Posted on 09/26/2012 7:46:27 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
A Sanford judge has set an Oct. 19 hearing so that George Zimmerman's lawyer and prosecutors can argue over what to do about Trayvon Martin's school records.
Trayvon is the unarmed black 17-year-old whom Zimmerman fatally shot Feb. 26 in Sanford.
Earlier this month defense attorney Mark O'Mara issued subpoenas for the school records, making clear that he wants to look at Trayvon's disciplinary records, attendance, test scores and other information.
Assistant State Attorney Bernie de la Rionda accused O'Mara of trying to start a media feeding frenzy – he used the phrase "chum the waters" – with that request.
Trayvon's school records have become a contentious issue because police reported that he was in Sanford the night he was shot – and not in high school in Miami-Dade – because he'd been suspended for 10 days after officials found him with an empty marijuana baggie.
Prosecutors have charged Zimmerman with second-degree murder. He says he acted in self-defense after Trayvon attacked him.
De la Rionda does not oppose the subpoena for Trayvon's school records, he wrote in court paperwork filed, but he doesn't want the information made public.
He asked Circuit Judge Debra S. Nelson to seal whatever they reveal.
De la Rionda also asked the judge to make O'Mara file all future subpoenas under seal, to review each one in secret and decide whether it should be issued and then to evaluate in secret the information it produces and decide whether that information should be kept from the public.
(Excerpt) Read more at articles.orlandosentinel.com ...
Tuco Benedicto Ramirez at 9:27 AM September 26, 2012:
When is the state going to release the tower ping logs for the cell phones, Trayvon's and DD's, plus the T-mobile "with heart sticker" phone found at the scene? All the prosecution released so far are paper phone records. The tower ping logs were released in the Casey Anthoney case, and can be found on google. Why not release the tower ping logs for this case?
In other words this prosecutor knows that the kid's past was dirty and that the revelation of that past along with the photo of Zimmerman's bloody head will mean "not guilty" after 1 hour of deliberation.However,if Osama Obama is reelected it goes without saying that a "not guilty" in state court won't be the end of Zimmerman's problems...by a long shot.
I also thought I had heard that there had been various break ins in that neighborhood since Trayvon came to town. Wouldn’t surprise me if he was casing the neighborhood on his little stroll
I don't know how the prosecutor would get that idea???
the defense did subpoena all his awards as well :)
:: Trayvon is the unarmed black 17-year-old whom Zimmerman fatally shot Feb. 26 in Sanford. ::
The FLA media is *still* hiding Z’s ethicity in an attempt to make the sheeple it was a white guy shooting an unarmed black kid.
Why isn’t Z described in the same manner? ...a 28-year-old hispanic.
That is a correlation borne of pure speculation.
It would be better to think that (altho, still uncorraborated from facts) Trayvon was simply walking down a “purple drank” high.
No bias in that sentence! /S/
Fists are weapons in the hands of someone who knows how to use them -- as is a can of juice and a nearby sidewalk.
This from further commenters to the article:
Wizard8 at 4:10 AM September 26, 2012
There should not even be a trial if the ping logs do not reconcile with the prosecution theory of the State as set forth in the probable cause affidavit. If those ping logs tell a different story from what the State has alleged, then the entire case should be summarily dismissed. Then Zimmerman should sue for malicious prosecution and false arrest as well as suing every media propagandist and unethical attorney who has libeled him. Congresswoman Pink Cowboy Hat should be at the top of the list of defendants named in a federal lawsuit.
Wizard8 at 3:35 AM September 26, 2012
Ping logs for the cell phone found at the scene near the decedent could provide GPS location tracking data for that phone to within a radius of 10 meters and real time call history accurate to the second for conversations. Such forensic evidence is conclusive and accurate. Likewise the ping logs will show the same information for Zimmerman’s phone. Conclusive forensic evidence of this nature could dispel unsubstantiated and dubious theories regarding the events which occurred. So why has it not been a priority business that a forensic report by a certified forensic expert be forthcoming concerning the ping logs when the State AG Pam Bondi promised that not a stone would be left unturned in the State’s investigation of the death of Trayvon Martin ? Clearly for many good obvious reasons the forensic evidence related to the cell phone ping logs should have been a focus of the early investigation in March and yet 6 months later there is still nothing made public about the cell phone ping logs. It is very suspicious why a key forensic evidence report has remained undisclosed. The absence of disclosure causes reasonable belief that the forensic evidence report has been suppressed because it may disclose there is no factual evidentiary basis for the State’s case. Investigative reporters should investigate this and report what is discovered.
DevilsAdvocate1 at 4:46 AM September 26, 2012
You sure you want to pin your hopes on a method tracking that has that decree of inaccuracy? We know they were both in the vicinty of that cut through. Once you start talking margins of error down to 30 feet, that would be.... 2826 square feet. That would be a combined margin of error, between Zim AND Trayvon of about 5652 square feet, which would be... well, lets just say it would still be a lot of ground to verify.
Wizard8 at 5:40 AM September 26, 2012
@DevilsAdvocate1 Ping log times are accurate to the second and verify connectivity better than phone bills rounded to minutes which may also have billing errors and require confirmation also with the MAC address in the phone that is the hardware ID code that is like that phones digital DNA. The GPS location data could show that Trayvon eluded surveillance by Zimmerman and first made it home safely, while Zimmerman was at the other end of that row of townhomes. The GPS data may confirm conclusively by forensic evidence aspects of the State’s prosecution theory. Or in the alternative the forensic evidence may show the State’s allegations have no factual basis. Anyone who is interested in the actual truth of what did occur is going to look at those ping logs. There is no avoiding that reckoning. So why is such a key forensic evidence report not disclosed ? Maybe people don’t want the truth so any forensic evidence that may reveal the truth is avoided or concealed. It isn’t about square feet involving the location so much as it is the proximity, distance apart and times associated with those phones accurate to the second. That information is not confidential in terms of violating the privacy of the persons involved as their identities are already known. It is precision about the times and locations that is needed for advancing a provable theory about what occurred.
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....minor editorial correction for factual accuracy....
Persecution lawyer De la Rionda is requesting secrecy. Looks like this legal midget wants a return to the Spanish Inquisition and the English Star Courts.
Despicable, Mr. Persecution Lawyer, totally despicable!
I think the "black 17 year old" part can be left there as it adds to the facts and accuracy not in dispute.
As far as "assailant": the Martin family are no longer disputing that the fact that at the time of his death Trayvon was assailing Zimmerman.
His step mother Alicia Martin on Dr Phil claimed that Zimmerman didn't try hard enough to push the assailing Trayvon off of him. She never disputed the assailing part.
I saw the Dr. Phil show episode by coincidence...
... I thought Dr. Phil was the biggest lying criminal on the set that day....
jmho.... hagd....
My husband was way stronger than his sons...until they became six foot tall young men into varsity sports. (However, he’s meaner than they could ever dream of being, so it all evens out. LOL).
This is just to say, Zimmerman was probably not as strong as Martin. In addition, Martin was bigger than him and practiced his street fighting hobby “knock out king.” All these claims that Martin was an innocent “child” at the mercy of a stronger “adult” are bs. My sons, at high school age, could not be confused with “children.”
You mean Dr "take responsibility for your own actions" Phil who kept referring to the 17 year old teenage assailant as a "child" who shouldn't be held accountable for his actions??
Here is an “unarmed” 17 year old who killed a man with one punch and has been indicted:
“A 17-year-old Sauk Rapids boy was charged Tuesday with one count each of second-degree murder, first-degree manslaughter and first-degree assault in connection with the death of a man punched once in an alley Thursday night in south St. Cloud.”
http://www.sctimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2012309250026&adjusted=1
Someone needs to tell the MSM and Whorlando Slantinel that “unarmed” 17 year olds can kill with their fists.
I believe he went to my alma mater, North Miami Beach Senior High....”Home of the Chargers”. I graduated class of ‘79.
We didn’t need any metal detectors back then. It was an integrated school, but very safe, no trouble at all.
Some Black students were bused in from other neighborhoods, and some Blacks lived nearby in the Washington Park area. The school had to have been at least 60% Jewish, a mix of middle and upper middle class, along with some Southerners (from Ives Estates), Cubans, and Italian New Yorkers.
It was one of those ugly modern schools with no windows (except in the teachers lounge, of course) to save on air conditioning bills. The 163rd St. shopping center was right across the street, one the premier outdoor malls in the country when it was built in the late ‘50s.
I think that homeless Miami face eater went there too. You can’t make this stuff up!
Sincere thanks, Chip, for staying on top of this.
Exactly.
Oh come on. You are seriously parsing for effect. Unarmed is a perfectly useful word that means not carrying a weapon. Expand the definition of armed to fists, feet, and elbows, then we lose a perfectly good word, as everyone would always be armed to one degree or another. Even quadriplegics can potentially bite.
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