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The Top 100 Universities In The World
Business Insider ^ | 09/11/2012 | Shlomo Sprung

Posted on 09/11/2012 8:10:05 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

The top three spots on the QS World University Rankings changed this year, with MIT taking the top spot for 2012. MIT overtook the University of Cambridge, which took second place ahead of Harvard, located in Cambridge, Massachusetts.

British schools took four of the top six spots, but American colleges and universities occupy 13 of the top 20 spots in the annual ranking.

This ranking is based on reputation among academics, reputation among employers, citations per faculty, staff-to-student ratios and international attractiveness. Check out the entire list:

1 Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) United States

2 University of Cambridge United Kingdom

3 Harvard University United States

4 UCL (University College London) United Kingdom

5 University of Oxford United Kingdom

6 Imperial College London United Kingdom

7 Yale University United States

8 University of Chicago United States

9 Princeton University United States

10 California Institute of Technology (Caltech) United States

11 Columbia University United States

12 University of Pennsylvania United States

13 ETH Zurich (Swiss Federal Institute of Technology) Switzerland

14 Cornell University United States

15 Stanford University United States

16 Johns Hopkins University United States

17 University of Michigan United States

18 McGill University Canada

19 University of Toronto Canada

20 Duke University United States

21 University of Edinburgh United Kingdom

22 University of California, Berkeley (UCB) United States

23 University of Hong Kong Hong Kong

24 Australian National University Australia

25 National University of Singapore (NUS)

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: Education; Society
KEYWORDS: college; university

1 posted on 09/11/2012 8:10:08 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

An engineer, good friend of mine I worked with years ago graduated with an MSEE from MIT. We worked in RF for Scientific-Atlanta at the time and got to talking about educations, etc. He said, MIT was great, theory out the ying-yang, etc. But.....

He asked me about waveguides for RF. He said I know the formulas to show how an RF wave propagates down the guide...couldn’t for the life of him figure out how it’s done... how did they get that RF wave in there in the first place?

I explained it to him and showed him with real hardware....he said, they never taught any of this. This from the pre- and post-war lab (Lincoln)who pioneered radar in this country using British hardware (magnetron).....


2 posted on 09/11/2012 8:16:45 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: SeekAndFind

UCLA made the list? Unbelievable!


3 posted on 09/11/2012 8:24:25 AM PDT by Fiji Hill (Deo Vindice!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Harvard....their motto is “TRUTH”.....proven by Paleface Dizzy Lizzy Warren. Their motto should be “EXCRETUM”. What a laugh.


4 posted on 09/11/2012 8:36:18 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Gaffer

>> I showed him with real hardware ...

Agreed - check out the current I3E journals - lotsa numbers and formulas, not much hands on stuff. (Confirmed by my Goddaughter, who got a full ride in Brass Rat’s math department in the 90s.)

On a different subject, can’t help but notice that my undergrad alma mater, the University of Miami didn’t make the list. :o)

Oh well - at least it keeps that short squatty lefty, Donna Shalala out of government. That’s gotta be worth her $1.2 million annual salary.


5 posted on 09/11/2012 8:39:41 AM PDT by QBFimi (When gunpowder speaks, beasts listen.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Rejected from #9.
Accepted by 14, 20, 27, 84

Went to #14 from 1979-1983. Cornell. Beautiful setting. They taught me how to build oil refineries and chemical plants, just before no one wanted to build them anymore. Outside of engineering it was uber-liberal.

Should’ve gone to the University of Minnesota. Same quality of education for a lot less money.


6 posted on 09/11/2012 8:42:35 AM PDT by kidd
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To: Gaffer
The lack of “labs” or the “hands-on practical” part of an engineering education is a disturbing trend. It is almost completely driven by money. The O&M to keep a quality engineering lab going in a university or college engineering program is quite high. The siren song of “simulate everything on computers” is most alluring. Its much much cheaper then maintaining a physical lab. However no where near as educational for engineers. Computer simulations have their place but they aren't physical. Consider the following, sparks, the odd "it bit me!" electrical shock, a nonfunctional (but should be!) circuit board or even better a smoking circuit board have an educational value almost incalculable!

Also there might be another reason for this trend and its humanware. When I first started college there was a high percentage of engineering profs with industrial experience. (Even my physics department has some!), now they are as rare as gainfully employed French Literature majors. So an unspoken reason could be, too many professors in the curriculum decision making process with no idea what real industrial-grade engineering is. You have engineering profs who have been on a college campus from eighteen on. many with their world outlook still stuck at 18.

Now mix in the very high number of foreign profs who are not very likely to have an American industrial experience either (or any industrial experience particularly if they com from country where a sharp rock & stick is high tech!) and you have a recipe for increasing educational irrelevance.

7 posted on 09/11/2012 8:43:03 AM PDT by Reily (l)
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To: Fiji Hill

RE: UCLA made the list? Unbelievable!

4 of the University of California’s made the top 100.

Berekley, UCLA, San Diego and Davis. What’s wrong with UCLA anyway?


8 posted on 09/11/2012 8:43:03 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (bOTRT)
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To: kidd

RE: Should’ve gone to the University of Minnesota. Same quality of education for a lot less money.

Yes, but I don’t see it in the top 100 /s


9 posted on 09/11/2012 8:45:31 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (bOTRT)
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To: kidd

Cornell is now considered the most communist university in the country.


10 posted on 09/11/2012 8:51:40 AM PDT by Eva
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To: SeekAndFind

Yay! I graduated from number 1, while my brother graduated from number 3 and my sister from number 15. I’ll tease them about it.


11 posted on 09/11/2012 8:59:54 AM PDT by rustbucket
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To: rustbucket

Why are you so proud of a family of losers? Just kidding.


12 posted on 09/11/2012 9:07:45 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: kidd
Should’ve gone to the University of Minnesota. Same quality of education for a lot less money.

Yeah, I think that is more true than people who have gone to East Coast Ivies would care to admit. When my eldest was looking for her undergrad college, she wanted to major in Music Performance (Oboe). There was just no way we could afford the conservatories; but, her piano teacher told us to try Indiana University - Bloomington. We looked into it and, low and behold, it is one of the best Music Schools in the country. Who knew? In the middle of Indiana, great music school. Now, we had to pay out-of-state tuition; but, it was still way cheaper than a conservatory. (BTW, the out-of-state tuition we paid at UI-Bloomington, is now less than the in-state tuition at most of the colleges in WA state.)

I think it might be a better option for a lot of kids to look at which schools have a strong department in the area of study that you want. I know that, locally, the University of Washington in Seattle is where you can get a very good education if you want to get into medicine. My youngest daughter went to Washington State Univ. in the eastern portion of WA state (cow country) and that university has a very strong Communications Dept. (they have long waiting lists) and Architecture is also strong.

Perhaps those books on different colleges that they have should start putting in a section where they list the best colleges by degree program.

13 posted on 09/11/2012 9:09:32 AM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: SeekAndFind

Here’s a better way to choose a college, best colleges for free speech.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/09/06/southern-schools-dominate-list-best-colleges-for-free-speech/


14 posted on 09/11/2012 9:19:45 AM PDT by Eva
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To: QBFimi
On a different subject, can’t help but notice that my undergrad alma mater, the University of Miami didn’t make the list. :o)

Mine, Georgia Institute of Technology, made #88 (blech!)...however, I can remember more than a few times when we beat them (MIT/LL) out on some pretty good jobs...

15 posted on 09/11/2012 9:23:03 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: SeekAndFind
Johns Hopkins University United States

I would rate this number one. I am being treated by their graduates. They really learn their fields. The other school graduates seem to be idiots.

16 posted on 09/11/2012 9:24:08 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Corollary - Electing the same person over and over and expecting a different outcome is insanity)
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To: Reily; Gaffer

I worked for Brown and Root for awhile a couple of years after getting out of the Army, we were technical maintenance in a Hercules chemical plant.

I was surprised at how similar the fresh engineers were to second lieutenants, generally they were dumber than dishwater for the first year or two as they had all the theories, but the old techs had to explain to them why they wouldn’t work in the real world.

I was surprised to learn that the older engineers had adopted so many hands on hobbies, it seemed as though they felt the importance of actually involving themselves in hands on challenges, the old timers were much more humble and receptive to practical input than the young guys.


17 posted on 09/11/2012 9:44:18 AM PDT by ansel12 ( Aug. 27, 2012-Mitt Romney said his views on abortion are more lenient than the Republican Platform)
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To: kidd

I am surprised my alma mata, Minneapolis community college didn’t make the list. Afterall they were the 1st campus in the US to add foot baths to their bathrooms for their Islamic students.


18 posted on 09/11/2012 9:48:45 AM PDT by Manic_Episode (Some days...it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps....)
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To: ansel12

My experience is similar. However, I’d have killed for the computing and modeling and simulation tools engineers have today.

It’s a balance...before I retired, I had a brilliant engineer (modeling & simulation) destroy the input of a spectrum analzyer because he didn’t realize you can’t sample a 100W signal directly without a directional coupler... $6,000 damage.... it rearranged my thinking and I started having lab classes of a sort with them and the techs...


19 posted on 09/11/2012 9:49:32 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: SeekAndFind

Accepted by 1, 10, 49

Went to 10 instead of 1 for multiple reasons:

* Excellence of education in Physics and Engineering: even
* Number of undergrads: 10 - ~1,000, 1 - ~4,300
* Cost, with financial aid: 10 - $, 1 - $$$
* Weather: So Cal > Mass
* City: Pasadena > Cambridge


20 posted on 09/11/2012 9:50:13 AM PDT by kosciusko51 (Enough of "Who is John Galt?" Who is Patrick Henry?)
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To: LibertarianLiz

Bloomington is my hometown, IU has had a great music department for decades. I went To Purdue (95 on list), the Big 10 has 5 schools on the list. I concur there are many state schools where one can get good value, my son goes to WVU in ME.


21 posted on 09/11/2012 10:01:27 AM PDT by phormer phrog phlyer
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To: SeekAndFind

Hmm, my alma mater, Emory, is consistently ranked in the top twenty-five in the US, has been as high as 16, and is consistently ranked higher than Carnegie-Mellon, where my brother went. Yet Carnegie-Mellon is at 49 and Emory failed to make the list. University of Pittsburgh makes the list, but Emory doesn’t? I’m not buying it.


22 posted on 09/11/2012 10:05:02 AM PDT by KevinB (We'll stop treating Obama like a dog when he stops treating us like a fire hydrant - Fred Grandy)
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To: SeekAndFind

First let me lay everything on the table - I graduated from Cal Poly in 79 with a BSEE. So by definition I got a hands-on learn-by-doing education. I know for a fact that Poly still does things essentially the same way. I was accepted at Davis - so I would have made it into the top 100 ;-) but chose Poly instead. (Let’s face it - SLO has it all over Davis!)

So now to the point of the post - during my time at Poly we went through “Accreditation.” This was only the 2nd time the department HAD done this, and had only been accredited for 5 years previously. Yep - that means that all the BSEE grads from 1937 to the very early 70s didn’t attend an “Accredited” program. Why? well Cal Poly wasn’t coed till the 60s, and wasn’t trying to play in the big leagues either. Once they became a “UNIVERSITY” this became important.

At the time - the story was that UCLA’s accreditation was put on probation because of their LACK of labs. The story went that you could take a BSEE there without EVER having an engineering lab. Poly’s the polar opposite, i.e. there isn’t an engineering class WITHOUT a lab in the program (so yes - I know which end of the waveguide to grab ;-)

My recent experience with some UCLA trained PHd’s. They were why we had to do 4 spins on the analog portion of our latest chip design! They made the same careless mistakes over and over again! What is the first thing you check on a schematic - that you have the POWER hooked up correctly. That is what they repeatedly did wrong! We won’t talk about the basic circuits not being reliable across temperature/process too!

So does that answer your question? ;-)


23 posted on 09/11/2012 10:09:29 AM PDT by fremont_steve
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To: Cowboy Bob

Bump


24 posted on 09/11/2012 10:24:41 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Greed + Envy = Liberalism)
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To: SeekAndFind

Commune vinculum omnibus artibus! Go Gophers! Its amazing that no group considers our mascot offensive!


25 posted on 09/11/2012 1:27:01 PM PDT by Docbarleypop
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To: SeekAndFind
The difference between USC and UCLA: USC has Anthony Davis; UCLA has Angela Davis.
26 posted on 09/11/2012 1:28:42 PM PDT by Fiji Hill (Deo Vindice!)
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