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Chick-Fil-A Question: Can businesses kick out patrons improperly dressed or engaged in lewd conduct
FaceBook Gay/Lesbian Pages ^ | August 1, 2012 | Vanity

Posted on 08/01/2012 9:58:21 AM PDT by topher

The above picture is what some gays/lesbians are calling on for dress on Fridays when going to Chick Fil-A

My question is whether businesses have the right to require a dress code, and also be allowed to expel patrons for lewd behavior.

There are Gay/Lesbian groups calling for boycotting/protests at Chick-Fil-A restaurants every Friday.

What rights do businesses have today?

Does this vary depending on the state?

Can very skimpy dress (bikinis, etc) be grounds for expelling people from the business?

What about behavior by adults that would be bad examples and considered lewd behavior in front of children.

There are a number of Facebook pages being put together over this issue.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Miscellaneous; Religion
KEYWORDS: business; chickfila; gay; lesbian; propertyrights
I remember at one time businesses could claim they had a right as to who they would serve. Then came along Civil Rights legislation.

How much power do the states have? How much has the liberal Federal Bureaucracy intruded into the private nature of businesses and the rights to keep behavior at businesses respectable?

1 posted on 08/01/2012 9:58:26 AM PDT by topher
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To: topher

The embedded pic failed.

Thank God.


2 posted on 08/01/2012 10:00:02 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (obozo could bring back literal slavery with chains and still he will get 85+% of the black vote)
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To: topher

3 posted on 08/01/2012 10:00:47 AM PDT by Morgana (This space for rent. Cheap.)
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To: topher

‘Drive-through only’ would solve that problem.


4 posted on 08/01/2012 10:00:55 AM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: topher
The link to the Facebook page has an example of how some people may dress for this protest.

I do not think the picture is too offensive, but this facebook page may be updated with more offensive pictures.

[warning, of sorts]

5 posted on 08/01/2012 10:01:25 AM PDT by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- which have been proven over time.)
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To: topher

Perhaps other patrons should bring big signs with an arrow.

Above the arrow: “Queer right here.” The sign arrow can then be oriented to suit.

Yup, it’s politically incorrect. However, if they wish to offend, then we can also offend.

Sorry folks, that’s what it’s come down to.


6 posted on 08/01/2012 10:01:37 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: topher

Businesses (pieces of SACRED private property) SHOULD be able to engage in virtually any discrimination that they see fit.

“The moment the idea is introduced into society that property is not as sacred as the laws of God, and there is not a force of law to protect it, anarchy and tyranny commence.” John Adams or James Madison (I forget)


7 posted on 08/01/2012 10:02:10 AM PDT by Doctor 2Brains (If the government were Paris Hilton, it could not score a free drink in a bar full of lonely sailors)
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To: topher; Chode

I all due respect most restaurants have a “no shirt, no shoes, no service rule” This is not their rule but that of the Health Department so it must be enforced.

I am also pretty sure that “no shirt, no shoes” replies to “no clothing”.


8 posted on 08/01/2012 10:04:00 AM PDT by Morgana (This space for rent. Cheap.)
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To: Morgana
The woman appears to be dressed okay.

The guy certainly looks like he could use a new suit.

9 posted on 08/01/2012 10:04:39 AM PDT by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- which have been proven over time.)
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To: topher

They want to make Friday a gay day at Chick-fil-A. Interesting, that supports Chick-fil-A. Bet they are so stupid that they don’t understand. Besides, CFA never said that they discriminate, so this should help business. Just saying


10 posted on 08/01/2012 10:05:26 AM PDT by Cyclone59 (Obama is like Ron Burgundy - he will read ANYTHING that is on the teleprompter)
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To: topher

On another thread, I stated that the next step in this manufactured outrage will be a lot of phony discrimination suits against CFA. The left is furious that their pointing fingers and calling names has not cowed CFA into PC submission. Naturally they will turn to their friendly activists judges for comfort.


11 posted on 08/01/2012 10:06:34 AM PDT by workerbee (June 28, 2012 -- 9/11 From Within)
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To: topher

The board of health and local regulations, state laws would determine what a business with a “walk-in” setup might do.

Though zero reaction would quickly chill the protests. Calling cops, expelling customers is what the left wants, it’s how they advance.


12 posted on 08/01/2012 10:07:41 AM PDT by DBrow
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There are always no loitering laws...


13 posted on 08/01/2012 10:08:02 AM PDT by occam's chainsaw (There are no simple answers.)
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To: Cyclone59

As long as they behave themselves, I see no reason why CFA would mind. Queer people’s money spends the same as everyone else’s.


14 posted on 08/01/2012 10:09:08 AM PDT by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (EAT MOR CHIKIN)
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To: topher

If I stuff a fag in the dumpster, ya’ think they’ll kick me out?


15 posted on 08/01/2012 10:09:20 AM PDT by arrdon (Never underestimate the stupidity of the American voter.)
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To: Morgana
I guess Gays/Lesbians may plan to engage in activity that may be of concern to the Department of Health.

I guess your point is that spreading disease is something Health Departments want to avoid.

I imagine that it is fair to say that many Gays and Lesbians have Sexually acquired diseases (AIDS, herpes, etc).

16 posted on 08/01/2012 10:09:33 AM PDT by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- which have been proven over time.)
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To: topher

Suing someone because they say you have no balls, kind of proves the accuser’s point.


17 posted on 08/01/2012 10:12:34 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: freedumb2003
Must have been God's will. [Thank God]

I questioned the wisdom of using it, but that something I saw on Facebook that made me start this thread.

Conservatives may need to help Chick-Fil-A out in this situation. Knowing how to help the restaurants might be something for Freepers to do...

18 posted on 08/01/2012 10:13:11 AM PDT by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- which have been proven over time.)
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To: topher

Sounds to me like the sexual deviants (let there be no misunderstandings “gays”) in this country are about to begin engaging in hate crimes. Law enforcement are you listening?


19 posted on 08/01/2012 10:13:33 AM PDT by Mister Anderson (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the Idiots)
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To: topher

Accidents involving buckets of ice water could happen. Oopsie!


20 posted on 08/01/2012 10:21:03 AM PDT by Noumenon (I will not pay the Obama jizya.)
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To: topher

Short answer? Businesses have the right to regulate behavior on their premises that might adversely affect their business. That was in the old days ...

But that said, keep in mind that the actions of other PATRONS are not the actions of the BUSINESS. If an employee tells some fag to get out, it could be trouble. But if another patron were to stand outside the door and insult the fags as they came in, or to tell them to knock off the tongue-wrestling because it was making them sick, the business is not directly involved.

Point is: take the matter into your own hands (so to speak). Stand up for CFA; don’t wait for CFA to stand up for you.


21 posted on 08/01/2012 10:27:00 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: topher

I don’t know what the legal standing is but I remember years ago that clubs and restaurants could, and did demand proper dress such as black tie only, or no polyester allowed, no jeans allowed..

I see on stores signs that say things like “No shirt, no shoes, no service’.

I’ve known of higher end places that might not tell you that you look like a slob, but they wouldn’t come and get you for a table either. They’d either tell you that it’s a 4 hour wait, or just leave you in the lobby till you left of your own accord.

The reason I say ‘years ago’ is to establish that it’s not a new thing as a result in a loss of freedom, but that it has been a customary practice at some establishments for a very long time.

I know that schools, hospitals, and other businesses DO have dress codes for students and employees, and that health ordinances do demand certain dress codes for health and safety reasons, under certain circumstances.


22 posted on 08/01/2012 10:27:23 AM PDT by PrairieLady2
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To: topher

Most in the gay parades seem to be clothing challenged. So if this or any other place said “no shirt no shoes” they are abiding by the Health Department codes and may turn away people for this reason. Would hope the police would enforce laws against public nudity as well seeing that is a food place.


23 posted on 08/01/2012 10:29:12 AM PDT by Morgana (This space for rent. Cheap.)
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To: PrairieLady2

“I see on stores signs that say things like “No shirt, no shoes, no service’.”

This is a Health Department law not just a store rule!!


24 posted on 08/01/2012 10:31:49 AM PDT by Morgana (This space for rent. Cheap.)
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To: topher

This is a budding disaster for the left!

Decades of pro-gay agitprop will come undone as patrons openly mock and ridicule them, potentially at hundreds of sites, all on the same day.


25 posted on 08/01/2012 10:53:35 AM PDT by Stalwart
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To: topher
If the facebook picture is what you intended to post, Yes Chick-fil-A does not have to “serve” these people dressed or not dressed as they are. It is a clear violation of health and safety regulations all food related businesses must follow.
But what would gays care about health and safety of the public.
26 posted on 08/01/2012 10:54:24 AM PDT by lucky american
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To: ZirconEncrustedTweezers

“Queer people’s money spends the same as everyone else’s.”

LMAO

Thats the answer the clerk should give when one these perverts announces that they have arrived at Chik-Fil-A

Or counter protesters with big signs say the samething


27 posted on 08/01/2012 11:14:51 AM PDT by BubbaJunebug
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To: topher

That is because sodomites are basically exhibitionists at heart.


28 posted on 08/01/2012 11:53:21 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Tyrannies demand immense sacrifices of their people to produce trifles.-Marquis de Custine)
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To: topher

...and if I walk by and trip and my milkshake lands on them? I’m 70, I trip a lot.


29 posted on 08/01/2012 12:48:44 PM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag
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To: topher

“Can businesses kick out patrons improperly dressed or engaged in lewd conduct?”

The managers best phrase: “I’m gonna have to ask you to leave. Right now.”


30 posted on 08/01/2012 12:54:29 PM PDT by Mashood
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To: topher

I’ve seen signs in restaurants that require shirts and shoes or sandals. I believe those rules are based on health laws. With that in mind, I’d say that they could also decline admittance to anyone in a bikini, citing health laws as well. I’d check into the decency and health department laws in your area to see which laws could apply to this situation.


31 posted on 08/01/2012 2:23:48 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: Morgana
i'm pretty sure they could get somebody to volunteer to be a door bouncer to keep the filthy scum out...
32 posted on 08/01/2012 2:44:46 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: topher

If nothing else, they should be allowed to require that customers actually be customers, and not just loiterers.


33 posted on 08/01/2012 8:43:23 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: topher

The above picture is a little red X in a double box...


34 posted on 08/01/2012 10:21:20 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: topher
Starbucks: "We comply with local laws and statutes in all the communities we serve."

FWIW...The gay-rights debate belongs in the legislatures and courts, not in the stores/restaurants.

35 posted on 08/01/2012 10:31:50 PM PDT by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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