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Dropping a Class (Vanity)
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Posted on 11/19/2012 1:19:23 AM PST by MacMattico

With all of the problems going on in the world, this is trivial, hence the vanity post. But an example of what's going on in our schools and who thinks they control our kids.

My niece signed up for what should have been a simple, easy "A" grade HS class. Purely an elective, having nothing to do with requirements or career. Turns out the teacher is a real piece of work. He's intimidating and creepy. (My nieces words.) I asked if anything had happened to make her feel "creepy" and she just said she doesn't like the feeling she gets when she's alone near him.

Her mother gave her permission to drop the class and take a study hall, as she is already taking a heavy load of courses and this may ease her workload. But the school refuses! They keep saying the add/drop period is over and if she doesn't show up she will receive zero's in every other quarter as well as on the final exam! Of course, they remind her, this will take her 90+ average overall and wreck that as well. Can a school do this? My sister doesn't have a lot of $ for an attorney and I just think this is wrong.


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To: MacMattico

Mom should use the term sexual harassment, because this teacher makes her girl feel threatened. That is a HUGE buzz word.

There should never be any situation where a school FORCEs a child to be ALONE with a teacher. PERIOD.

If the girl would talk to her counselor about the incidents that make her feel creepy it would help. I agree with the paper trail

If all else fails still DROP the class. It is NOT worth it to have a child feel threatened. Take a make up class in the summer. Insist that a note be placed in daughter’s file that the child felt threatened when forced by the school to be alone with the teacher and the school refused to act.

Mom must demand that the school NEVER require require this girl to be alone with the teacher. Either a teacher’s aide or MOM attends every session of this class.

Even out of his class I wold keep an eye on this creep. We all have vibes when we are with a creep.


21 posted on 11/19/2012 2:48:40 AM PST by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: MacMattico

“intimidating and creepy”. Towards a female student.

Suggest you use the tactical nuke of bureaucracy. Have her claim “Hostile Environment”. And if she is not accommodated, she will make it public. Schools HATE witch-hunts. . .


22 posted on 11/19/2012 2:49:36 AM PST by Salgak (Acme Lasers presents: The Energizer Border. I **DARE** you to cross it. . . .)
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To: MacMattico
Being old, may not be able to add to this conversation though will attempt to add. Creepy means sometimes different things to different generations. Your concerns are warranted though. This individual teaching thing, mentioned. Some schools have a policy of no individual teaching, or one on one, at the high school level. Is this not a policy the school, in question, does not utilize? If policy. of no one on one. is not a policy at this school, maybe it is time for an adult to speak with administration, at the school, to determine what can be gleamed.
23 posted on 11/19/2012 2:52:48 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: MacMattico

Please ignore the posters who claim that she should “stick with it” because of some stupid idea of teaching her responsibility or whatever blather.

Her safety comes first. Period. Posters who think otherwise just don’t live in the real world.

Rule 1: Unless she’s shown flakey behavior before, her instincts are telling her something IMPORTANT. Listen to them!!!

Rule 2: Find the money to pay a lawyer to send a letter to the school. The letter should DEMAND that she not be left alone with this teacher OR she be allowed to withdraw. If you really can’t swing the few hundred it would take to do that, draft the letter yourself and have her Mom actually send it. The teacher may be pure as the driven snow, but see Rule 1.

Rule 3: Let’s be blunt about what we are talking about here. Again, unless she’s been a flake before using sexuality to get out of doing work, we’re talking about a situation that could escalate to sexual abuse aka rape. That would result in a lifetime of pain and misery. Grades (and some ignorant people’s ideas about a female adolescent sticking with a “decision” she made to not recognize the situationa and pull the plug earlier) PALE in comparision to that.

Rule 4: If you are in California, please private message me.


24 posted on 11/19/2012 2:56:22 AM PST by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: 9YearLurker

Seriously, have you ever had a friend raped by a creep? I doubt it. Your comment is beyond... /rest of comment redacted so I don’t get zotted


25 posted on 11/19/2012 2:58:27 AM PST by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: piytar

I’ve had plenty of creepy teachers and they never tried to rape me. The suggestion that this one is going to rape her in school during the class day is, well, I won’t say what it is.


26 posted on 11/19/2012 3:01:40 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: MacMattico

That is strange. Normally a school will allow you to drop a class for 25 dollars....maybe higher since I was in High School. I would try and talk to the administration again. The grade in the first quarter will stay and he will receive an “W” for the second quarter. However, is this a total year class or is she done in December? If it is only a semester than holding out til December might not be so bad since it is only 4 weeks away. If it is yearly, I would fight it administratively as much as possible.


27 posted on 11/19/2012 3:06:06 AM PST by napscoordinator (GOP Candidate 2020 - "Bloomberg 2020 - We vote for whatever crap the GOP puts in front of us.")
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To: MacMattico

Oops....he should be she.


28 posted on 11/19/2012 3:06:43 AM PST by napscoordinator (GOP Candidate 2020 - "Bloomberg 2020 - We vote for whatever crap the GOP puts in front of us.")
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To: 9YearLurker

I have had two friends raped by their creepy grandfather. Nobody listened to them. One is a complete train wreck to this day. Had one friend raped by a creepy teacher. Your attitude EXACTLY matches the administrations’ and her parents’ at the time. She isn’t with us any more.

So frankly, you are WAY off base. /REALLY restraining myself.


29 posted on 11/19/2012 3:07:02 AM PST by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: 9YearLurker

Oh, and did you ever have a creepy teacher force you — under pain of bad grades — be alone with them for “private instruction”? Classic predatory behavior, especially when targetted at a female adolescent without a father on the scene.


30 posted on 11/19/2012 3:09:27 AM PST by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: piytar

“be alone” should be “to be alone.” Point stands though...


31 posted on 11/19/2012 3:10:40 AM PST by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: piytar

This is a teacher in school during the school day.


32 posted on 11/19/2012 3:11:38 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker; MacMattico

Yup. So what? In private instruction? With nobody else around? Who cares that it is “in school during the school day”? Do a little Googling — happens all the time.

You really don’t understand how evil some people can be, do you? And how easy an adult male in a position of authority can take advantage of an adolescent?

Again, this teacher could be pure as the driven snow, but he MIGHT NOT BE. Given that the OP’s niece apparently has not raised these red flags before, why take the chance?

I can tell that you really don’t understand, so this will be my last response to you. To the OP: Please consider what I said in #24.


33 posted on 11/19/2012 3:17:29 AM PST by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: MacMattico
As a parent I would not take no for an answer. I would put everyone on written notice, the Principal, the School Board and yes, the teacher. I would politely explain my daughter's discomfort at being alone with any male teacher. I would explain her efforts at trying to disengage from the class. I would politely ask for this to be resolved and then I would tell them you are prepared to litigate and that if your child is emotionally damaged by all of this you will ask for monetary composition for any counseling services she may require in the future.

What this does is put the teacher on notice that his behavior has been made public. That should stop any unwanted advances. It also puts the Principal on notice that the School Board is now involved in his decision process. I believe they will all back away from their position. When it comes to your child's safety you must be aggressive. Write your letter of explanation and send it to the Principal, Teacher, and School Board members Registered, return receipt requested. This will definitely put “creepy” teacher on notice that his behavior has been made public.

34 posted on 11/19/2012 3:21:29 AM PST by ladyL
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To: ladyL; MacMattico

A well stated good strategy, ladyL.


35 posted on 11/19/2012 3:26:53 AM PST by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: Salgak

HOSTILE ENVIRONMENT

brilliant!

the new PC buzzword every liberal understands and should fear, having used it themselves to ban prayer and single sex bathrooms

Parents need to know the lingo


36 posted on 11/19/2012 3:28:03 AM PST by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: ladyL; MacMattico

Caveat: It is really best to have a good lawyer draft the letter(s) to avoid claims of defamation...


37 posted on 11/19/2012 3:28:38 AM PST by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: MacMattico

First off, it’s impossible to make a change to a HS schedule once the schedule has been set; to do so would require one of the shaved apes in the administration to stir themselves and that can’t happen.

Second, if your niece feels creeped out when she’s alone with the teacher I suggest the following course of action. She should wear a blouse she doesn’t care for with a tee shirt underneath. When alone with Uncle Creepy, she simply tears it from the neck, screams and runs to the office

During the negotiations that follow she can agree to work it out.


38 posted on 11/19/2012 3:36:30 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: MacMattico
But the school refuses!

That is what you work with, the foggy "the school."

Find out exactly who made the decision. Get the names. Bureaucrats LOVE to hide within a group's anonymity. For all you know, that "creepy" instructor could be on the staff, or one of is friends could be as well!

If it's a group, get the voting record. GET NAMES, and be insistent. Write down who you talk to, and let them see that you are writing it all down. Write down the time you talk to them. Ask them what their full name is and their position. It's very intimidating to a bureaucrat.

39 posted on 11/19/2012 3:45:32 AM PST by Loud Mime (Conservatives refused to unite; now we pay the price!)
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To: MacMattico

Keep the class. Attend EVERY one-on-one session with your daughter. Explain why to the school and the teacher in a matter-of-fact way. Explain to anyone who asks.

Problem solved.

You should also talk to the teacher individually and tell him what you think.


40 posted on 11/19/2012 3:53:51 AM PST by RFEngineer
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