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'Babylon 5' star Michael O'Hare dies at 60
WXIA Channel 11 Atlanta | September 28, 2012 | Michael King

Posted on 09/29/2012 12:56:27 PM PDT by EveningStar

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KEYWORDS: b5; babylon5; broadway; jeffreysinclair; michaelohare; obituary; sciencefiction; scifi
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1 posted on 09/29/2012 12:56:35 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

Sad news.

B-5 was one the best sci-fi series ever.


2 posted on 09/29/2012 12:58:03 PM PDT by Islander7 (There is no septic system so vile, so filthy, the left won't drink from to further their agenda)
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To: Islander7

I don’t know how nationally he is known, but Garibaldi (Jerry Doyle) became an excellent AM talk show host. Unfortunately, they took him off the air because he didn’t worship Allah.


3 posted on 09/29/2012 1:02:33 PM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus

The Jerry Doyle Show isn’t on any more? I used to listen to it on streaming audio off KDWN in Las Vegas. I love his voice, and it was fun when Dwight Schultz would guest-host.


4 posted on 09/29/2012 1:11:28 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("In the kingdom of the blind, sight is a crime and mentioning what you see is a gaffe.")
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To: EveningStar; Anoreth

Sorry to hear that. I liked Sinclair better than Sheridan; he was so ... opaque ... in a good way.


5 posted on 09/29/2012 1:13:18 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("In the kingdom of the blind, sight is a crime and mentioning what you see is a gaffe.")
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To: Tax-chick

I pick up the show in Tulsa. And go with God Mr. O’Hare.


6 posted on 09/29/2012 1:13:43 PM PDT by guido911 (Islamic terrorists are members http://www.freerepublic.com/foof the "ROP", the "religion of pu*&ies")
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To: dangus

We get Jerry Doyle on WRKO Boston M-F 10PM to 1AM.


7 posted on 09/29/2012 1:14:06 PM PDT by surrey
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To: surrey; guido911

Oh, good. I’ll have to get someone to reprogram the station into our internet radio. It was on 3-6 p.m., and it’s not unusual for me to be in the kitchen during those hours.


8 posted on 09/29/2012 1:18:14 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("In the kingdom of the blind, sight is a crime and mentioning what you see is a gaffe.")
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To: Tax-chick

I liked Sinclair better than Sheridan as well.


9 posted on 09/29/2012 1:22:52 PM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: wally_bert

Ditto


10 posted on 09/29/2012 1:24:58 PM PDT by Arthurio
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To: wally_bert

But I liked G’Kar the best.


11 posted on 09/29/2012 1:25:22 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("In the kingdom of the blind, sight is a crime and mentioning what you see is a gaffe.")
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To: EveningStar

Zathras honors the One.


12 posted on 09/29/2012 1:26:51 PM PDT by Zathras
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To: EveningStar

That’s too bad. He was one of the only B5 cast members who seemed to understand acting is a skill and not a quality you automatically inherit when a camera’s pointed at you.

That being said, I grew to respect several of the cast members - like the guy who played Sheridan and the female officer - when I watched a commentary track on one of the B5 DVD’s where they all acknowledged their acting in the show was horrible and made fun of their performances.

I thought, “You guys are OK.”


13 posted on 09/29/2012 1:43:25 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny ("Allah" isn't a god. It's a mental disorder.)
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To: EveningStar; a fool in paradise

I thought he wasn’t dead.


14 posted on 09/29/2012 1:44:47 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: dangus

I think Tune In Radio carries the show. That is where I listen to Glenn Beck at home and when I am at the gym in the morning. I have the ap on my TV and my smart phone.


15 posted on 09/29/2012 1:51:38 PM PDT by airedale
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To: EveningStar
Sinclair: No. We have to stay here. And there's a simple reason why. Ask ten different scientists about the environment, population control, genetics, and you'll get ten different answers, but there's one thing every scientist on the planet agrees on. Whether it happens in a hundred years or a thousand years or a million years, eventually our Sun will grow cold and go out. When that happens, it won't just take us. It'll take Marilyn Monroe, and Lao-Tzu, and Einstein, and Morobuto, and Buddy Holly, and Aristophanes…[and] all of this…all of this…was for nothing. Unless we go to the stars.

Bab 5 was my favorite scifi series. Lots of libertarian ideas wrapped up in it along with Christian symbolism. Godspeed, Sinclair. Go to the stars.
16 posted on 09/29/2012 1:54:42 PM PDT by arderkrag (An Unreconstructed Georgian, Forever in Rebellion.)
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To: EveningStar
And we have to add another name, to the list of B5 stars who are gone: Richard Biggs (1960–2004), Tim Choate (1954–2004), Andreas Katsulas (1946–2006), and now Michael O'Hare.

Sinclair's last words, of the last episode ("Chrysalis") of Season 1, were  "Nothing's the same anymore."

No, it isn't.

RIP Mr. O'Hare.

17 posted on 09/29/2012 1:56:24 PM PDT by holymoly (WTF? Is this thing double posting again!?)
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To: EveningStar

Damn, another one beyond the rim.


19 posted on 09/29/2012 1:57:37 PM PDT by discostu (Put another dime in the jukebox.)
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To: arderkrag; Admin Moderator

Double post surprise, browser tarded out. Please delete one of these.


20 posted on 09/29/2012 2:00:46 PM PDT by arderkrag (An Unreconstructed Georgian, Forever in Rebellion.)
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To: discostu

We are not now that strength which in old days
Moved earth and heaven; that which we are, we are;
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.


21 posted on 09/29/2012 2:01:11 PM PDT by Bidimus1
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To: holymoly

Wow. They all had short life spans.


22 posted on 09/29/2012 2:05:15 PM PDT by 2111USMC (aim small, miss small)
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To: dangus

When did that happen because he was just on 104.7 in Pittsburgh last night?


23 posted on 09/29/2012 2:09:05 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("On the ascent of Olympus, what's a botched bar or two?" -Artur Schnabel)
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To: EveningStar

It was said that the creators of B5 were told to hold off on making B5 and then the concept was ripped off to make Deep Space 9 before Babylon 5 was in production


24 posted on 09/29/2012 2:09:35 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: Tax-chick

Out of the alien cast it is a tie between GKar and Londo.


25 posted on 09/29/2012 2:11:41 PM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: arderkrag

B5 seemed fair in terms of military life and religion. None of the Star Trek later incarnations weren’t fair at all to either. Isn’t JMS an aethiest?


26 posted on 09/29/2012 2:14:13 PM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: EveningStar

Bummer, I just started re-watching the series last night.


27 posted on 09/29/2012 2:20:42 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Psycho_Bunny

Damn. He used to live across the street from me on the Upper West Side of Manhattan. He asked me out once. On our one and only date- the day of the OJ Simpson verdict, he took me a coffee shop. When we sat down, I said, “What year did you graduate from Harvard?”

He said, “You know, I really don’t feel like talking tonight.” Needless to say it was a very odd date.

Sorry to hear about this. Way, way, too young.


28 posted on 09/29/2012 2:33:18 PM PDT by somerville
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To: dangus; All
Jerry Doyle's show is alive and well. I subscribe to his website at $30 a year(!) and get all of his shows automatically downloaded via a some podcatcher software - commercial free.

Funny stuff - this month he was talking serious trash about Michael O'Hare. He said that he was a horrible actor and a horrible person. Called him a "tool" several times. I guess they didn't get along too well on the set. He also said O'Hare was so wooden that he and his fellow cast members were all asking the production team if they were "really keeping this guy". They had to keep him for one season due to having so much money and effort wrapped up in him. They couldn't wait to get rid of him, though!

I agree with Jerry about O'Hare being a horrible actor, though. The guy was terribad in B5. I know I have never seen him in anything else - with good reason!

29 posted on 09/29/2012 2:33:29 PM PDT by America_Right (I am the 53%. Please get out of the cart and help me pull for a while.)
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To: holymoly
And we have to add another name, to the list of B5 stars who are gone: Richard Biggs (1960–2004), Tim Choate (1954–2004), Andreas Katsulas (1946–2006), and now Michael O'Hare.

Don't forget Jeff Conaway (Zach). 1950-2011.

30 posted on 09/29/2012 2:37:24 PM PDT by America_Right (I am the 53%. Please get out of the cart and help me pull for a while.)
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To: EveningStar

....and the Big Guy said “Hello old friend”


31 posted on 09/29/2012 2:51:13 PM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: EveningStar

One odd trivia bit about B5 is that J. Michael Straczynski had been a writer for The Real Ghost Busters animated series, which had some rather serious undertones for a cartoon. It also had an odd development history, going from a good cartoon, to an awful spinoff, then resurrected as a good serious second generation cartoon.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0090506/

One thing I noticed about it was the New York had become mostly abandoned and was in decay. There were episodes with apocalyptic themes. The overall mood was that they were slowly losing the war.

In a way it might have paved the way for the serious, dark Marvel comics superhero cartoons that followed.


32 posted on 09/29/2012 2:57:50 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (DIY Bumper Sticker: "THREE TIMES,/ DEMOCRATS/ REJECTED GOD")
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To: Psycho_Bunny
The acting quality was fine ~ we've gone back through the entire series about 3 years ago ~ brought in some of the inlaws to watch ~ adult types ~ and they fell in love with the show.

Nobody expected Shakespearian actors ~ and with a series that long folks who acted "Normal" fit the bill.

33 posted on 09/29/2012 3:08:38 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: wally_bert; Tax-chick

GKar and Londo are kitty kats ~ we know all about them.


34 posted on 09/29/2012 3:12:07 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

I thought Real Ghostbusters was a good cartoon. My only complaint was Slimer was a constant comic relief. The writing was good but that is normal for JMS. In the scriptwriting book written by JMS, he writes about an unused script involving Ray, a steamboat, something about a spirit girl and having to stay in this life. It sounded moving. I will have to dig out the book for a refresher.


35 posted on 09/29/2012 3:26:16 PM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: EveningStar

And so it begins...


36 posted on 09/29/2012 3:31:07 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: muawiyah

;-).

I agree with you about the acting. In the first season (which I didn’t see until we got the DVDs), the acting was a bit wooden and tentative, but by the second season everyone was having fun with it and the characters seemed like “themselves.”

Anoreth wanted to be Susan Ivanova when she grew up.


37 posted on 09/29/2012 3:37:27 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("In the kingdom of the blind, sight is a crime and mentioning what you see is a gaffe.")
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To: muawiyah

I’ve met Londo at a few Dragoncon years back and he was a great guy. We had gotten married a few weeks before going to a DC on year.

During our routine walk of fame, we went to Londo’s table and we were making small talk with other people in line. Peter J. overheard us and when we got to him, he congratulated us and said all kinds of words of congratulations and insisted on a free autograph with a very long kind paragraph. We have it framed in the master bedroom.

Max Eilerson from Crusade was beside him and also took a couple minutes congratulating us. Always like Max on Crusade, he was my favorite.

The next few DCs, we would swing by Peter’s table and he always remembered us as the “married kids”.

We were able to see G’Kar at one Con and it was most enjoyable to listen to him at panels. It was hard to tell if he and Peter were playing a game or actually didn’t like each other very much. Andreas struck me as a genuine person who liked acting for acting and money didn’t matter that much based on some of his experiences.

My first DC visit occurred when Claudia Christian was there and the line was murder. She ought to have gotten a medal for the heat, noise, and writing cramps. When we got up to her, she took a break for a minute for water and to breathe. Nobody could blame her. She was only gone a minute or two it seemed. She came back and was very apologetic. We talked for a min and got an autograph. I got my photo with her and just before my wife snpped the photo, she jumped up and gave me a hug.

I was surprised in a very good way. I’m glad it was film and buried in an album. I looked silly and was rather overweight too.


38 posted on 09/29/2012 3:40:17 PM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: Tax-chick
The sub-storyline that developed between G’Kar and Londo kept me watching all the way to the end. The interplay between two old enemies as they became two old friends was an important part of the story arc.

Regards,
GtG

PS Put me down for Sinclair over Sheridan as well.

39 posted on 09/29/2012 3:41:01 PM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

I had no idea JMS wrote for that show. I remember a couple of episodes with the Boogeyman being pretty creepy. There was another one where the Ghostbusters fought a ghost/demon/whatever called What. That one had some pretty crazy, dark imagery that stuck with me.


40 posted on 09/29/2012 3:43:08 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray

I remember Londo when he was Sid, the confidential informant, on “Hill Street Blues.” Color me surprised when he turned up as Dracula Bonaparte, wanna-be emperor of Alien Rome. Good at it, too ;-). Very cool cultural stuff in B5. We’ll have to watch a favorite episode this evening and drank some wine for Sinclair.


41 posted on 09/29/2012 3:44:51 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("In the kingdom of the blind, sight is a crime and mentioning what you see is a gaffe.")
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To: EveningStar

Dang! Another B5 cast member gone.


42 posted on 09/29/2012 3:45:17 PM PDT by Lee N. Field (Never argue eschatology with a crazy person.)
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To: muawiyah

I think we’re looking at it from different angles.

I thought the acting was bad but it was actually the actors that said it.

But, I don’t think they were giving themselves credit for the handicap they were working with.

The story arc for B5 was terrific: one of the best ever brought to TV. But their special effects budget was crap.

So when the actors were doing a scene, they had to know that no matter how well they did, the set and effects production was going to make them look goofy and amateur. And more often than not, knowing that will drain an actors power and performance.

So in that context, yes, the acting quality was fine. Actually, it was pretty good. But compared to shows with hardcore performances all around, the acting was pretty bad.


43 posted on 09/29/2012 4:02:26 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny ("Allah" isn't a god. It's a mental disorder.)
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To: wally_bert

Not really sure, to be honest. If he is, he must be in the Ayn Rand “guiding moral force to the universe” atheist camp. In other words, not a real atheist.


44 posted on 09/29/2012 4:18:28 PM PDT by arderkrag (An Unreconstructed Georgian, Forever in Rebellion.)
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To: arderkrag

That could explain his view and in some way his even-handed treatment of religion. Later Star Trek in my opinion was never very kind to religion.


45 posted on 09/29/2012 4:30:00 PM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: wally_bert

G’Kar and Londo started off good and truly became great. I think they both know the opportunity they had with those characters.


46 posted on 09/29/2012 4:34:53 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: wally_bert
Went for a walk around the Mall in DC one day with a friend of mine ~ i was on a 10 day break from the military down at Fort Benning, and had been working there, so I went up to visit witht he old gang.

We ran into Thurgood Marshall ~ he also regularly walked around the Mall.

That's less common these days ~ too many people would be jumping on them ~ but you can always find a major politician somewhere in downtown DC when Congress is in session ~ kind of like a cheap scificon.

47 posted on 09/29/2012 4:41:30 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: EveningStar
I got to meet Michael O'Hare once at Lunacon in 1997, where he was the Media Guest of Honor. (Note: Lunacon doesn't usually have "Media" GoH's -- usually, it's writer, artist and fan along with the occasional special guest). I got him to autograph a Babylon 5 paperback for my brother, who couldn't make it that year, and I conspired to save the poor fellow's life, though he never knew.

Yes, there's a story here:

I, along with two friends, were standing outside the ballroom in the hotel where "Meet the Pros" was going on. None of us had ever actually gone to meet the pros before and we didn't know if we could just walk right in and walk up to the man. Yes, we were just three fanboys gawking in the hall.

Then, someone I won't name except to say that he was the "least" among us, among our contingent of friends sharing rooms at the con, breezes right past us, walks across the room, and plops himself down into the seat next to O'Hare.

Well, if *he* could walk in, *we* could, too. So we did. That's when I found out that our friend was sitting there, chatting away, with a little Sony TV/video player in hand, bothering the hell out of O'Hare, who was too polite to tell him to beat it. And yet when he handed me back my book and my pen, he had a vacant stare in his eyes that pled, "For the love of God, kill me now! Please!"

(There are details that I save for in person tellings because you have to see how animated I get. Let's just say...) when the three of us left the ballroom, we said that we had to get (youknowwho) away from him. "But how? We don't want him with us!" Sadly, a very valid point.

We waited two minutes, ran back in, out of breath, and told him, "Quick! Ronnie needs you downstairs at registration!" And the four of us ran from the ballroom and down the stairs. My two friends doubled back on the other side of the staircase, while I led him to Ronnie and then ducked out the side door and made my escape.

And O'Hare never knew how we saved him.

48 posted on 09/29/2012 5:39:07 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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To: KevinDavis

Sci-fi list ping?


49 posted on 09/29/2012 5:40:57 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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To: EveningStar

OHHH ES I read Deadline Hollyweird

RIP Valen aka Commander Jeff Sinclair

Garbaradi be heartbroken

OH YEAH Garbarari that his main homey


50 posted on 09/29/2012 6:39:29 PM PDT by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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