Posted on 11/13/2012 11:17:38 AM PST by Kartographer
>>FRiend, the globalists will program your children and grandchildren so well that they will believe the oligarchy has made them more secure,<<
*sigh* my hopes overshot my analysis. You are correct: just look at the EU and their “I deserve it” mentality.
How sad it will be when China is the worldwide bastion of capitalism.
A sinking tide strands all boats.
I hate to be selfish but thank God I don’t have kids or grandkids — I couldn’t look them in the face knowing the hell that will be their lives under obammunism.
“Collect and save old telephone books to substitute for TP after the good stuff is used up.”
A family relative was helping me get rid of some stuff out of my house, and he came across stacks of thick old phone books stored under a sink. He said I could get rid of those. I said no, that is toilet paper. He stores nothing and will surey die except for me if a hurricane has a direct hit where he lives, but he looked at me like I was nuts.
When he is here, he knows there are large cans of food under that bed, but hasn’t shown enough interest to ask what they are. Those cans are long term food good for 20-25 years. A non-prepper just doesn’t get it. I expect if this was his house, he would throw away those cans, thinking whatever is in them must be bad by now. They are actually in their first year of life.
Yes, I save toilet paper large phone books.
>>A small refillable plastic spray bottle full of water can, with practice, be used as a bidet, cutting down on the amount of toilet paper needed.<<
Wow — now THAT is planning “a head!”
I really, really like natural gas ranges, and electric (non-convection) ovens. Along with all the other nice tools. I like wood fired ovens for breads.
I can do the hard way... but it sucks to do it right.
I've got wheat and rye in the yard that I put out every year and let go to seed, so I'd rather not do the acorn bread (can.. but it sucks).
/johnny
Johnny, if I weren't already married with children, I'd think I'd found my soul mate. LOL.
One thing no one can ever steal or confiscate from us is our knowledge. The more we can live with..nothing..the more prepared for the worst we'll be.
Prepare for the worst while hoping for the best.
PS....yeah. I'm a girl (just so you don't think.....you know....)
One of our pastues had old fence and the goats would step on it and it would go down. To keep them in and electric fence about 6 inches from the old fence does the trick...One wire 6 inches off the ground the wire above it about 12 inche higher and another top one 6 inches above that...the lowest one gets their nose as they graze to close to the old fence. if they are not grazing but trying to get to the old fence the second wire gets them and just for an extra shock the top one....they quite grazing about 1 foot from the wire after one shock....but the funniest thing I saw was one of our roosters wander into the fence, he yelled and jumped up and hit the other wire, fell down and got the bottom wire again squaking like crazy, finally fell out of the wires and found the gate to the barn....But you have to know how to properly wire and be sure to ground it it uses alternat current so you won’t roast them, but get at least 2 goats, being a flock animal one goat will always be afraid....of corse depending the breed/size of the goat you might put your wires differently....we had Angoras and they are not a big goat....females 60-75 pounds and the males about double that but they aren’t a tall goat...
I've lived with this all of my life and I don't know what you mean, both are part of the same, the differences would not be noticeable until getting into the serious survivalist lifestyle.
Many moons ago (aka ‘decades’), when I was a young pony-crazed little girl, my dad bought me a pony ... she had a 13 month old filly with her, still nursing. We only had one fenced pasture, so he ran an electric fence down the middle so we could separate the two. I got ‘bitten’ by that darn fence a couple of times .... hurts like the dickens! It did the trick though, in keeping the ponies apart until we could get the mare dried up. Later, we electric-fenced another part of the ‘yard’ so the horses could graze (had 5 by then). Dad was driving down the road after a snow/ice storm and just happened to notice a herd of horses, galloping across the neighbor’s pond dam, about a mile from our place. Yup, it was OUR herd .... the fence had shorted out (ice on the wires) & those rascals always knew if the fence is ‘live’ or not.
Not quite sure I’m ready for goats yet, but I’m thinking about it. :-)
“I have yet to see anyone mention a ‘blackout room or rooms’ for your house.”
I bought cheap black out accordian type black paper “blinds” to quickly hang in windows. There is sticky on there to fold over and seal and put a pressure curtain rod (cheap) through it and hang it up in window. No light gets through those black paper blinds. There are different widths and I got them on Amazon. They are in their boxes taking up practically no space at all right now.
Once up, they can be folded up, accordian style, for during the day and there is a clip to put on them to keep them up. At night, take out the clip and they fall to their full length and black out any light going to the outside.
There, stopped the light from going outside.
If I had known, I would have had the house built to better with stand quakes. We live in an all brick home, and I am not sure where the best place would be under that scenario.
I also always thought that a basement would be adequate protection for a tornado. Joplin's Ef5 was an eye opener. I'd like to prep a basement corner at least for best chance of surviving and earthquake or monster tornado.
We have made some progress with our preparations. In addition to food stocks etc. we have planted or have plants growing wild such as a dwarf apple/fruit orchard, berries, walnut trees, persimmons, rosa rugosa, chicory, herbs, etc.
I have canned, dehydrated, and frozen homegrown food(added bonus is no pesticide residue and better taste). This is not just for disaster preparations, but also financial considerations due to the rising prices. So far we have not had to increase our monthly food budget, even though we have been buying extra shelf stable foods each week.
We recently survived 4 days without electricity during a heat wave. My dad was on Oxygen 24/7 and not able to withstand heat. We were able to use our back up plans to keep our refrigerators, freezer, and sufficient air conditioning for all of us to be comfortable.
Other people were flooding into the hospitals and doctor's offices and stuff just because they needed oxygen.
In addition to your prep hand book, what would be the number one book to purchase for disaster preparation and the best book for preparing for a potential financial collapse?
Do you guys have any links handy for that? We have lots of clay soil where I live.
Well, they stayed out of jail, didn’t do drugs, nobody’s pregnant, one finished her masters, one’s graduating and getting married this June, and the youngest is bound and determined to get her PhD (in science) before her older sister (in science also). (Gotta beat her at something, ya know).
They all voted this election.
I’m speechless at the rest.....
But, thanks.... :)
>>I’ve lived with this all of my life and I don’t know what you mean, both are part of the same, the differences would not be noticeable until getting into the serious survivalist lifestyle.<<
Emergency Prep: Water, matches, tools, how-to books, camping gear, canned goods, flashlights, weapons and ammo, common sense.
WTSHTF Prep: See the 100+ items in the early part of this thread, including the renowned chickens and goats, not counting bunkers.
It is all about ROI. People with lesser means have to ask the question: “buy a car or prep for an almost 0% TSHTF scenario?”
Emergency Prep costs a few bucks but is not taxing if done over time and certainly not a WOL (Way of Life).
When Prep consumes more than 5% of your life then it goes from smart planning to just plain nutso.
Unless you live in the outback anyway and that is just how you live. But urban and suburban chicken and goat farms are not really tolerated.
DO NOT EAT WOOD ASH OR ANY ASH FROM A FIRE.
IT IS RADIOACTIVE!!!
PhDs in science! Jeeze!
Thanksgiving should be like an episode of “Big Bang Theory” :)
Stay proud, Mom :) And I mean that in the best of all possible modes. :)
I also had opportunity to be slave labor help with a mud brick project.
I'm blessed on the clay and sand. I have 18" of topsoil, about 14" of mostly pure fine sand under the topsoil, and beneath that is a thick layer of clay that works great for my project.
I wound up just digging a hole and playing with it until I got sun-dried bricks that would work. I'm using about 20% clay and 80% sand, no straw filler.
To rainproof it, I'm adding about 2% cement powder to the outside slip.
It's working for me, so far, and I've done test burns on a smaller 'oven' to verify that it's not going to fall apart when I get to 500F or so.
/johnny
/johnny
thanks
I bought some black out blinds for our bedroom from a place online called Select Blinds. Once I saw how well they worked, I pondered buying more for other rooms - just in case. I used the same type of blind all through the house, only light-filtering in the non-bedroom rooms. They could easily be swapped out with black out shades if I bought them in the same size for each window.
The nice cordless honey-comb blinds are pricey but I bought them in sets during all the buy-3-get-1-free sales (usually on holiday weekends).
Every day is like an episode of Big Bang Theory around our place when they’re home. BBT is reality TV in our house.
You can’t imagine......
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