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A Fist Full of Firepower: The Rock Island Armory .22TCM
Small Arms Defense Journal ^ | Jeff W. Zimba

Posted on 09/17/2012 6:10:24 PM PDT by antisocial

The familiar look, feel and function of the legendary 1911 pistol designed over 100 years ago are alive in this new offering from Rock Island Armory. For those who are followers or even “fans” of this beloved design, simply holding one brings a smile to their face. For this latest incarnation, the .22TCM by Armscor, everything remains the same – until it is fired for the first time. At that single point of contact between firing pin and primer, the interest of all surrounding shooters is evident. This is not so much about a new 1911 family pistol, as it is a new cartridge with a much higher velocity that draws the attention.

The Basics The frame of the Rock Island Armory 1911 A2 is a little wider than a traditional 1911, similar in feel to the other “double stack” frames such as the .38 Super and the Para-Ordnance high capacity versions. The first time the .22TCM is handled there will be a few noticeable things for those well versed in the 1911. The first is the light return spring and the second is obvious before even handling it, the much smaller bore than standard chamberings.


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To: antisocial

Very interesting.

This is a 1911 platform I think I could get into.


21 posted on 09/17/2012 6:48:10 PM PDT by 2111USMC (aim small, miss small)
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To: Ken522
.... makes you wonder what it’s like to reload a cartridge that small ...

Really high chamber pressures on the 5.7 - the max is 50,000 psi and yeah, you read that right. Either you're really, really careful with the powder or you really, really trust whoever is.

I got a bunch of 5.7 handloads as a present. My benefactor called me later and said I'd need to put some case lube on them BEFORE I fired them. Wha? sez I. Oh, it's laquered at the factory, sez he, so there aren't any failures to eject. He put them into a tumbler to make them nice and shiny, which they aren't in the box, and that's why. Hmm...

Sure, they can be handloaded, and if you're careful it'll be fine but if you're a little uneasy about the whole thing as I am, maybe better to purchase factory ammo. If you can find it. Sheesh.

22 posted on 09/17/2012 6:52:53 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: mylife

Have you seen this?

2200 fps out of a 5” barrel.


23 posted on 09/17/2012 6:54:52 PM PDT by 2111USMC (aim small, miss small)
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To: 2111USMC

I have a CZ 52 and like it a lot, but this has a lot of advantages over the CZ.


24 posted on 09/17/2012 6:56:19 PM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: Gaffer

Nope. 380 Auto, 380 ACP, the terminology is interchangeable.


25 posted on 09/17/2012 6:59:46 PM PDT by OldMissileer
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To: antisocial

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFnqoYZcOgc&feature=fvwrel


26 posted on 09/17/2012 7:06:52 PM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: antisocial

Hmm, how much for ammo? Probably near a buck a shot.


27 posted on 09/17/2012 7:07:00 PM PDT by nomad
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To: nomad

http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/AMM-0553

They have it for $21 a box.


28 posted on 09/17/2012 7:15:37 PM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: antisocial

Rock Island might have a lot of firepower, but they got a crappy commissary.


29 posted on 09/17/2012 7:18:35 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: antisocial
Ok, pricey gun, but not bad. Do they sell ammo in full metal jacket?
30 posted on 09/17/2012 7:21:50 PM PDT by nomad
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To: xzins

Can’t say as I’ve ever had the pleasure of visiting their commissary, But I have two of their .45’s and they are fine weapons.


31 posted on 09/17/2012 7:23:14 PM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: nomad

I haven’t seen any advertised yet, but I suspect it will be available soon.
This pistol is competitive with the FN Five Seven plus it comes with a 9mm barrel all for about half the cost of a Five Seven. Ammo for the Five Seven is similar in price.


32 posted on 09/17/2012 7:29:20 PM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: Billthedrill

Five Seven N, bad little round. Saving up my pennies until I get the 1K that that little boss is selling for.


33 posted on 09/17/2012 7:32:36 PM PDT by hadaclueonce (you are paying 12% more for fuel because of Ethanol. Smile big Corn Lobby,)
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To: antisocial

You have to know that Rock Island Arsenal Illinois is the head of US Army Joint Munitions Command for it to be humorous. Their commissary is definitely humorous.


34 posted on 09/17/2012 7:37:06 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: OldMissileer

I quite realized that. The 380 is also called the 9mm short which is same diameter as the 9 mm in the picture. To me the 32 auto is more comparable to the new 22, that’s all I meant.


35 posted on 09/17/2012 7:56:24 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: antisocial
The Rock Island Armory 1911 A2 MM (Mini Magnum) is a “duel use” firearm right out of the box.

I thought duels were illegal now ;-)

I shot a friend's .22 MAG semi-auto pistol with 30 round magazines recently (can't rember the mfg). Nice gun. According to him it had similar ballistics to a .38 special. I thought that claim was a little on the heavy hitting side considering the lack of recoil.

This looks interesting. I'd like to hear from a FReeper that shoots one.

36 posted on 09/17/2012 8:27:39 PM PDT by AZ .44 MAG (Repeal Obama)
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To: antisocial

I live in Pahrump where this pistol is built, got to shoot it a few times at a range when they were out there testing it. Its an amazing gun, hardly any recoil but MAN oh man its loud.

Cant wait to buy myself one once I can convince the gun shop I work at to carry it :)


37 posted on 09/17/2012 8:35:56 PM PDT by eXe (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: AZ .44 MAG

Keltec PMR 30?


38 posted on 09/17/2012 8:40:57 PM PDT by Trod Upon (Obama: Making the Carter malaise look good. Misery Index in 3...2...1)
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To: Gaffer
I do not own a 32 but reload a lot 380’s so that is why I referenced them. The 380 is also known as the 9mm Kurz, which is the name I first became familiar when I was a child.

I figure this new round would not be any more difficult to reload than the 380’s.

39 posted on 09/17/2012 9:32:36 PM PDT by OldMissileer
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To: Trod Upon

I think so. Looks just like it.


40 posted on 09/17/2012 10:08:37 PM PDT by AZ .44 MAG (Repeal Obama)
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