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Lessons from Mega-Storm Sandy : that anyone can do.
Americanpreppers ^

Posted on 11/19/2012 12:58:23 PM PST by virgil283

Long Island residents experiences : Cash : - is king. But, we made the mistake of keeping large bills ($50s )....... Heat: I live in a house with oil heating. Without power, the heat turns doesn't work (the hot water follows suite)....... Fuel:- We topped off the tanks, but weren't expecting the gas shortage that ensued. ....Communication:- Phone lines were down and cell phone coverage was affected. I need to come up with a plan for communicating that relies on alternate sources of energy. ......Protection: - Every night I feel as though we're in a fishbowl. With no curtains on the windows, the entire world can see in and I can't see out. .....Training: - we need to be better prepared as a unit. I was the only one who knew where the flashlights and batteries were. I'm the only one who knows how to throw the main breaker or turn on/off the furnace. I will also need to make sure my wife is trained on whatever protection we obtain (shotgun, rifle or otherwise) in case I am incapable of protecting the family.....

(Excerpt) Read more at americanpreppersnetwork.net ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Reference
KEYWORDS: preppers; sandy
Three pages at the link --worth reading...A summary of the comments made----- ---Buy containers for water--5 gallon or less with a faucet---When a storm is forcast then fill them up don't wait..5gal per person per day. --Buy gas cans for 10 gallons--again fill them up when you fill up your cars--when a storm is forcast not the night before..gas can be barter. --Make a list of batteries, propane, lamp oil, plastic sheeting, etc. that you need to have on hand -and get them. --Make an agreement with someone who lives in a different area that you could go and stay with in an emergency- someone your family knows to contact if you have had to leave your home...
1 posted on 11/19/2012 12:58:26 PM PST by virgil283
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To: Kartographer

Prepper ping!


2 posted on 11/19/2012 1:02:12 PM PST by passionfruit (When illegals become legal, even they won't do the work Americans won't do)
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To: Kartographer

Ping.


3 posted on 11/19/2012 1:02:51 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: virgil283

Don’t forget about the “Water BOB” that fits inside a tub. About $30 and it’ll hold about 120 gallons of water, IIRC.

I have some surplused USGI 5gal/20L plastic cans bace by Scepter. Tough to get replacement parts, but the best cans ever made.


4 posted on 11/19/2012 1:04:49 PM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: passionfruit

That’s what I get for doing a “Preview” to make sure I got the spelling right. :-P


5 posted on 11/19/2012 1:05:04 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: virgil283

Thank you for posting this Virgil!

My hubby found this neat little stove and sent me the link. We want one! You can use twigs and small pieces of wood. You can cook with it,and charge small battery operated electronics, like cellphones! http://biolitestove.com/


6 posted on 11/19/2012 1:07:14 PM PST by passionfruit (When illegals become legal, even they won't do the work Americans won't do)
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To: virgil283
I will also need to make sure my wife is trained on whatever protection we obtain (shotgun, rifle or otherwise) in case I am incapable of protecting the family.....

One thing that many folks forget about when they buy a shotgun for home defense....hearing protection. You let loose with a 12ga or a 20ga scatter gun, it is LOUD. It will damage your hearing in close quarters.

I use the electronic headphone type of hearing protection and have a set right next to the Mossberg. There are many varieties and some are downright inexpensive.

These will actually enhances your hearing of ambient sounds in a house at night and will mute the built in microphones when it detects a noise above something like 60db. Beats the hell out of earplugs.

7 posted on 11/19/2012 1:09:03 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts ('Need' now means wanting someone else's money. 'Greed' means wanting to keep your own...)
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To: SJSAMPLE

Thank you for an excellent Christmas gift idea!
My parents live in a rural area and have well water, which doesn’t work during a power outage. This beats filling up gallon jugs in preparation for a storm.


8 posted on 11/19/2012 1:19:23 PM PST by SoKatt ("Change" is not a strategy!)
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To: SoKatt

You’re welcome:
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=pd_sl_836rwqova_e?rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Awater+bob&keywords=water+bob&ie=UTF8&psrk=water+BOB


9 posted on 11/19/2012 1:21:21 PM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

I’m a retired army vet. On the firings we always used hearing protection. I have never had time to put on hearing protection when facing hostile activity. To hesitate that long might just get you killed. Arm yourself first, make the weapon ready to fire, assess the situation, put yourself where you need to be and then put on hearing protection. Protect life first.
I use this type of hearing protection now while on the range but no other place.


10 posted on 11/19/2012 1:57:28 PM PST by oldenuff2no
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To: virgil283
Lessons from Mega-Storm Sandy : that anyone can do.

11 posted on 11/19/2012 1:59:45 PM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Preppers’ PING!!


12 posted on 11/19/2012 2:00:37 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Preppers’ PING!!


13 posted on 11/19/2012 2:01:32 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: oh8eleven
Excuss me?



14 posted on 11/19/2012 2:09:31 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: oh8eleven

LOL - nicely done, and spot on.


15 posted on 11/19/2012 2:14:40 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est.)
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To: virgil283

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16 posted on 11/19/2012 2:15:00 PM PST by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: passionfruit

That stove is interesting but only as a backup to your backup. Get a liquid multi fuel camping stove that burns reg gas, a multi fuel lantern and a propane lantern. Then get the converter that allows you to burn propane in the same stove. Buy the hoses and lager bulk propane tanks and a couple of indoor rated heaters that will also run off of the propane tank. Add an upright distrabution pole to the tank and you got it all together. A stove to cook on, heaters, and light. Two to four 10 gallon propane tanks will last you for a couple of months if you watch how much you use everything. Keep the gas in reserve and use it in the stove and the multi fuel lantern if the situation is prolonged.
The best advise I can give to the “city folks” is to become avid campers. Go places that have no electricity or bathroom and see what you need to survive (fuel, warmth, food, sanitation, and water) then see what you want to add to be somewhat comfortable for two months. This will be the least of the amount of equipment and supplies that you should have stashed.
If this storm has taught the city folks anything at all it should be that they need to ready to take care of themselves and not leave it to the government to bail their butts out.


17 posted on 11/19/2012 2:16:05 PM PST by oldenuff2no
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To: oldenuff2no

I built myself one of these:

Ammo Can Rocket Stove:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2850938/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2914240/posts


18 posted on 11/19/2012 2:20:01 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Funny story about ear plugs: I went to a nondenominational church and they hand out ear plugs when you enter in case the music is too loud for you. It was loud but I didn't use them. I kept the ear plugs in case I needed them for something else - shooting a gun would qualify.

Last Christmas, I went to a movie with relatives who were visiting. Had not been in a movie theater in years. The sound was so loud, it had to be destroying people's hearing (and I didn't have those ear plugs with me). I thought the people in there are going to have hearing aids in the future. If I had been my myself I would have left. I never want to go to a movie theater again. If you haven't been in years, don't go as the sound will kill your ears.

19 posted on 11/19/2012 2:29:14 PM PST by Marcella (When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.)
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To: SJSAMPLE

Thanks for the link


20 posted on 11/19/2012 2:30:12 PM PST by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: Marcella

A few years back, the husband and I left a movie theater because the sound was too loud. So rarely go to a movie, anyway, because there are so few worth attending.


21 posted on 11/19/2012 2:53:01 PM PST by Bigg Red (Sorry, Mr. Franklin, I guess we couldn't keep it.)
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To: Kartographer

Did the house in the middle picture have built up natural burms around it?

Clever. Very clever. I will remember that.


22 posted on 11/19/2012 2:55:58 PM PST by RikaStrom ("To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize." ~Voltaire)
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To: RikaStrom

You might like this article:

Ring dike program will protect more than just farms

http://minnesota.publicradio.org/display/web/2009/10/26/ring-dike-program/


23 posted on 11/19/2012 3:34:08 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Bigg Red

“A few years back, the husband and I left a movie theater because the sound was too loud.”

Those two relatives will be visiting this week for Thanksgiving and also at Christmas. If they bring up movie at Christmas since they will have more days here, they can go but not me. I thought my head would explode - no one should have sound that loud in the ears. The husband of those two already has a hearing problem. He didn’t get that from movies, but it can’t be helping his already decreased hearing in one ear.


24 posted on 11/19/2012 3:45:24 PM PST by Marcella (When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.)
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To: Kartographer

We might want to consider an post on the alternate communications thing mentioned by one of their posters about cells and landlines not working.

I used to be big into CB’s a while back. I still have a couple of mobils an two handheld. I bought a Midland base station that has am, fm, noaa and twoway radio options, along with flashlight, hand crank, ac charger and alternate aaa batteries.

That along with a couple of 32 mile handheld that have the two way plus NOAA. Rechargable, ac or aa batteries are the options.

Have not tried them out yet but if someone has please let us know.


25 posted on 11/19/2012 3:54:57 PM PST by tall_tex
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To: Kartographer

Why did those people build their farm out in the middle of a lake? :)


26 posted on 11/19/2012 5:14:56 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Kartographer
Excuss me?
Not sure I can do that - not sure I want to even try.
However, I will say this - substitute Mississippi River (or any large body of water that has flooded its banks for centuries), for the word Coastline or Ocean.
27 posted on 11/19/2012 5:38:06 PM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: virgil283

I just got a CB and in a year or 2 I’m getting a HAM radio.


28 posted on 11/19/2012 7:08:01 PM PST by ryan71 (Water, food and ammo.)
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To: oh8eleven
Not sure I want you to try.

Floods can happen just about anywhere:
Bennington Police Chief Paul Doucette looks at a collapsed bridge on Route 9 in Woodford, Vt., on Sunday, Aug. 28, 2011.

A car sits surrounded by mud and debris next to Rio Ruidoso on Tuesday. Devastating floods ravaged the Ruidoso, N.M., area over the weekend.

Flooding near the Alabama State House on Thursday.
29 posted on 11/19/2012 7:37:41 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: passionfruit

That looks like a great stove, might be a good Christmas present.


30 posted on 11/19/2012 7:50:07 PM PST by Betis70 ("Leading from Behind" gets your Ambassador killed)
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To: oldenuff2no

Actually, we have a kitchen range that s quite simple. It was a gas stove, that we had converted to propane. I can light it with a match if the power goes out and the electronic ignition doesn’t work, for heat, we have a wood stove that isnt designed gor coming in the livingroom. It has a large flattop, so I can and do, cook on it, I have some enameled Dutch ovens that I use on that stove for cooking all the time. I use it for applications that are low and slow, and I love the idea that I’m using the wood that we heat the house with to cook, and we aren’t paying twice, once to heather house, and once to heat the food.

The only way we could be more efficient would be to also heat our water, and we usually have two stock pots of water on the wood stove filled with water, which I use to wash dishes. Eventually, we would like to do something with the wood stove and coiled copper tubing to heat water for showers, etc.

If we were to get the Bio Lite stove, it would be a backup, that would allow us to charge cell phones and iPads. I’m impressed with the technology and at $129.00, it is pretty reasonable. When the weather is too hot to cook inside with the wood stove, I could fire that puppy up outside to cook and keep the indoor temp bearable!

That would also be a backup, as I have a large grill (wood fired BBQ) that I use all the time to cook entire meals. With meat on one side and a skillet or saucepan on the other. I have preps for cooking off grid and use them all the time.


31 posted on 11/19/2012 10:18:02 PM PST by passionfruit (When illegals become legal, even they won't do the work Americans won't do)
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To: oldenuff2no

I keep an MSR Dragonfly stove in a 50 cal ammo can, along with two fuel bottles of white gas and a spare gallon of white gas handy. I can load it with regular gasoline or convert it to diesel, if necessary. My kids and I cook on it during the summer, just to make sure it’s working.

Good advise on testing your gear. My MSR stove was giving me fits, so I finally did some maintenance and replaced the original factory pump with a new model. It now runs (and sounds) like a jet engine.

I also have isobutane “Pocket Rocket” stoves, along with hand-made alcohol stoves. I keep three filled propane tanks handy, and can use those on my backyard grill which has a separate stove burner.

I’m watching the news this morning and FOX seems to have a habit of hosting bitchy, whiny survivors who think that their house deserves some special attention. THOUSANDS of homes were destroyed and they’re bitching about “disaster” relief. In any other country, they’re be pulling hundreds or even thousands of bodies out of the mud and the entire world would be mounting massive relief efforts. Sure, some people died, but everybody left behind has significantly better options than the rest of the world. They need to nut up and get on with reconstruction. Going on FOX News isn’t going to help.


32 posted on 11/20/2012 5:05:38 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: oldenuff2no

Agreed. Seconds count...but I can only base what I post here on my own experiences and my own environs. In my setup, there would be time, 99% of the time, to don hearing protection.


33 posted on 11/20/2012 6:20:59 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts ('Need' now means wanting someone else's money. 'Greed' means wanting to keep your own...)
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