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Sig SP2022 or Glock 19 4g or 3G
killermosquito ^ | 09/24/2012 | killermosquito

Posted on 09/24/2012 4:37:30 AM PDT by killermosquito

I'm getting ready to buy my first gun. I'm interested in Sig SP2022 or Glock 19 4g or 3G or others you may suggest. I'm 50ish, 6 footish, and about 220lbs. I intend to go for concealed carry.


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1 posted on 09/24/2012 4:37:34 AM PDT by killermosquito
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1911A1....why fire 19 rounds when 1 is all you need...your a big boy...you can handle the weight/recoil. .45 is what you need.


2 posted on 09/24/2012 4:45:29 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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I have a sig and a glock. Both are good weapons but after 10 years of shooting them I prefer the sig on shooting ease, quality, and accuracy.

For concealed carry the double action in the sig is also better. In my opinion.


3 posted on 09/24/2012 4:52:15 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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My call is to find a gun range which rents weapons and has the models you are interested in. Nothing is really comparable to taking the test drive. Finding out how a weapon fits your hand while shooting is really the most important data point and this cannot be related by someone else. Also trigger pull is crucial. One of the most telling signs of a cheap weapon is a bad trigger pull. While this can often be fixed by a trigger job from a good gunsmith, this does depend on model.

This weekend I finally shot a Glock again. I had shot one quite a few years ago and remember it not suiting me because it did not fit my hands well. Having a bit more extensive opportunity to shoot one this weekend after even more years of shooting experience, I’ve noticed this was still the case. The grip and configuration just doesn’t feel good. I was still reasonably accurate, but I would not own one of those guns.

Personally I’m a big fan of SIG guns. However I don’t have any of their polymer framed models so lacking in first hand experience I can’t directly comment on the model you are considering. I do know well and quite like their metal frame pistols (P220, P226, P229). I’d assume they are up to the SIG quality level I am familiar with, but then you know what they say about assume.

Oh, and I would also counsel the .40 S&W over the 9mm as you consider calibers. I’m a partisan of the larger hole school of self defense thinking. Personally I favor .45 ACP in a carry gun, but that doesn’t appear to be in the realm of what you are considering.


4 posted on 09/24/2012 4:52:24 AM PDT by drbuzzard (All animals are created equal, but some are more equal than others.)
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While I do have 2 1911s and like them, I don’t consider them ideal carry weapons, nor weapons for a first time gun owner. They are a bit more difficult in field stripping and are somewhat more finicky in ammo selection and feeding.

I do agree that .45 ACP is a better caliber choice. People should not be intimidated by hearsay about recoil. .45 ACP recoil really is very manageable, not really markedly more than 9mm(in felt recoil).


5 posted on 09/24/2012 4:55:18 AM PDT by drbuzzard (All animals are created equal, but some are more equal than others.)
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The suggestion about checking some out at the shooting range is spot on. Then get your concealed carry license before you buy. I assume most states’ laws are similar to North Carolina, where you don’t need a separate permit if you have the CC.


6 posted on 09/24/2012 4:56:28 AM PDT by wolfpat (Not to know what has been transacted in former times is to be always a child. -- Cicero)
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I’m going to piggyback. The new neighbors ... a live-with-mom 20-something junkie, just kicked out of rehab. Not liking the passers by in my once idyllic cul-de-sac. Anything is possible with these dregs.


7 posted on 09/24/2012 4:58:06 AM PDT by BillyBonebrake
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I have a Sig 9mm and a Springfield XDM .40

My preference for overall hand feel and accuracy is the Springfield, tho I do like the Sig. I carry one or the other depending on mood.


8 posted on 09/24/2012 5:00:07 AM PDT by Adder (No Mo BO)
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I’m personally a fan of the Walther P99 series. The P99AS is a very nice concealed carry pistol, measuring about 6 1/2” in length. The backstrap on the the grip has three interchangeable sizes, making it easier to adjust to smaller or larger hands (plus you can switch them out pretty quickly.) Chambered in 9mm or .40S&W with a 10 and 8 round magazine respectively. The other really snazzy features for CC are the chambered round visual indicator on the top, and the tactile cocking indicator where the hammer would be (plus the decocker in front of the rear sight is flush with the rest of the slide, keeping it from snagging when drawing or holstering in a deep holster.)


9 posted on 09/24/2012 5:00:07 AM PDT by Renderofveils (My loathings are simple: stupidity, oppression, crime, cruelty, soft music. - Nabokov)
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I share your physical profile, have been CHL carry for 15yrs now. Started with 9mm, then .32, then .380 and now, thanks to American innovation am stepping up to .45ACP.

If you can get your hands on one (demand since their release has depleted inventory) I most highly recommend the Springfield XDS compact 45. It comes in at the same size and weight and some very popular 9s, but hassle thing they do not: 6 rounds of 45ACP.

Also, everyone is unique in what they ‘feel’ is too big, too heavy, too small and how to carry. For my size and daily work environment I have settled in on a slide belt holster that has a nice cant, where the butt of the gun leans tight towards my body. Wearing a Cuban, cabana or camp style shirt that has an even hemmed tail offers easy access and concealment. Not easily done during our warm summer months. The belt securely and naturally handles the weight. When you are standing or walking then just off center up front is ideal. When sitting the holster can be slid more to your side.

10 posted on 09/24/2012 5:04:40 AM PDT by Mobilemitter (We must learn to fin >-)> for ourselves.........)
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If its between those 2, get the Sig.

1911A1 or Browning Hi-Power. Thats your real choice.


11 posted on 09/24/2012 5:06:32 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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I like American made guns from American made parts with profits going to Americans. How about a Smith&Wesson M&P? You can chose from the highly compact 9c or Shield lines, full size which are still concealable in 9mm, .40 and .45. The M&P line of autoloaders are typically more accurate than a glock, they don't have polygonal rifling so you can shoot lead, and the stock trigger (while crap compared to a 1911) is as good as a glock. With some work the trigger can become very nice.

I'm in the process of getting rid of some glocks and sigs to replace them with S&Ws so I'm biased.

12 posted on 09/24/2012 5:13:30 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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Glock 19C. The balance of the Plastic Fantastic is unbelievable.

Also consider the Walther PPK, no longer prone to jamming. Nice gun....besides, 007 has great taste in weapons.


13 posted on 09/24/2012 5:14:18 AM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("On the ascent of Olympus, what's a botched bar or two?" -Artur Schnabel)
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If you can afford it, get all of them, and then you won’t have to struggle with deciding to buy them one at a time. Start your collection now.


14 posted on 09/24/2012 5:16:22 AM PDT by pallis
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Where do you live(climate), how do you dress on a daily basis, how does it fit with your lifestyle. Find a weapon that you WILL carry. Will you carry ON you or IN a pocket? Try various weapons for “FEEL”. ETC


15 posted on 09/24/2012 5:18:35 AM PDT by capt B
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Try them out at a range and then go with the one that feels the most comfortable. I prefer 45’s but go with what feels good.


16 posted on 09/24/2012 5:19:47 AM PDT by Ratman83
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To: Delta 21

No choice for me, I’ll take the Hi-Power.


17 posted on 09/24/2012 5:24:20 AM PDT by Dusty Road
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Which ever weapon you can shoot the best and feel comfortable with. It is not another persons place to say what someone else should carry. Go to local range, try several models and see which one you like the best. I would say the caliber isn’t the most important ( min 9mm), shot placement control and mental processing are what matters most in conceal carry. Make sure you go through classes and drills and practice on a regular basis.


18 posted on 09/24/2012 5:31:20 AM PDT by Swingj
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Which ever weapon you can shoot the best and feel comfortable with. It is not another persons place to say what someone else should carry. Go to local range, try several models and see which one you like the best. I would say the caliber isn’t the most important ( min 9mm), shot placement control and mental processing are what matters most in conceal carry. Make sure you go through classes and drills and practice on a regular basis.


19 posted on 09/24/2012 5:31:24 AM PDT by Swingj
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Which ever weapon you can shoot the best and feel comfortable with. It is not another persons place to say what someone else should carry. Go to local range, try several models and see which one you like the best. I would say the caliber isn’t the most important ( min 9mm), shot placement control and mental processing are what matters most in conceal carry. Make sure you go through classes and drills and practice on a regular basis.


20 posted on 09/24/2012 5:31:29 AM PDT by Swingj
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