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Why do we keep assuming the Sikh shooter thought he was killing Muslims?(vanity chat)
Mamzelle

Posted on 08/07/2012 6:12:50 AM PDT by Mamzelle

This appears to be the assumption of Sikhs in America, the news media and even the internet media.

The shooter was military trained in psychological warfare, I believe is a fact? Why do we think that he would confuse Sikhs with Muslims?

I certainly do not. I can tell the difference between a Sikh and a Muslim from a hundred yards in an Atlanta shopping mall. Sikhs have an elegant and kindly air about them, their beards are trimmed with a romantic style and their turbans draped artistically and distinctively. Their woman do not cringe and crouch and do not behave as if they are beaten daily.

Whatever this nut was thinking, there's no evidence yet that this is a matter of mistaken identity.


TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: massacre; muslim; sikh; sikhtemple; wadepage; wisconsin
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To: Strategerist

Thanks for the info.
I was clueless.
(living a sheltered life, even though I have the internet, LOL)


41 posted on 08/07/2012 7:31:59 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: cripplecreek

You want them all to answer?


42 posted on 08/07/2012 7:33:01 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: stuartcr

I want them exposed for the manipulative charlatans and liars they are.


43 posted on 08/07/2012 7:35:07 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: nascarnation

Go to you tube and type in “Skrewdriver”. See for yourself. They even do merchandising tie ins.


44 posted on 08/07/2012 7:44:35 AM PDT by Free in Texas (Member of the Bitter Clingers Association.)
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To: Mamzelle

Muslims hate Jews. Neo-Nazis hate Jews. I find it odd he would go supposedly try to kill Muslims.


45 posted on 08/07/2012 7:45:40 AM PDT by PghBaldy (Obama 07/22/12: "we all reflect on how we can do something about some of the senseless violence...")
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To: Mormon Cricket

One report did say that one of the victims had a bloody knife in his hand and had charged the shooter.


46 posted on 08/07/2012 7:57:38 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: Mamzelle

“We” don’t.


47 posted on 08/07/2012 8:06:35 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: TomGuy
What makes a person go crazy and start killing? That is an age old question.

Usually something involving love and/or sex.

48 posted on 08/07/2012 8:25:12 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: Mamzelle
I never assumed he “was confused” or “made a mistake”. I determined that as he was a known Neo-Nazi, and Nazis have always had close ties with Islam, and that Muslims have an abiding hatred for Sikhs, that he killed the Sikhs in a Neo-Nazi/Muslim flip out.
49 posted on 08/07/2012 8:33:53 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: Mamzelle
I agree it's a big leap that was taken by the MSM immediately. My local news was interviewing Sikhs the day of the shooting, asking them if they are often mistaken for muslim.

It may turn out to be the case, but it is an irresponsible assumption for the media to take.

They've been promising a "muslim backlash" for more than a decade, so they can reconfirm that white Americans are racist. It's way behind schedule, but they'll announce its arrival daily, until it gets here.

50 posted on 08/07/2012 9:23:25 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Kenton; Mamzelle

The Dems/leftists/media (but I repeat myself) want to push the “He thought they were Muzzies” which is most likely not a fact. Already on the SPLC site (there was a link on a thread yesterday), leftists PiecesOS are saying that Michelle Bachmann’s hatred of Muzzies is fuelling this kind of “thing”. It’s all because of anti-Mozzie bigotry. They are drooling over this.


51 posted on 08/07/2012 9:53:53 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Mormon Cricket; All

Have to pick nits -

The Constitution does not create or give rights; it recognizes pre-existing rights and proposes a form of government so instituted as to protect those rights.

By definition, the Constitution can be amended; if rights came from the Constitution, they would not be ‘inalienable’.


52 posted on 08/07/2012 10:10:42 AM PDT by bt_dooftlook (Democrats - the party of Amnesty, Abortion, and Adolescence)
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To: Mamzelle

My dear, most Americans are not as educated as you are I are.

I know the difference because:

I have studied both religions.

I have had friends in both religions.

and more importantly I have watched both pray and watched their actions.

That said, if I ever fly again and have a choice of sitting next to an air Marshall or a Sikh ...Yea I’ll take the Sikh. Because the first time that muzzie gets up and shouts “Allah Akbar” the Sikh will take out his sword and turn the muzzie into sushi.


53 posted on 08/07/2012 10:40:33 AM PDT by Morgana (Eat at Chick-Fil-A)
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To: mnehring

The head of the temple, age 62 or 65 IIRC, attacked him with a knife, and was killed


54 posted on 08/07/2012 11:42:52 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Kenton
Also, the Ahmadiyya Muslims at the mosque frequently have a full parking lot on Sundays. Not sure what they're up to, but they're there in numbers.

Weapons training, bomb building and Jihad 101?

55 posted on 08/07/2012 11:53:31 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard
I find it hard to believe that this nut job thought these people were Muslims. I think it was obvious that he wanted to kill someone, anyone. Perhaps he went over the edge, but he surly knew that they were not Muslims.
56 posted on 08/07/2012 1:14:07 PM PDT by ANGGAPO (Layte Gulf Beach Club)
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To: Mamzelle

I didn’t assume that. I thought he hated Indians.


57 posted on 08/07/2012 7:28:02 PM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: Eye of Unk
One of the victims did have a bounty on his head.

Which one?

58 posted on 08/08/2012 12:07:26 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Kenton

There was a funny incident in Australia, a few years back, where some dumb and offensive yutes decided to give a “Muslim” a beat down. So they set upon a guy in a turban, and he had to run away - yes, he was a Sikh. He outpaced the fat bullies, so they crossed the road, and vented their rage upon a group of swarthy men who had a felafel stall.

They were Israelis.


59 posted on 08/08/2012 10:58:18 PM PDT by BlackVeil
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To: Mamzelle
I wonder about this too...

some years ago, the terrorist group the US government never talks about, called Jamaat ul Fuqra, targeted those they deemed "apostate" muslims, or those they deemed insufficiently muslim, also Hindus, Sikhs, Jews and assorted others, in a string of bomb plots and assassination plots against individuals and temples.

The Jamaat ul Fuqra was headed by a Pakistani named Jilani/Gilani [ I think it still is] and recruits blacks and others in both Caribbean and in the USA into living in little isolated enclaves which frequently have gun ranges and airstrips on them. They also operate the "International Qurannic Open University," and other similarly named fronts.

Their assassins knew very well what the differences were between Sikhs and Muslims and they weren't targeting Sikhs because they were "confused."

60 posted on 08/08/2012 11:13:37 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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