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UFO enthusiasts admit the truth may not be out there after all
uktelegraph ^ | 8:50AM GMT 04 Nov 2012 | Jasper Copping

Posted on 11/10/2012 4:54:09 PM PST by BenLurkin

For decades, they have been scanning the skies for signs of alien activity.

But having failed to establish any evidence for the existence of extraterrestrial life, Britain’s UFO watchers are reaching the conclusion that the truth might not be out there after all.

Enthusiasts admit that a continued failure to provide proof and a decline in the number of “flying saucer” sightings suggests that aliens do not exist after all and could mean the end of “Ufology” – the study of UFOs – within the next decade.

Dozens of groups interested in the flying saucers and other unidentified craft have already closed because of lack of interest and next week one of the country’s foremost organisations involved in UFO research is holding a conference to discuss whether the subject has any future.

Dave Wood, chairman of the Association for the Scientific Study of Anomalous Phenomena (Assap), said the meeting had been called to address the crisis in the subject and see if UFOs were a thing of the past.

“I think that any UFO researcher would tell you that 98 per cent of sightings that happen are very easily explainable. One of the conclusions to draw from that is that perhaps there isn’t anything there. The days of compelling eyewitness sightings seem to be over.”

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


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1 posted on 11/10/2012 4:54:11 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

My feelings are this, I do believe in God and I do feel he created other planets and intelligent life, but I’m not all that into little green men, though.


2 posted on 11/10/2012 4:56:29 PM PST by Morpheus2009
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To: BenLurkin
There are probably millions of other civilizations out there in the vastness of the universe, but we each move in our own bubble of space time and blip into and out of existence with very little hope of interaction.

The distances of space and time are too vast to overcome.

3 posted on 11/10/2012 4:59:55 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: BenLurkin

Our plan worked!


4 posted on 11/10/2012 5:00:47 PM PST by freedumb2003 (We can’t just leave it (food choice) up to the parents. -- moochele obozo 2/12/2012 (cnsnews))
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To: BenLurkin
The days of compelling eyewitness sightings seem to be over.

And yet these days nearly everyone is walking around with a camera.

5 posted on 11/10/2012 5:01:17 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: BenLurkin

Ufology has become the religion of the kookie left. I use to follow ufo stories and the people who researched it for over thirty years and I’ve found most of researchers are “secular humanists” and extremely liberal. The stuff they show on the History Channel is insane.


6 posted on 11/10/2012 5:01:17 PM PST by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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To: Morpheus2009

I agree that others are out there but God decided to make all of us so far away that we can’t screw around with each other, just ourselves!


7 posted on 11/10/2012 5:04:30 PM PST by Empireoftheatom48 (God help the Republic)
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To: BenLurkin
I guess it never occurred to these people that Earthlings just may be the most advanced civilization in the Universe.

Probably never know for sure, but its fun looking....

8 posted on 11/10/2012 5:07:02 PM PST by B.O. Plenty (Give war a chance.....)
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To: BenLurkin

There’d BETTER be SOME intelligent life in the universe, somewhere.....

(aside from on FR, of course!)


9 posted on 11/10/2012 5:08:26 PM PST by faithhopecharity
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To: B.O. Plenty

“Probably never know for sure, but its fun looking.... “

SETI gives motivation for some to become even more advanced even though they probably won’t find anything.


10 posted on 11/10/2012 5:08:58 PM PST by ari-freedom
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To: dragonblustar
Ufology has become the religion of the kookie left. I use to follow ufo stories and the people who researched it for over thirty years and I’ve found most of researchers are “secular humanists” and extremely liberal. The stuff they show on the History Channel is insane.

I find a pattern in these abduction/contact stories that the aliens seem to come here to warn us about nuclear war, environmental degredation, or some such catastrophy. All of these ills they warn about are liberal pet causes, and if they were true, we don't need someone flying across the galaxy to get here and tell us about it because we already know about it. They are just projections of the "abductee's" state of mind.

If aliens want to warn us that some quantum space thread is going to pass through Earth and collapse us into a black hole, then I'm ok with them giving a warning and providing instructions to deal with it. Nuclear war? We got it, it is bad. Thanks. Could have saved the trip though.

11 posted on 11/10/2012 5:09:55 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: BenLurkin

Just because they haven’t dropped by, doesn’t mean they don’t exist.


12 posted on 11/10/2012 5:13:03 PM PST by Andrei Bulba (No Obama, no way!)
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13 posted on 11/10/2012 5:13:32 PM PST by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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14 posted on 11/10/2012 5:16:39 PM PST by reagan_fanatic (You are not now, and will never be my President, Mr. Obama.)
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To: dragonblustar

Not looking up my facts now. Just gonna go from memory.
There was an author who wrote a story about visitors from another world traveling our planet in a hot air balloon .
This was around the time either the hot air balloon was just invented or just used in America .

There were people who swore that they saw visitors from another world in a hot air balloon .

So maybe they really did come here in a hot air balloon and saw that we were primitive and decided to move onto another planet.


15 posted on 11/10/2012 5:26:06 PM PST by Morris70
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To: BenLurkin

I like what Stephen Hawkings said that maybe it’s not a good idea to reach out to other worlds. If we encounter another alien civ it will probably be far more advance then ours and whenever that happened on earth it didn’t end well for the civ that was behind.


16 posted on 11/10/2012 5:27:29 PM PST by AU72
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To: Vince Ferrer

Aliens should have warned us about communism and socialism!


17 posted on 11/10/2012 5:31:43 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: BenLurkin

Give me a few hours with photoshop and I’ll get you all the evidence you need.


18 posted on 11/10/2012 5:32:00 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Morpheus2009

“My feelings are this, I do believe in God and I do feel he created other planets and intelligent life, but I’m not all that into little green men, though.”


I agree. And I believe God placed them an unreachable distance apart for a reason.


19 posted on 11/10/2012 5:32:16 PM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: BenLurkin
Right now we need a little distraction...How about a rumor that the famous tabloid space alien is warning America that Obama is a dangerous alien form Betelgeuse.

Zaphod Beeblebrox cannot be reached for comment.

If a UFO did land and destroyed the UN, would it be a bad thing?

I have a theory that they already know us through old TV broadcasts and figure earthlings are insane and declared the planet off limits.


20 posted on 11/10/2012 5:35:27 PM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: BenLurkin

There is just too much eyewitness testimony from people like fighter pilots and other military types to say that there is nothing going on. I saw a show the other night called “out of the blue” that had some amazing footage that I had never seen before as well as declassified documents that were pretty impressive. Here is a thought. Maybe they are not from other planets but from our own future.


21 posted on 11/10/2012 5:38:07 PM PST by albionin
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To: freedumb2003
Our plan worked!

Yes, it did.

At this point we could probably be quite open about our existence, and no one would even believe us. :-)

22 posted on 11/10/2012 5:41:37 PM PST by Jeff Winston
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To: Vince Ferrer
I find a pattern in these abduction/contact stories that the aliens seem to come here to warn us about nuclear war, environmental degredation, or some such catastrophy.

I agree. Budd Hopkins, who wrote the book, "Intruders" fills some of this other books with that eco garbage, global warming, etc. In one of his books he lifted a line from the movie,"The Seventh Seal". I knew then I need to stop readying.

23 posted on 11/10/2012 5:41:37 PM PST by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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To: reagan_fanatic

14 posts til that guy shows up....we’re getting slow here on FR :)


24 posted on 11/10/2012 5:46:49 PM PST by HonkyTonkMan
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To: BenLurkin

As a Christian I have often wondered if we were not alone in the universe:

How did the memo get out (to other inhabited planets) that Jesus chose our planet to die on to save the universe? Did he just die here to save only humans? Did he go to each inhabited planet and die yet again? Did he die simultaneously on each inhabited planet? Is the rest of the universe sin free and the inhabitants of earth the only ones needing the saving grace of Jesus on the Cross?

Or are we truly alone in God’s universe as multitudes of Christians believe.

I realize that this is not necessarily a religious thread but after years on FR I have learned to post my questions were and when the best theme is being disused relating to my questions.


25 posted on 11/10/2012 5:49:46 PM PST by doc1019
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To: ari-freedom

“SETI gives motivation for some to become even more advanced even though they probably won’t find anything.”
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I remember the seed for SETI started back in the late 50s.
I was a fourteen year old ham operator reading the theory that high power VHF TV signals, originating in the late 30s, that could pass through the ionosphere would have had 11 years to reach the nearest star system, and 11 years for a potential reply signal.
We are, of course, still looking for a signal from ET, but if it ever comes, it will be many years, or centuries old.


26 posted on 11/10/2012 5:51:19 PM PST by AlexW
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To: Vince Ferrer
It is useful to reflect on the fact that the "UFO" phenomenon is really a post WWII phenomenon. There have always been "signs in the sky" but rarely attributed to visitors from outer space.

Like crop circles, flying saucers will die a death of banality as the "sightings" go nowhere and make no difference to anyone's daily life.

If "they" are out there they wil not rely on zooming around the upper atmosphere and bending wheat fields to let us know.

27 posted on 11/10/2012 5:55:36 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: AlexW

I’ve often wondered how far out our tv and radio signals would intelligible. Maybe someone who knows could chime in. Iv’e also wondered if they ever do pick up a signal will we ever find out about it or are there standing orders to report it to the government first.


28 posted on 11/10/2012 5:57:04 PM PST by albionin
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To: BenLurkin
Gad
29 posted on 11/10/2012 6:00:27 PM PST by mirkwood (let it burn)
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To: albionin
Bomber pilots in WW II returning from long range missions in the darkness experienced what they called "gremlins," visions of odd characters sitting on their wing tips, etc. Generally chalked up to sensory deprivation, and most likely rightfully so. Just because someone is a pilot doesn't mean his eyewitness account is automatically veridical.
30 posted on 11/10/2012 6:03:50 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: reagan_fanatic

31 posted on 11/10/2012 6:05:21 PM PST by mirkwood (let it burn)
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To: dragonblustar
Good idea. Bud Hopkins is a snake oil salesman who has made a lot of easy money off the UFO schtick.
32 posted on 11/10/2012 6:06:04 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: BenLurkin

Do tell.


33 posted on 11/10/2012 6:10:52 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth
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To: mirkwood
That's not a UFO.

It's a heavenly body.

34 posted on 11/10/2012 6:14:12 PM PST by Bratch
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To: hinckley buzzard
Bomber pilots in WW II returning from long range missions in the darkness experienced what they called "gremlins," visions of odd characters sitting on their wing tips, etc.


35 posted on 11/10/2012 6:18:56 PM PST by Bratch
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To: albionin

I am a professional engineer 43 years old. When I was 18 I saw an object that I could clearly see at noon clear skies. It did things no aircraft I am aware of could do. Would have to have gravity control or something else. I was getting off work from plant maintenance job. If you saw it you would be mystified I assure you. There is something to these sightings at least in my case.


36 posted on 11/10/2012 6:19:12 PM PST by smaug6 (We can't afford to be innocent!! Stand up and face the enemy.)
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To: Bratch

37 posted on 11/10/2012 6:20:27 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: dead

Wrongidy wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong....LOL


38 posted on 11/10/2012 6:31:11 PM PST by Walkingfeather
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To: BenLurkin

If there aren’t any UFO’s out there, how did Obama get here?


39 posted on 11/10/2012 6:31:23 PM PST by haroldeveryman
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To: dead

RUN JIM, IT'S A TRAP

40 posted on 11/10/2012 6:38:50 PM PST by MaxMax
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To: albionin

“I’ve often wondered how far out our tv and radio signals would intelligible.”
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It would not likely be intelligible from any distance.
We would be looking only for the signal to have originated from an intelligent source.
The signals may well travel far beyond light-years.
We now look for signals that may be 30 to 100 light-years away.
I have no idea what the decay rate would be in space.
There are just so many factors that can not be accounted for, such as obstructions that the wave might encounter.


41 posted on 11/10/2012 6:44:23 PM PST by AlexW
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To: Morpheus2009

The Bible makes clear God created creatures of a spiritual deminision, angels. They can cross deminisions into ours. Genesis refers to fallen angels messing around, physically, in our deminision. I think it claims the angels messed in breeding with humans and this genetic messing was mostly cleaned up in the flood. Angels are still interacting with us on a spiritual level. The fallen angels might be the aliens that interact with (and terrible abuse) human beings if those stories are true.

As far as I know, the Bible does not say He created physical beings on other planets. Do you know differently?


42 posted on 11/10/2012 6:48:27 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: albionin
Maybe they are not from other planets but from our own future.

Murray Trevor, Time-Traveling Tourist?

43 posted on 11/10/2012 7:19:03 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: B.O. Plenty

“I guess it never occurred to these people that Earthlings just may be the most advanced civilization in the Universe.”

Gee, that’s depressing.

Especially after last Tuesday!


44 posted on 11/10/2012 7:21:29 PM PST by Road Glide
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To: reagan_fanatic

That guy looks like he picked the wrong time to give up sniffing glue.


45 posted on 11/10/2012 7:28:35 PM PST by Overtaxed
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To: darkwing104

“I have a theory that they already know us through old TV broadcasts and figure earthlings are insane and declared the planet off limits.”

That explains why all those very posh, expensive vacation homes and estates are suddenly up for sale ...


46 posted on 11/11/2012 2:30:20 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: ALASKA; ActionNewsBill; A knight without armor; albertp; aragorn; areafiftyone; aruanan; ...

Pinging the list, FYI.


47 posted on 11/11/2012 2:41:50 AM PST by Las Vegas Dave
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To: ALASKA; ActionNewsBill; A knight without armor; albertp; aragorn; areafiftyone; aruanan; ...

Pinging the list, FYI.


48 posted on 11/11/2012 2:42:36 AM PST by Las Vegas Dave
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To: B.O. Plenty
I guess it never occurred to these people that Earthlings just may be the most advanced civilization in the Universe.

...or the least advanced, and like an island of monkeys, the wiser civilizations decided to study us from a safe distance.

That's what I would do.

This planet is bloody dangerous!

I know that if I were an advanced alien and I discovered a planet full of primitive, warlike, violent naked apes with a primitive, emerging technological society, I would not be in any hurry to share technology or much of anything with them.

I would study them from a distance, take what I wanted and if I felt magnanimous, maybe guide their civilization... Or just sit back at a safe distance and keep an eye on them.

49 posted on 11/11/2012 3:15:53 AM PST by Bon mots (Abu Ghraib: 47 Times on the front page of the NY Times | Benghazi: 2 Times)
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To: hinckley buzzard

It did increase after WW2, see project sign etc., the 1940s were the beginning of everything relating to the end times, wars and rumors of war as Jesus said, the dead sea scrolls, Israel restored, computers, atomic bombs, traveling to and fro with knowledge increasing etc., “but the end is not yet” see Matthew 24:6

I believe an omnipotent and creative God could easily (and very likely did) fill up the universe with his creations, but what ever may be out there is not superior to us, we’re made in his image

However, I believe what we’ve been experiencing as ufo sightings throughout history is not physical but instead spiritual in nature and have to do with angelic and demonic warfare taking place and spilling over into the physical world and will likely increase as this age gets closer and closer to the end,

Also I suspect as we approach the 70 year mark from events in that time, that it may be prophetically significant,


50 posted on 11/11/2012 4:27:08 AM PST by captmar-vell
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