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http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2012/11/15/why-the-gop-will-not-do-anything-about-vote-fraud/ ^ | November 15, 2012 | Dr. Eowyn

Posted on 11/17/2012 4:46:12 AM PST by Clink

Why the GOP won’t challenge vote fraud Posted on November 15, 2012 by Dr. Eowyn | 78 Comments

Friends and Patriots,

It’s major duct tape time ’cause you’ll need it to keep your head from exploding.

Are you ready for this?

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To: Clink
Already Posted : Why the GOP won't challenge voter fraud
21 posted on 11/17/2012 9:07:24 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: melsec

The blog laments a consent decree the RNC entered in 1982. THe decree doesn’t ban the RNC from doing anything; it allows them to do a lot of things, and requires “pre-clearance” for other things.

In the history of the consent decree,the RNC has NEVER asked for pre-clearance. the court has never denied the RNC clearance, because the RNC has never asked for clearance.

If the RNC isn’t running voter fraud programs, it is because they chose not to, not because of this consent decree.

So the entire point of the blog is wrong.

The blog also wrongly claims that in 4 swing states, Romney was leading in the polls right before the election; in reality, Obama was leading in 3 of the 4 states, and only losing slightly in Florida, which Obama only won slightly.

It also repeats claims about 90% turnout in some Philidelphia precincts, while citing for another claim a news article that explicitly states the 90% figure was fictional.

And it claims that high percentages for Obama were an aberration, where in fact Obama had high percentages in 2008 as well.

It also claims that 400,000 votes is a “small number”, as if it would be easy to commit that much fraud. But it gives no actual evidence for any known fraud, and cherry-picking results can easily change election results; a much smaller number of votes would cost Bush both 2000 and 2008 elections.


22 posted on 11/17/2012 9:15:10 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: presently no screen name

I think Scott Walker and others would appreciate our support, yes. I know I would if I were in their places. How can they know what we feel if we remain silent?


23 posted on 11/17/2012 9:46:59 AM PST by mom of young patriots
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To: patriot08

Seems like We The People need to stop thinking of ourselves as Republicants and remember that we are the true sovereigns of the Republic our founders left us, before the globalist-oligarchy serving democrats abort it completely. Frankly, that requires dealing with the lying fifth column media, too! ... Guillotines from orbit, it’s the only way.


24 posted on 11/17/2012 9:58:58 AM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Baynative

I want Newt Gingrich as Speaker ... I’m convinced he has learned enough since doing the job before, to now really lop off a few democrap heads and rino rearends.


25 posted on 11/17/2012 10:02:31 AM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: mom of young patriots
Support YES and nowhere did I said I don't. So where did you get that from?

This is NOT about support but Email/Phone/Visit EVERY WEEK if not EVERY DAY. This will take weeks of steady pressure to get them to move. Get your friends and neighbors to do the same. Contact the OTHER 4 states to do the same as above. Contact the Governor and the local GOP office with the SAME pressure DAILY PRESSURE!

26 posted on 11/17/2012 10:02:52 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: CharlesWayneCT
where in fact Obama had high percentages in 2008 as well.

So you are saying that there was no fraud in 08 for a UNVETTED Hidden document, no experience presidential candidate?

It also claims that 400,000 votes is a “small number”, as if it would be easy to commit that much fraud. But it gives no actual evidence for any known fraud,

I supposed you missed ONE guy on facebook bragging he voted FIVE times. I guess your head was stuck in the sand then. How nice to come out when all is said and done!

27 posted on 11/17/2012 10:14:00 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Yes hence I said if it is 100% true and if the evidence is really there. Thanks for that info.

Mel


28 posted on 11/17/2012 10:46:05 AM PST by melsec (Once a Jolly Swagman camped by a Billabong....)
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To: presently no screen name

Yes, because nobody ever lies on Facebook.

But I presume people did commit fraud. 5 is somewhat less than 400,000, but let’s not get into that “math” thing. I also presume that there’s at least one person somewhere who voted more than once for a republican.

There is no evidence of specific fraud that was enough to change the race.

What you have is dozens of anecdotes which define a “pattern” which then are claimed to be proof of fraud sufficient to change the outcome. But that’s like pointing to a bunch of old computer parts, and claiming you have a supercomputer.


29 posted on 11/17/2012 11:56:12 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT

I can’t deal with anyone who is deceived as you! This last year was enough.

Bye!


30 posted on 11/17/2012 12:01:07 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: CharlesWayneCT
I agree with your comments on this and the other post about this consent decree. I do know Florida law, and can attest that all of these provisions are part of the existing statutory framework by which we run elections.
Further- if the shoe was on the other foot, I doubt any conservative would approve of Black Panthers at the polls challenging their right to vote. Intimidation runs in both directions.
In Florida, political parties have legal access to voter rolls, and use them constantly. We look up telephone numbers to help our campaigns make those awful robocalls. We set up phone banks, walking lists, and other means of directly contacting voters. So here is the reality:
When we determine a voter has moved, or died, or the address is bogus, or any other FACT casting doubt on their eligibility, we contact the county Supervisor of Elections, who has a process under the statute to contact the voter, and remove them from the rolls. It happens all the time.

At election time, we volunteer to be poll watchers at the precincts- and take action under the law to be sure the volunteer (often elderly) poll workers follow the law. The action does not include confronting voters directly- we contact the Supervisor, who has the statutory responsibility to handle these situations. And we volunteer to monitor vote counts. It makes for some long days. So don't tell me we just lay down and do nothing.

As a party- we can't intimidate them, or threaten them, or otherwise interfere with their right to vote. We can't have armed or uniformed officers at the polls. It is not our job.

Our County Clerks notify the Supervisor when death notices are filed, or someone is convicted of a felony, or judged incompetent, and they are also removed from the rolls under our law.

We just scrubbed 600 or so illegal aliens from the rolls who used Motor Voter to register to vote (illegally) over the protests of the leftists. The ones who actually voted (most didn't) were referred for prosecution.

In short- as a Republican activist for more decades than I care to recall, the idea that we ignore voter fraud is just bogus. Like all criminals, the fraudsters are clever and persistent, but we are vigilent and persistent.

And we work within the law to affect changes needed. Right now, we are pushing for a change in the state statute of limitations for 3rd degree felonies to insure illegal voters can be prosecuted even if we don't discover the crime for 4 or more years.

I doubt the author has been actively involved in either party activities or state/local government, or he wouldn't offer the solutions he does. The answer if your state is problematic is MORE involvement, not less. Work to elect conservatives to all levels of government, work to change your laws to give the officials the authority they need to combat fraud. It's easy to whine that it's hopeless and turn your back. What's hard is making a difference.
Let the flames begin.
GG

31 posted on 11/17/2012 12:29:15 PM PST by Goldwater Girl
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To: Clink

bttt


32 posted on 11/17/2012 1:31:41 PM PST by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: MHGinTN

Newt has already been nominated by Rep. Louis Gohmert of Texas. I like much of what Newt has to say, but I don’t have 100% trust in him. As with his Pelosi ad for global warming, I think he’s a bit like a bed of kelp and will go with the next tide.


33 posted on 11/17/2012 3:33:02 PM PST by Baynative
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To: Baynative
Right with ya', Bro!

Time to dissolve the GOP and go with the TEA.

34 posted on 11/17/2012 4:34:24 PM PST by Aevery_Freeman (The trouble with the "masses" is that they never achieve the "m")
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To: Baynative

All that sounds very good.


35 posted on 11/17/2012 10:28:23 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Gee, sorry I missed it. Maybe it needed repeating:)


36 posted on 11/18/2012 3:38:57 AM PST by Clink (Conservatives believe it when they see it. Liberals see it when they believe it.)
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