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Black woman stands her ground, kills white man
Spero News ^ | September 18, 2012 | Martin Barillas

Posted on 09/21/2012 5:54:57 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

Houston area investigators are looking into a stand-your-ground case where after a minor fender-bender, a 22-year-old white male was shot and killed by a 23-year-old black woman. During a morning commute, Crystal Scott and Jonathan Ables were in an accident and pulled into a Shell gasoline station to survey the damage.

According to Scott, Ables exited his truck and ran toward her driver-side door. Scott said he yelled and then hit her door and tried to open it. Fearing for her life, Scott pulled her pistol and shot Ables once through the driver’s window and struck him in the chest. Ables died at the scene.

A Harris County Sheriff’s spokesman, Sgt. Felipe Rivera said “From what we understand it was maybe just a minor accident,” while adding, “The information we’re getting is that it appeared to be a minor accident that turned into road rage.”

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An eyewitness, who appeared on camera but has requested anonymity, said that he did not hear any threat in the seconds before Scott killed Ables. The witness was pumping gas and standing 15 feet away from Ables when a bullet ricocheted past him and struck his car. The bullet left a noticeable impression on the witness’s car.

As for Scott’s version of events, the witness said that if Ables had shouted or banged on the car, he would have heard it. “What drew my attention was the gunshot,” said the witness. “I just want to be sure that I do everything in my power that everything is fair. I care about it being fair,” he said. The Harris County sheriff’s department has not yet responded to Spero News’ request for any security footage of the shooting.

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1 posted on 09/21/2012 5:55:02 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

Sounds more like road rage than stand your ground.


2 posted on 09/21/2012 5:57:49 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Uncle Chip

More information and photos here:

http://diwataman.wordpress.com/2012/09/18/black-woman-stands-her-ground-kills-white-man/


3 posted on 09/21/2012 5:58:31 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

sounds like murder..hate crim..he was white.


4 posted on 09/21/2012 6:00:02 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: Uncle Chip

Good for her!
Good shot placement, too.


5 posted on 09/21/2012 6:01:00 AM PDT by Little Ray (AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: Uncle Chip

You all read what the witness said. Lets start riots in the streets!! Murder Murder, hate crime hate crime, this is racism.


6 posted on 09/21/2012 6:01:06 AM PDT by badpacifist (Obama and the media ....a love affair with mutual gay sex.)
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To: Little Ray

Did you read the article?


7 posted on 09/21/2012 6:01:51 AM PDT by badpacifist (Obama and the media ....a love affair with mutual gay sex.)
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To: Uncle Chip

It seems that these places must be inundated with cameras all around. They should provide more info. (Or have I been watching too much “Investigation Discovery” channel?)


8 posted on 09/21/2012 6:02:01 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: Uncle Chip
An Armed society is a polite society... or else.
9 posted on 09/21/2012 6:04:04 AM PDT by 2001convSVT (Going Galt as fast as I can.)
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To: Uncle Chip

I got crashed into by a black man at the grocery store, I turned and looked after him waiting for him to say “scuse me” but he kept going. It was a deliberate act of agression. I am a small white female.

In line at a a bureaucratic office, I said hi to a little boy in line with his dad. The little boy said nothing. His dad said “she said hi, say hi”. He didn’t. To my shock his dad then said to me, “He has to deal with Caucasians at school”. I had nothing to say to that; I was too floored.

Hatred of whites is a cultural value of the American black community. We are only here to be taken advantage of.


10 posted on 09/21/2012 6:04:22 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Uncle Chip

There are two critical elements here.

The first, and lesser of the two is the witness. But such “onlooker” testimony is seen as suspect compared to the testimony of someone actively involved.

More importantly, her drivers side window was shattered. If it was shattered by blunt force from the outside, she is acquitted. If it was shattered by her shooting through it, she just gunned him down.

The forensic evidence should be obvious. Either the shattered window has a bullet hole in it, or not, and most of the glass is either outside or inside of the vehicle.


11 posted on 09/21/2012 6:05:33 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (DIY Bumper Sticker: "THREE TIMES,/ DEMOCRATS/ REJECTED GOD")
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To: Little Ray

Read again genius


12 posted on 09/21/2012 6:07:42 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk
"Hatred of whites is a cultural value of the American black community. We are only here to be taken advantage of."

BINGO!!!

13 posted on 09/21/2012 6:08:37 AM PDT by AbolishCSEU (Percentage of Income in CS is inversely proportionate to Mother's parenting of children)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Check the link at post #3. There is only a bullethole through it and the bullethole is far away from the door handle. Unless he was Kareem Abdul Jabar, it would be tough to have a hand on the doorhandle and get shot where the bullethole is at the same time.


14 posted on 09/21/2012 6:09:22 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

“The first, and lesser of the two is the witness. But such “onlooker” testimony is seen as suspect compared to the testimony of someone actively involved.”

A ridiculous comment considering the only person “actively involved” was the person who would benefit from her testimony.


15 posted on 09/21/2012 6:09:46 AM PDT by traderrob6
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To: MayflowerMadam

Check out the photos at the link in post #3 — there appear to be plenty of cameras.


16 posted on 09/21/2012 6:11:22 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: yldstrk
Hatred of whites is a cultural value of the American black community. We are only here to be taken advantage of.

Among the underclass, the sin of slavery justifies it all.

17 posted on 09/21/2012 6:12:18 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, the lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: Uncle Chip

Hopefully there will be video from the store to help clear this up a little. If anyone acts hostile towards my wife after an accident I hope she graves’em on the spot!


18 posted on 09/21/2012 6:13:31 AM PDT by The Toll
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To: Uncle Chip

Wow, that is a great site! If they were cutting each other off in traffic and eventually bumped into each other, it sounds like road rage to me too. But even if he went toward her in a threatening manner, don’t the Trayvon supporters think that isn’t enough reason to shoot??????


19 posted on 09/21/2012 6:16:36 AM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (The DNC loves abortion so much they will now be called the D&C)
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To: yldstrk

Missed the eyewitness account.
Hope there were lots of cameras to make sure it is settled correctly.


20 posted on 09/21/2012 6:16:54 AM PDT by Little Ray (AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: The Toll
If anyone acts hostile towards my wife after an accident I hope she graves’em on the spot!

You'd best be rethinking that or you might be visiting your wife behind bars. Cars have door locks and gas pedals and people in them cell phones.

21 posted on 09/21/2012 6:17:18 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: AbolishCSEU

BINGO is correct! And that is the reason - more so than the proverbial “free stuff” from the government - that they vote demonrat in perfect unison. They equate the GOP with whitey.


22 posted on 09/21/2012 6:17:51 AM PDT by rhinohunter (DraftWalkerNow)
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To: Uncle Chip
My understanding was that Jonathan Ables was just walking toward the gas station counter to get himself an Arizona iced tea and a bag of Skittles.
23 posted on 09/21/2012 6:18:07 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: Uncle Chip

Hmmm, hate crime.
He had a passenger in the truck with him who said he was only going over to exchange insurance information.
Coulda been osama’s daughter


24 posted on 09/21/2012 6:19:10 AM PDT by sunny48
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To: Uncle Chip
From the photo of Ables, it appears he is an Hispanic man. So the headline is misleading. (Unless Ables was a "white Hispanic" a la the New York Times's racial categories.)

The witness who said he didn't hear any confrontation appears to be Hispanic, too.

On the other hand, the witness who partly backs Scott's story is a white male.

Gee, how is a jury going to sort out all these racial angles? /s

25 posted on 09/21/2012 6:20:53 AM PDT by shhrubbery! (NIH!)
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To: Uncle Chip
From the photo of Ables, it appears he is an Hispanic man. So the headline is misleading. (Unless Ables was a "white Hispanic" a la the New York Times's racial categories.)

The witness who said he didn't hear any confrontation appears to be Hispanic, too.

On the other hand, the witness who partly backs Scott's story is a white male.

Gee, how is a jury going to sort out all these racial angles? /s

26 posted on 09/21/2012 6:21:05 AM PDT by shhrubbery! (NIH!)
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To: yldstrk

I teach in a public school in Los Angeles; our students are mostly Hispanic but we get 3-4 black kids each year. The girls are generally quite nice and friendly, but the little boys usually strut in with full-on attitude and give us nothing but trouble from beginning to end. Not always, but usually.


27 posted on 09/21/2012 6:21:30 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: badpacifist

Don’t forget, grab your mexican flag before you hit the streets to protest! Yeah I know the guy killed was probably an American but that doesn’t seem to stop the mexican supporting hispanics in this area


28 posted on 09/21/2012 6:22:08 AM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (The DNC loves abortion so much they will now be called the D&C)
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To: Uncle Chip

Cars have door locks and gas pedals and people in them cell phones.
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exactly. and in this case, the woman was at a gas station, with other people within 15 feet.
she was in no danger, unless the man had a gun.
...this was cold-blooded murder,
of a young white father with 2 children.


29 posted on 09/21/2012 6:24:06 AM PDT by Elendur (It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Little Ray
A recurring problem with female cops is they get into situations where a man wouldn't be expected to resort to shooting the perp, but they do because they're smaller and weaker, and they know there's no second chance in this.

Not at all surprising she shot the guy if he came all the way to her window! At the same time he appears to have been unarmed.

Your typical SYG situation involves somebody on the scene not exactly having a legal right to be there. In this case both parties had a legal right to be there, and if the stated intent was to exchange information after a small accident, she may have a real problem, or maybe not.

But as you said, good shot placement!

CCW has done wonders around here to make all the local drivers much more polite ~ EXCEPT for the ones from Maryland. They behave like there's no tomorrow!

30 posted on 09/21/2012 6:24:18 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Uncle Chip

There’s a blogger who has been doing a good job collecting info and pictures

http://diwataman.wordpress.com/2012/09/18/black-woman-stands-her-ground-kills-white-man/


31 posted on 09/21/2012 6:25:49 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Charlie Daniels - Payback Time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWwTJj_nosI)
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To: Uncle Chip

She “stands her ground”, but Zimmerman wasn’t supposed to?


32 posted on 09/21/2012 6:25:59 AM PDT by FrankR (They will become our ultimate masters the day we surrender the 2nd Amendment.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

I would love to know how black pastors and churches justifiy their refusal to forgive. I’t almost as though they have never considered the notion that they are required to forgive even slavery.


33 posted on 09/21/2012 6:28:55 AM PDT by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: Uncle Chip

Already have thought it through. I live it Atlanta and under no circumstance will anyone ever be posting videos on Youtube of kicking my wife in the head as she lay defenceless on the street. If they approach in an uncivilized manner in any way, they go to the morgue!


34 posted on 09/21/2012 6:30:14 AM PDT by The Toll
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To: Uncle Chip
When I lived in Houston I used to go by a convenience store every Sunday after mass to pick up a paper. One Sunday morning a big fat mean black woman came in while I was waiting in line. She shouted from the back of the store to the Asian clerk "Where is the Haagen Das?" some flavor or other. When the clerk responded that all they had was on the shelf she started calling him names and getting all pissed off. I made the mistake of saying something along the lines of "It's Sunday morning. Just be nice." She turned her ire on me then. I was glad to get out of there alive.

Bottom line, I think this woman was looking for an excuse to kill a Whitey. I think a lot of Eric Holder's people are.

35 posted on 09/21/2012 6:30:27 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: traderrob6

Well, there was also a passenger in the dead man’s vehicle, though I haven’t seen any statements in the press from him.


36 posted on 09/21/2012 6:31:31 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: from occupied ga

Yep. Gun laws cut both ways. Hard to say that pounding on a car door and screaming is not threatening to a woman.

People think the old west was filled with rude killers. In my opinion it was probably very civi.


37 posted on 09/21/2012 6:36:25 AM PDT by Truth is a Weapon (Truth, it hurts so good.)
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To: Uncle Chip
Just as with the Zimmerman case I want to see the details.Videos...eyewitnesses...forensic evidence,etc,etc.If there are no videos or reliable eyewitnesses then look into the backgrounds of both the shooter and the dead guy.Black people obviously have just as much right to defend themselves when threatened as do whites regardless of the race of the attacker.Zimmerman has the photos of his bloody head.If the woman was,in fact,justified in doing what she did let's hope that she has something equally as convincing.
38 posted on 09/21/2012 6:37:45 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (If Obama's Reelected Imagine The Mess He'll Inherit!)
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To: muawiyah

“CCW has done wonders around here to make all the local drivers much more polite ~ EXCEPT for the ones from Maryland. They behave like there’s no tomorrow! “

You have my permission to dust off any tacky Maryland drivers. Keep in mind that there are many people with Maryland plates who are not originally from Maryland. We get more than our share of imports via the military and gov’t/contractors.


39 posted on 09/21/2012 6:40:09 AM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: muawiyah

“Not at all surprising she shot the guy if he came all the way to her window!”

Huh? How else is he supposed to fulfill his legal obligation to exchange insurance information if she won’t exit the vehicle?


40 posted on 09/21/2012 6:41:16 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: The Toll
Hopefully there will be video from the store to help clear this up a little. If anyone acts hostile towards my wife after an accident I hope she graves’em on the spot!

I absolutely agree, my wife would have done the same thing. But there is a lot speculation to this case, I want to see video and look at all the facts.
41 posted on 09/21/2012 6:43:43 AM PDT by ForAmerica (Texas Conservative Christian Black Man!)
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To: Boogieman
SHOUT ~ you don't need to do the huggy buggy with the other driver.

In this day and age you should always consider the other person to be heavily armed and prepared to fire on you at the slightest misstep.

Be prepared to dive take cover as well.

42 posted on 09/21/2012 6:44:03 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Boogieman
SHOUT ~ you don't need to do the huggy buggy with the other driver.

In this day and age you should always consider the other person to be heavily armed and prepared to fire on you at the slightest misstep.

Be prepared to dive take cover as well.

43 posted on 09/21/2012 6:44:24 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Uncle Chip

Folks, as a lifelong Texan let me tell you something - this is Texas. And for as long as I’ve lived here, in many instances cars are treated like a home. And this exact scenario has happened several times in the past. Jerk a car door open and you die. Plain and simple.

So if you think you’re the Long Ranger or the Caped Avenger, or the father of 12, or anything else - keep you’re freaking hands off of my car door or you will eat a 9mm CorBon.

And yes absolutely - An armed society IS a polite society. Whether I believe that you have somehow disrespected me or not, I’m not jerking your car door open, and I’ll see that you’ll do the same.


44 posted on 09/21/2012 6:45:25 AM PDT by I cannot think of a name
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To: Uncle Chip

If this lady makes a statement at all, it will be that felt she was about to be carjacked, and feared for her life.


45 posted on 09/21/2012 6:46:41 AM PDT by Molon Labbie (Prep. Now. Live Healthy, take your Shooting Iron daily.)
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To: Truth is a Weapon

The thing is, most white people today know that they had better walk on eggshells when dealing with non-whites, otherwise they can be strung up for a hate crime. Unless this guy was totally off his meds, NO WAY would he approach a black woman with road rage.


46 posted on 09/21/2012 6:47:34 AM PDT by AbolishCSEU (Percentage of Income in CS is inversely proportionate to Mother's parenting of children)
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To: Boogieman

I would suggest to stand clear and wait. My wife WILL NOT exit the vehicle until she is certain of her personal safety. Too many bump and robs in this area.


47 posted on 09/21/2012 6:47:59 AM PDT by The Toll
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To: muawiyah

Okay...

glad I don’t live in the world you seem to have created in your head.


48 posted on 09/21/2012 6:51:23 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Uncle Chip

Banglist (((ping)))


49 posted on 09/21/2012 6:51:32 AM PDT by Envisioning (Call me a racist........, one more time..........)
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To: PapaBear3625

Also from that site (not confirmed that it is the same person):

(Sept 6,2012)
“Crystal Jana Scott was released from custody, according to the Harris County Sheriff’s Office. A bond of $200 was set for Mrs. Scott, who is listed as living at 338 Spell in Houston (77022). Scott was reportedly arrested on 4 charges, including improper change of lanes, failure to signal lane change, expired inspection certificate and driving with expired registration.”


50 posted on 09/21/2012 6:52:52 AM PDT by expat1000
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