Posted on 10/31/2012 1:16:41 AM PDT by neverdem
Edited on 10/31/2012 3:13:38 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
While the pull-up has been used by everyone from middle-school gym teachers to Marine drill instructors to measure fitness, the fact is that many fit people, particularly women, can't do even one. To perform a pull-up, you place your hands on a raised bar using an overhand grip, arms fully extended and feet off the floor. (The same exercise, performed with an underhand grip, is often called a chin-up.) Using the muscles in your arms and back, you pull yourself up until your chin passes the bar. Then the body is lowered until the arms are straight, and the exercise is repeated. The Marines say a male recruit should be able to do at least 3 pull-ups or chin-ups, but women are not required to do them. In school, 14-year-old boys can earn the highest...
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I could do pull ups when I was a 14 year old girl, many moons ago, but chin ups were easier.
Political Correctness force people to fear confirming these biological facts and thus enabling the deaths of untold numbers (or should I say “unreported?”) from emergency situations that demand upper body strength to address—situations firemen, policemen and male soldiers are best equipped to address.
If you cannot do at least several pull-ups you are too handicapped to rescue heavy bodies from fires, subdue and arrest aggressive criminals or survive hand to hand combat (there are,of course,very very very few exceptions).
Sexual political correctness is a benighted biological premise that makes people rise to a fantasy potential with deadly results.
LOL!!! Well!!
Guys can’t hold a baby on their hips, so THERE!
BUMP
Funny story....
Some background....My middle daughter was a Level 10 gymnast when she was 12 and colleges were watching her then for their NCAA programs....She was going “Elite” which is Olympic level when she turned 15 but we decided against it....
Fast forward to when she was 16, she is drop dead gourgeous, the kind of girl guys just stop whatever they’re doing and stare at....
At the same time, my oldest daughter is a Zoomie at the Air Force Academy and we fly out to visit her as a family. She takes us on a tour of the Academy grounds and buildings when we stop by the gym. As we look around, we notice one of the areas has a series of chin-up bars with were occupied by about 20 guys working out.
All of them stopped for a moment when they saw my middle daughter and stared, then they started grunting out mutliple pullups as too “impress”
My older daughter (the Zoomie) immediately noticed this and since she knew several of them called out a following challenge; “ I bet my little sister can beat all of you in pull-ups” Needless to say they took the challenge and the best of them banged out 22 pull-ups. They felt secure in their masculinity and ability.
My middle daughter then jumped up and grabbed the bar. She quickly did 15 chin-ups with perfect form then pretended to struggle to reach 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, then she hung there for a second to tease them and quickly went to 21, 22, 23....until she hit 40. At that point she put her legs in a full pike position and continued to 50 when she quit. She appeared to be able to do many more had she wanted to...
I’ve never seen such a collective group of dejected boys.....LOL
My oldest daughter was a marathon runner. She used to out run the jocks for the fun of it
:)
Read my post #8...LOL
My sister is 50 years old and still runs an annual ~170 mile super-marathon that takes multiple days to complete.
It’s amazing what people can do. Though she still can’t do a pull-up: she doesn’t have the upper body strength.
50 pull-ups? That is incredible. I can do about 15 when I’m in tip top shape.
First off, I need sleep. I read Zoomie as Zombie. :)
Secondly....what a GIRL you’ve raised!!! I LOVE it!!!!
On a side note, when I was training lifeguards for the Red Cross in college one of the trials was to tread water for 5 minutes while holding a 10 pound rubber coated brick. I would LOVE doing the demo- treading water, talking away about how to best support the brick close to your body, holding it with both hands, and explaining the pros and cons of each different kick. Then I would casually place the brick back on the deck and send the first three trainees in.
I'd give them a count down and start the stopwatch. At "go!" the muscular guys would grab the brick off the pool deck and sink straight to the bottom! While many of the curvier girls would bob right along and never get their bangs wet. Even the littlest girls still had more buoyancy in their thighs, butt and breasts than an average guy. And it definitely gave us an edge in that one test! :p
I spent most of those days retrieving bricks off of the bottom of the pool. But it was good fun, and almost everyone we taught was smart enough to let the brick go if they got into trouble.
Guys can’t hold a baby on their hips, so THERE!”
Not only can we hold a baby on our hips, we can do it while also stirring a pot of food cooking on the stove, mentally putting together a grocery list, talking on the phone and corralling a toddler who is creating mayhem.
Yeah!
And don’t forget that said toddler is hanging ON to your pants legs all the while...AND then, let’s not EVEN go into the dog prancing around the room!
:)
(Ms Weber owns every pull-up record on the books in the women's categories, up until you get into the 6-hours (or more) categories.)
Maybe this random former gymnast unknowingly set a world record without any training or trying... or maybe a proud dad is boasting a bit much.
They fail to grasp the overwhelming empirically proved reality that nature herself has long since determined the actual worth of each sex...
...during deer hunting season there are but a few “doe” days while every day is “buck” day.
like this girl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtqW2SYYxP0&feature=youtube_gdata_player
First...she wasn’t timed...second, she competed at international level (no training?,random gymnast?). She was competeing at the time...Her coaches were two retired Olympian gymnasts....
I owned a gymnastics facility and we have produced several “Elite” gymnasts...
Thier warm-ups each day would have been termed “record breaking” by your definition.....
You know nothing, yet you call BS.....
The fact is, you are just a “jerk”
Interesting how a simple article has turned into a battle of the sexes with women coming up with all kinds of examples to compensate.
That’s a major portion of gymnast’s routine...they use their arms to lift their body weight repetitively.....Practice 6 bdays a week and 4 hours per day, every day of the year for (except Christmas day and Thanksgiving day) over 10 years when she was 16.
My daughter was a specialist on uneven Bar....
When she competed, her body fat was just about nil.....
Bfl
“My oldest daughter was a marathon runner. She used to out run the jocks for the fun of it”
Yes, I knew a girl like that. I went backpacking with her once and with a ten pound pack she could not keep up with men carrying eighty pounds.
Second, nevergore's daughter was a level-10 gymnast. It's just where the elite gymnasts are before they entered national or national competitions and become the 'real elites'. I google level-10 gymnastic skills, and it doesn't seem what nevergore said to be exaggerated.
Volleyball - best spectator sport ever invented.
I noticed the same thing when I was a water safety instructor back in the early 60s but it started with the brick on the bottom of the pool at the deep end. Women had few problems, men struggled.
Thanks! In fact, she was ready to petition for “elite” status but we decided against it. There are a lot of ‘technical’ reasons why not to...
My kids are losers, but I don’t care - they’re still smart.
You posted “On a side note, when I was training lifeguards for the Red Cross in college one of the trials was to tread water for 5 minutes while holding a 10 pound rubber coated brick. I would LOVE doing the demo- treading water, talking away about how to best support the brick close to your body, holding it with both hands, and explaining the pros and cons of each different kick. Then I would casually place the brick back on the deck and send the first three trainees in. I’d give them a count down and start the stopwatch. At “go!” the muscular guys would grab the brick off the pool deck and sink straight to the bottom! While many of the curvier girls would bob right along and never get their bangs wet. Even the littlest girls still had more buoyancy in their thighs, butt and breasts than an average guy. And it definitely gave us an edge in that one test! :p
I spent most of those days retrieving bricks off of the bottom of the pool. But it was good fun, and almost everyone we taught was smart enough to let the brick go if they got into trouble.”
Why? Women have a significant higher percentage of FAT body composition. Fat is buoyant. Muscle is dense. Your females floated because they were buoyant corks.
You’re welcome. Congratulation for being a great parent to your great and lovely daughters!
I saw girl once who did 47 pullups. She could actually do more but she was embarrassing us guys and thought better of it.
I only made it to 38 and thought I was hot stuff as I bested the other guys.
Here and there there are special police or firefighter or military tasks that women are more suited for (e.g., certain undercover or small-space tasks), but for the vast bulk of assignments you are absolutely correct.
On the other hand, how many fat, middle-aged policemen do we see who couldn’t or wouldn’t run down a criminal for anything?
Most of our jobs that require such physical strength should of course be held by men. But rather than give them early retirement in the forties or fifties, when their physical powers fade, if they haven’t been promoted up into management they should be given extensive retraining for second careers.
Chin ups I could do in my more vital youth, a fair number of them.
I could never handle much weight in a bench prtess, either.
I could do as much as any of the other lads could (weight-wise and stamina-wise) regarding any normal lifting requirement. I hit for average with relatively few home runs. Also, lack of great speed pushed me more toward the middle of the offensive line in football, although I could pass a football (and throw a baseball) with the same or better end result than most of the other lads.
I believe there was something about the way my arm and back muscles grew that made these "over hand" efforts more difficult.
For that matter, I found the lasses with the same percent of body fat as the really lean lads to be less attractive than the lasses populationg the more normal ranges. My wife belonged in the more "normal" subset, although she was quite athletic. Such is life.
Pull ups are not needed to be in the kitchen cooking.
Yea, it’s sarcasm. Lighten up.
They did add a lot of buoyancy to the chest area.
Former level 10 here.
Your post brought back great memories of whooping the boys fannies in gym classes.
Ahhhh....those were the days.
Rope climbing races were always fun too. LOL.
Nope, they sure can't.
I ref volleyball. Without a doubt, the best looking women athletes.
She was hot as hell too.
We dated for a few months. Fun, fun, fun and soft like a woman should be.
Chicken wire.
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