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RUSSIANS STILL SMASHING FORWARD ON GERMANSí FLANK AT STALINGRAD (9/27/42)
Microfilm-New York Times archives, Monterey Public Library | 9/27/42 | Hanson W. Baldwin, Robert Trumbull, Luther Huston, A.C. Sedgwick

Posted on 09/27/2012 4:20:25 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson

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TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: milhist; realtime; worldwarii
Free Republic University, Department of History presents World War II Plus 70 Years: Seminar and Discussion Forum
First session: September 1, 2009. Last date to add: September 2, 2015.
Reading assignment: New York Times articles delivered daily to students on the 70th anniversary of original publication date. (Previously posted articles can be found by searching on keyword “realtime” Or view Homer’s posting history .)
To add this class to or drop it from your schedule notify Admissions and Records (Attn: Homer_J_Simpson) by freepmail. Those on the Realtime +/- 70 Years ping list are automatically enrolled. Course description, prerequisites and tuition information is available at the bottom of Homer’s profile. Also visit our general discussion thread.
1 posted on 09/27/2012 4:20:29 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson
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Selections from West Point Atlas for the Second World War
Papua, New Guinea, 1942
Allied Advance Across Owen Stanley Mountains, 26 Sept.-15 Nov. 1942
The Solomons: Guadalcanal and Florida, 1942
Southwest Russia, 1942: German Advance to Stalingrad, Operations, 24 July-18 November 1942
The Far East and the Pacific, 1941: Status of Forces and Allied Theater Boundaries, 2 July 1942
India-Burma, 1942: Allied Lines of Communication, 1942-1943
2 posted on 09/27/2012 4:21:42 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
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John Toland, The Rising Sun: The Decline and Fall of the Japanese Empire, 1936-1945

3 posted on 09/27/2012 4:22:57 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: r9etb; PzLdr; dfwgator; Paisan; From many - one.; rockinqsranch; 2banana; henkster; meandog; ...
Nazis’ Line Pierced – 2
Solomons Action Develops into Battle for South Pacific (Baldwin) – 3-4
Halsey Decorates Heroes of Pacific (Trumbull) – 5
War News Summarized – 5
Carrier Lexington Leaves the Ways (Huston) – 6
The Texts of the Day’s Communiques on Fighting in Various Zones – 7-8

The News of the Week in Review
Russia’s “Verdun” On the Volga Upsets the Axis Timetable (photo and map) – 9-10
Twenty News Questions – 11
Winter’s Shadow Falls Across the Russian Front (map) – 12
Time-Out Periods Mark Desert War (Sedgwick) – 13
Pontiac Ad (I guess there aren’t going to be any ’43 models to advertise – Homer) – 14
Answers to Twenty News Questions – 15

4 posted on 09/27/2012 4:25:00 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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http://www.onwar.com/chrono/1942/sep42/f27sep42.htm

Australians force Japanese retreat
Sunday, September 27, 1942 www.onwar.com

Australians mortar crew firing in New Guinea [photo at link]

In New Guinea... The Australian offensives forces the withdrawal of Japanese troops back down the Kokado Trail.


5 posted on 09/27/2012 4:26:53 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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http://homepage.ntlworld.com/andrew.etherington/frame.htm

September 27th, 1942

UNITED KINGDOM: HMCS Weyburn, a Flower-class corvette, LCdr. Thomas Maitland Wade Golby RCNR, CO, arrived with the 20-ship Sydney to Londonderry convoy SC-100. Four ships from the convoy were lost: three to U-boats and one to a collision.
SC-100 was escorted by the American A3 Escort Group. It consisted of the Secretary-class USCG cutters Campbell and Spencer and the Flower-class corvettes HMS Bittersweet, Mayflower, Nasturtium as well as HMCS Trillium and Rosthern.
The Canadian corvettes Lunenburg and Weyburn were assigned for passage to the UK and subsequent employment on Operation Torch, the North African landings. With nine escorts, the 20-ship convoy should have been adequately protected. However, the lack of group cohesion, inadequate equipment in the Canadian corvettes, and inexperience of the Canadian ships led to a poor effort by the A3 group. In particular, the lack of adequate tactical radios systems in the Canadian corvettes prevented the group commander from effectively directing the action from his well-equipped flagship. (Dave Shirlaw)

U.S.S.R.: Units of the German 6 Armee succeed in capturing most of the strategic Mamayev Kurgan Hill at Stalingrad, and penetrating the heavily defended Red October and Barricades housing estates. (Jack McKillop)

The survivors of the 92nd Naval Infantry Brigade cross to the island of Golodnyy. Here a composite battalion is formed out of the survivors. (Russell Folsom) (215 Chap. 3)

LIBYA: US Army, Middle East Air Force B-24s are dispatched to attack an 8,000-ton vessel at Bengasi. No bombs hit the target but several straddle a jetty in the harbor.

JAPAN: Tokyo: Japan’s new foreign minister, Masayuki Tani, says he will continue the policy of non-aggression towards Soviet Russia.

CHINA: 4 B-25 Mitchells of the US Tenth Air Force’s China Air Task Force over southwestern China blast Mengshih, claiming about 30 trucks and 400 troops destroyed; The B-25s also bomb Tengchung, leaving it aflame; 3 flights of P-40s strafe targets of opportunity along the Burma Road, claiming 15 trucks destroyed and 5 barracks groups damaged. (Jack McKillop)

NEW GUINEA: The Japanese begin their withdrawal back down the Kokoda Track from Ioribaiwa, as the Australians begin their attack.

US Fifth Air Force A-20 Havocs continue to pound forces north of Ioribaiwa in the area between Kagi and Efogi and in the Myola and Menari areas; the Japanese abandon Ioribaiwa Ridge and are in full retreat under heavy pressure from Australian ground forces. (Jack McKillop)

MacArthur forces Blamey to relieve General Rowell. (William L. Howard)

SOLOMON ISLANDS: In the combined Raider - 1st - 7th Marines attack across the Matinakau River, at the One Log Bridge, on Guadalcanal, Major Kenneth Bailey is killed. Winner of the MOH at Bloody Ridge, he is the Executive Officer of the Raiders. Battles at both the One Log Bridge and the mouth of the River are fierce and the Marines make no headway. 3 companies of the 1-7 are ordered to land west of the river mouth by boat. These Marines are cut off through quick reaction by Col. Oka. Having no radio, they use their “T” shirts to spell out help. Col. Puller takes the destroyer Monssen and several landing craft to evacuate them. Using the firepower of the destroyer, the Japanese are pushed back and the Marines are evacuated under heavy fire.

Signalman First Class Douglas A. Munro, the only U.S. Coast Guardsman to be awarded the Medal of Honor in World War II, is killed on Guadalcanal. The citation for his award reads in part, “For extraordinary heroism and conspicuous gallantry in action above and beyond the call of duty as Petty Officer in Charge of a group of 24 Higgins boats, engaged in the evacuation of a battalion of marines trapped by enemy Japanese forces at Point Cruz Guadalcanal, on 27 September 1942. After making preliminary plans for the evacuation of nearly 500 beleaguered marines, Munro, under constant strafing by enemy machine guns on the island, and at great risk of his life, daringly led 5 of his small craft toward the shore. As he closed the beach, he signalled the others to land, and then in order to draw the enemy’s fire and protect the heavily loaded boats, he valiantly placed his craft with its 2 small guns as a shield between the beachhead and the Japanese. When the perilous task of evacuation was nearly completed, Munro was instantly killed by enemy fire, but his crew, 2 of whom were wounded, carried on until the last boat had loaded and cleared the beach.” (Jack McKillop)

After 2-weeks of bad weather, IJN aircraft renew air attacks. 18 G4M “Betty” bombers escorted by 27 A6M “Zeke” fighters are engated by 16 USMC and 18USNF4F Wildcats. The Americans shoot down 6 G4Ms and 2 “Zekes;” an SBD Dauntless is destroyed on the ground and 3 SBDs and 5 TBF Avengers are damaged.

Aviation Pilot First Class Lee P. Mankin, an F4F pilot assigned to the USN’s Fighting Squadron Five (VF-5), shoots down an A6M “Zeke” and becomes the only US enlisted ace in WWII. (Jack McKillop)

GILBERT ISLANDS: Japanese troops land on Kuria Island. (Jack McKillop)

AUSTRALIA: HMAS Warrnambool and HMAS Kalgoorlie are sent from Darwin to pick up HMAS Voyager’s crew, all of whom have survived with seven minor casualties from the Japanese air raids. One crewmen who has been reunited with this brother, a member of the 2/2nd AIF, has asked to remain with Sparrow force. (William L. Howard)(188, 189, 190, 191)

TERRITORY OF ALASKA: ALEUTIANS: Shore and harbor areas of Kiska Island are bombed by the US Eleventh Air Force: 8 B-24 Liberators and a B-17 Flying Fortress, escorted by a P-38 Lightning, 13 P-39Airacobras and 4 P-40s take off first, and are followed by 6 unescorted B-24s; weather turns back 13 of the fighters; an LB-30 Liberator flies photo-weather reconnaissance over Attu, Buldir, the Semichi, Agattu, and Amchitka Islands. (Jack McKillop)

U.S.A.: The Glenn Miller Orchestra played their last concert in Passaic, New Jersey before Alton Glenn Miller went into the U.S. Army. It was a sad event for the band members and they could not finish playing the band’s theme song, “Moonlight Serenade,” at the end of the concert. (Jack McKillop)

Destroyer USS William D Porter launched. (Dave Shirlaw)

ATLANTIC OCEAN: The German raider Stier, 4 ships of 29,000 tons this cruise, attempts to attack the Liberty ship Stephen Hopkins. The Hopkins, armed with only 1 4 inch gun fights back. This unexpected resistance is successful, and the Stier sinks, but the Stephen Hopkins also sinks.
The SS Stephen Hopkins, a Liberty Ship armed with a World War I Four Inch Fifty shell gun on the stern and a 37 MM on the bow, was sailing from Capetown, South Africa to Paramaribo, Dutch Guinea, when she was attacked by the raider STIER and her escort the blockade runner TANNENFELS. The Master kept the stern of the Hopkins towards the raiders and eventually the Liberty Ship sank the STIER and badly damaged the TANNENFELS. The Hopkins also sank, a mass of twisted metal, and thirty-two of the 40 member merchant crew and nine of the fifteen Navy gunners were killed. The Liberty ship expended all its four inch ammunition and all the four inch gunners were killed and the last five rounds were fired by a Merchant Marine Engine Cadet before he was also killed. The only award ever made, that I can determine, was that the ship was declared a “Gallant Ship.” (Tom Bower and Jack McKillop)

- The German submarine U-165 is sunk in the Bay of Biscay west of Lorient, in position 47.50N, 03.22W, probably by air-laid mines. All 51 hands on the U-boat are lost. (Jack McKillop)


6 posted on 09/27/2012 4:28:05 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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U.S.A.: The Glenn Miller Orchestra played their last concert in Passaic, New Jersey before Alton Glenn Miller went into the U.S. Army. It was a sad event for the band members and they could not finish playing the band's theme song, "Moonlight Serenade," at the end of the concert.

“Moonlight Serenade”

7 posted on 09/27/2012 4:29:10 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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September 26, 1942:


"About 75,000 Jews in France (mostly foreign) were deported; others were confined to concentration camps.
About 25,000 Belgian and 100,000 Dutch Jews were also deported, most to their deaths."


"An antisemitic and anti-Gaullist propaganda poster depicts French General Charles de Gaulle as the puppet of the Jews.
The poster's headline reads, "The True Face of Free France."
When combined with the portrait of the general standing in front of stereotypically portrayed Jews, these words clearly communicated the desired message.
As leader of the Free French government-in-exile in London, de Gaulle's opposition to the Nazis was well established.
The Nazi propaganda machine sought to discredit its opponents by linking them with 'international Jewry.' "


"Shmuel Kaplinski was a member of Vilna, Lithuania's United Partisan Organization, a wide-ranging alliance comprised of members from numerous youth groups.
On September 23, 1942, Kaplinski helped 80 to 100 FPO members escape from the ghetto via the Vilna sewer system.
Once outside of the ghetto, the group rendezvoused with the Kailis partisans, who operated in the nearby Rudninkai Forest."


September 27, 1942:


"This false identity card was issued to David Donoff in September 1942.
The Donoff family engaged in forgery operations for the Jewish Resistance in France.
All seven siblings of the Donoff family were members of a Resistance organization known as Éclaireurs israélites de France.
Of the seven siblings, the two brothers were killed for participating in Resistance operations; the five sisters survived the war."


"Hampered by the British White Paper of 1939, which severely restricted Jewish immigration to Palestine, members of the Yishuv, the organized Jewish community in Palestine, agonized as they learned of the deportations and deaths.
Here, Yishuv members gather before the tomb of the prophet Zechariah on the Mount of Olives to mourn those who had died at the hands of the Nazis.
The group recalled the prophet's words spoken in earlier times of persecution:


"This obviously staged photograph shows Jews beating Jews in the Kolbuszowa (Poland) Ghetto.
The Nazis used such propaganda photos to establish that Jews were animals who often turned on each other, just like the rats to which the Nazis often compared them.
The implication was clear: If the Jews did not care about themselves, why should the German people care about them?"



8 posted on 09/27/2012 5:24:37 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Interesting to see the Pontiac dealer service ad. I can imagine that the wartime lack of new cars, tires, and eventual gasoline rationing must have ruined car dealerships.


9 posted on 09/27/2012 6:37:20 AM PDT by iowamark
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"Hampered by the British White Paper of 1939, which severely restricted Jewish immigration to Palestine, members of the Yishuv, the organized Jewish community in Palestine, agonized as they learned of the deportations and deaths.

Blaming the British White Paper of 1939 for preventing Jews escaping the Holocaust is less than accurate. The restrictive immigration policy went into effect within a few months of Germany invading Poland... a little late to be thinking about going to Palestine.

Prior to the White Paper of 1939, my understanding is that all a Jew had to do to get a visa to Palestine was purchase land. I don't recall there being a minimum purchase size either. Why didn't more European Jews see the writing on the wall prior to 1939 and at least buy a plot of land in Palestine as an insurance policy?

Furthermore, other nations had unfilled visas. The Dominican Republic in particular had 100K visa's available for European Jews, almost none of which were filled. That the Dominican Republic had so many unfilled visa's should bear witness to the state of denial that European Jews were in.

10 posted on 09/27/2012 6:59:05 AM PDT by fso301
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I think at the beginning of the war only a very few people thought that a civilized European country could embark on something as evil and barbarous as the Holocaust.


11 posted on 09/27/2012 11:50:15 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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I think at the beginning of the war only a very few people thought that a civilized European country could embark on something as evil and barbarous as the Holocaust.

True but the possibility of a descent into savagery was not without precedent. By 1939, Western Europeans had a generation to absorb stories of the horrors being carried out across Russia by the communists.

Denial certainly played a part in the predicament of European Jews. However, an interesting question for a historian might be why Jews who did attempt to flee Europe such as the passengers aboard the SS St. Louis did not attempt to go to a nation such as the Dominican Republic which had open visas available?

12 posted on 09/27/2012 2:35:31 PM PDT by fso301
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I have never read a history of the St. Louis that explains why they didn’t go to the Dominican.


13 posted on 09/27/2012 2:46:14 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: colorado tanker

We followed that pretty closely a few years back. Quite the saga.


14 posted on 09/27/2012 5:02:01 PM PDT by CougarGA7 ("History is politics projected into the past" - Michael Pokrovski)
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The restrictive immigration policy went into effect within a few months of Germany invading Poland... a little late to be thinking about going to Palestine.

You probably need to brush up on your history a bit. Eichmann was allowing Jews to buy their way toward Palestine from Vienna as late as the fall of 1940. And Jews in the pipeline were still trying to run the gauntlet into 1942.

After the war started, the Soviets probably killed the most Jews trying to reach Palestine, the Germans were second, and the militant Jews were third in the number killed. But British hands certainly were not clean.

15 posted on 09/27/2012 5:17:37 PM PDT by PAR35
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You probably need to brush up on your history a bit.

Why?

16 posted on 09/27/2012 5:27:51 PM PDT by fso301
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To: fso301

So you get it right, next time.


17 posted on 09/27/2012 6:49:27 PM PDT by PAR35
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So you get it right, next time.

Please be more specific. Are you sure you didn't mean to address your post to a different poster?

18 posted on 09/27/2012 10:58:37 PM PDT by fso301
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No, I checked back up the thread. I quoted you, and responded pointing out your error. I don’t know that repeating myself is going to be productive. But as I pointed out, the invasion of Poland wasn’t a cut off for trying to get to Palestine, if you could get past the Russians, British, and their puppets.

The Germans just wanted the Reich Judenrein - if they’d leave their money and assets and get on the boat, that worked for them.


19 posted on 09/28/2012 4:17:21 PM PDT by PAR35
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No, I checked back up the thread. I quoted you, and responded pointing out your error. I don’t know that repeating myself is going to be productive. But as I pointed out, the invasion of Poland wasn’t a cut off for trying to get to Palestine,

What error? Where did I ever say the invasion of Poland was a cutoff for emmigration from Europe to Palestine? The context of my post was that the British White Paper of 1939 was not as significant a barrier to emmigration from Europe as many make it out to be. How you could have interpreted that as a statement about Nazi Zionism I don't know.

20 posted on 09/28/2012 8:14:39 PM PDT by fso301
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You wrote what you wrote. “The restrictive immigration policy went into effect within a few months of Germany invading Poland... a little late to be thinking about going to Palestine.” Your meaning may remain known only to you.


21 posted on 09/28/2012 8:52:25 PM PDT by PAR35
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You wrote what you wrote. “The restrictive immigration policy went into effect within a few months of Germany invading Poland... a little late to be thinking about going to Palestine.”

Your meaning may remain known only to you.

I see you are not familiar with the British White Paper of 1939. Now we are getting somewhere.

The British White Paper of 1939 limited immigration to Palestine at ~10,000 per year... regardless of from where they were coming. Starting approx 6/39, Eichmann could have sold 100K passes per month for German Jews to leave for Palestine but the British wouldn't have let more than 10K per year in.

By 9/30, Germany, France, England and Russia were at war making it late for anyone to be thinking about getting out of Europe.

22 posted on 09/28/2012 9:24:27 PM PDT by fso301
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“By 9/30, Germany, France, England and Russia were at war making it late for anyone to be thinking about getting out of Europe. “ And THAT is where you are going wrong. The onset of the war had nothing to do with ‘making it too late’.


23 posted on 09/29/2012 6:07:40 AM PDT by PAR35
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And THAT is where you are going wrong. The onset of the war had nothing to do with ‘making it too late’.

You are now attempting to say things I never said. I've never said the onset of hostilities made it "too late" for emmigration to Palestine and I think you know that.

Any reasonable person should understand that once hostilities begin, it becomes late to escape the theater of conflict due to the hazards of doing so increasing exponentially.

24 posted on 09/29/2012 7:12:44 AM PDT by fso301
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To: CougarGA7; colorado tanker; Homer_J_Simpson
colorado tanker wrote:
I have never read a history of the St. Louis that explains why they didn’t go to the Dominican.
CougarGA7 responded with:
We followed that pretty closely a few years back. Quite the saga.

I did read Homer's St. Louis thread after he directed me to it the other day and my question remains as to why the St. Louis did not sail for the Dominican Republic? Based on the articles and links Homer posted, the $500 per passenger bond required by the Dominican Republic did not appear to be a problem. Was it that the passengers themselves preferred returning to Europe rather than going to the Dominican Republic?

25 posted on 09/29/2012 7:45:23 AM PDT by fso301
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To: fso301

Thanks for your clarification.

“It becomes late”
“making it late”
“a little late”

Doesn’t mean that it’s too late. I think I understand what you are saying now.


26 posted on 09/29/2012 4:14:40 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: fso301
I can speculate as to what the St. Louis passengers were thinking in passing up the Dominican Republic offer.

They may have believed they would still be able to persuade the American or Canadian authorities to let them in. I read somewhere the captain had a fallback plan to run aground in Florida to let them run for it, but the Coast Guard shadowed him so he couldn't do it. By the time they knew for sure America was not an option they may have only had enough food and fuel for the return to Europe.

Another possibility is I read many thought if they could get into Cuba they could find a way to get to America and they may not have planned on a long term stay. The Dominican may not have afforded the same opportunity.

As I said, just my speculation.

27 posted on 10/01/2012 12:00:17 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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By the time they knew for sure America was not an option they may have only had enough food and fuel for the return to Europe.

I'm not sure at what point the decision was made return to Europe but here are a few approximate water distances via Google Earth's ruler tool.

Havana - Santa Domingo, Dominican Republic = 1,700 miles
Havana - Portsmouth, England = 4,700 miles

New York - Santa Domingo, Dominican Republic = 1,900 miles
New York - Portsmouth, England = 3,600 miles

28 posted on 10/02/2012 6:52:04 AM PDT by fso301
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The point is that if you go to the Dominican and get the same treatment you got in Havana, you don’t have enough food and fuel for the return trip to Europe.


29 posted on 10/02/2012 12:36:33 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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The point is that if you go to the Dominican and get the same treatment you got in Havana, you don’t have enough food and fuel for the return trip to Europe.

OK.

I suspect more written record as to why the passengers/captain did not take up the Dominican Republic on it's offer of sanctuary exists, it's just that for whatever reason, historians have not gone down that path.

30 posted on 10/02/2012 5:46:34 PM PDT by fso301
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