by MNIL
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To: MNIL

I have never had a primer pop on any revolver I ever owned.

I have never had one fire from being dropped.

I will stick to my revolver, and wish you luck with whatever it is you like.


27 posted on 07/09/2012 9:28:47 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: pgyanke

Thats it,,, no more hugs for cops...


28 posted on 07/09/2012 9:30:21 AM PDT by ßuddaßudd (>> F U B O << "What the hell kind of country is this if I can only hate a man if he's white?")
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To: Afterguard

So...you were wrong?

Well, lets change the subject then. I’m sorry I exposed your biases.


29 posted on 07/09/2012 9:30:28 AM PDT by MNIL
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To: Tupelo
1911 type weapon with the hammer cocked.

In which case the thumb safety would have to be disengaged and the grip safety held, and the trigger pressed.

Or it may have been the more common police issue Glock that only requires the trigger to be pressed, the "safety" being a toggle on the face of the trigger.

30 posted on 07/09/2012 9:32:27 AM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: Venturer

As long as you carry, it doesn’t matter much what you carry.

But if you’re spreading erroneous information that can affect people’s choice of what they use to protect themselves...someone should speak up.

Revolvers are not fool proof. It is great that you’ve never had one lock up on you...if you’re anything like the average gun owner you put a box through it when you bought it and it has sat since. That’s like a guy saying “well I’ve never had a flat tire.” Well, you must not drive much. And you should stop dropping your pistols.

You’ve never been murdered either. Perhaps you don’t even need a gun?

I’m not anti-revolver, I’m anti bad info.


31 posted on 07/09/2012 9:34:15 AM PDT by MNIL
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

Thanks, it’s all so new. I hope I can learn how things work around here.


32 posted on 07/09/2012 9:35:35 AM PDT by MNIL
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To: Venturer

True, they don’t have as many bullets, but I don’t plan on being around much after firing 6 rounds anyway.


‘Cause you’d be dead because the other guy had 15?


33 posted on 07/09/2012 9:44:30 AM PDT by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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To: MNIL
There are those who just because they
have male genes, think they are
experts on firearms.

They occur even here at FR


34 posted on 07/09/2012 9:45:14 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: Tupelo

More likely a Glock or similar pistol, than a 1911. The cocked hammer scares many who never realize a Glock is just as “cocked”, but it’s firing mechanism is hidden from view by the slide. Also the 1911 has that grip safety,,glock doesn’t.
Glocks and similar designs are notorious for discharges in holsters. Nothing wrong with the gun per se,, but they are very intolerant of a worn, sloppy, or poorly designed holster.
On the 1911, somehow the thumb safety would have had to have been brushed off, the grip safety would have had to have been pushed,,and the the trigger activated. With a glock or a clone, all that need happen is the trigger be pushed against the holster.

Shoulder holsters are almost always a very poor choice. Sweeping muzzle, poor draw. Most ranges and departments prohibit them. Really they went out with trigger shoes.
But thanks to Miama Vice, we still must endure them. If you want to be sexy, buy a real holster, and spend the money you saved on some sexy underwear.


35 posted on 07/09/2012 9:48:13 AM PDT by DesertRhino (perI was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Tupelo

I also have one of those Galco rigs for my 1911. I see absolutely no way a 1911 would discharge in that rig even if cocked. Both the grip safety and trigger would have to be pressed at the same time and the slide safety would have to be off as well. However if the officer was carrying a Glock and the holster was unstrapped and the strap was inside the holster and pressing on the trigger, that would perhaps cause a discharge. I don’t think the strap will reach that far however. This is all speculation without knowing more about the holster and if it was modified.


36 posted on 07/09/2012 9:48:39 AM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: pgyanke
I would be lookin’ for an unsafely modified concealed carry service weapon and/or holster before I closed this inquiry.
37 posted on 07/09/2012 9:54:28 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Tupelo; All
From the Detroit Free Press:

Police: Detroit officer's gun kills woman in midst of hug; incident under investigation


38 posted on 07/09/2012 9:55:07 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: DesertRhino
More likely a Glock or similar pistol, than a 1911. The cocked hammer scares many who never realize a Glock is just as “cocked”, but it’s firing mechanism is hidden from view by the slide. Also the 1911 has that grip safety,,glock doesn’t. Glocks and similar designs are notorious for discharges in holsters. Nothing wrong with the gun per se,, but they are very intolerant of a worn, sloppy, or poorly designed holster. On the 1911, somehow the thumb safety would have had to have been brushed off, the grip safety would have had to have been pushed,,and the the trigger activated. With a glock or a clone, all that need happen is the trigger be pushed against the holster. Shoulder holsters are almost always a very poor choice. Sweeping muzzle, poor draw. Most ranges and departments prohibit them. Really they went out with trigger shoes. But thanks to Miama Vice, we still must endure them. If you want to be sexy, buy a real holster, and spend the money you saved on some sexy underwear.

More Bullshit rumors, without any information.

NRA T/C CRSO


39 posted on 07/09/2012 10:01:02 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: G Larry

***Betting the weapon was “streamlined” to an unsafe extent.***

Many years ago I bought a revolver once owned by a local cop. It had a lightened hammer spring, and a hair trigger, and I mean a HAIR TRIGGER!


40 posted on 07/09/2012 10:02:00 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (I LIKE ART! Click my name. See my web page.)
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