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Big News From Mars? Rover Scientists Mum For Now
npr.org ^ | Nov. 20, 2012 | Joe Palca

Posted on 11/20/2012 7:03:34 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY

Scientists working on NASA's six-wheeled rover on Mars have a problem. But it's a good problem.

They have some exciting new results from one of the rover's instruments. On the one hand, they'd like to tell everybody what they found, but on the other, they have to wait because they want to make sure their results are not just some fluke or error in their instrument.

It's a bind scientists frequently find themselves in, because by their nature, scientists like to share their results. At the same time, they're cautious because no one likes to make a big announcement and then have to say "never mind."

The exciting results are coming from an instrument in the rover called SAM. "We're getting data from SAM as we sit here and speak, and the data looks really interesting," John Grotzinger, the principal investigator for the rover mission, says during my visit last week to his office at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif. That's where data from SAM first arrive on Earth. "The science team is busily chewing away on it as it comes down," says Grotzinger.

SAM is a kind of miniature chemistry lab. Put a sample of Martian soil or rock or even air inside SAM, and it will tell you what the sample is made of.

Grotzinger says they recently put a soil sample in SAM, and the analysis shows something earthshaking. "This data is gonna be one for the history books. It's looking really good," he says.

Grotzinger can see the pained look on my face as I wait, hoping he'll tell me what the heck he's found, but he's not providing any more information.

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1 posted on 11/20/2012 7:03:37 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

most likely it’s something more like a cigarette butt than simple chemistry


2 posted on 11/20/2012 7:05:36 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

The Rover found Jimmy Hoffa’s body.


3 posted on 11/20/2012 7:07:26 PM PST by MIchaelTArchangel
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To: Free ThinkerNY

They found that U.S. flag that Congresswoman Shelia Jackson Lee said Neil Armstrong had planted on Mars?


4 posted on 11/20/2012 7:12:15 PM PST by Bigtigermike
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Obama’s College Transcripts or Biden’s brain.


5 posted on 11/20/2012 7:12:51 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Life is just a bowl of Low Information Voters.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Hard to read this any other way, except that the rover’s instruments have indicated irrefutable evidence for past or present life on Mars.

Even if it’s only microbial, it’s the gateway to a new paradigm.


6 posted on 11/20/2012 7:13:02 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Obama’s birth certificate?


7 posted on 11/20/2012 7:13:35 PM PST by FrankR (They will become our ultimate masters the day we surrender the 2nd Amendment.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

They found A E I O U and sometimes Y


8 posted on 11/20/2012 7:14:22 PM PST by Bigtigermike
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To: Free ThinkerNY
In other words, nothing.

Why even say anything until you're ready to say something? Drama queens.

9 posted on 11/20/2012 7:15:35 PM PST by brewcrew
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The news from Mars is “earthshaking?!” (Maybe they found Immanuel Velikovsky up there?)


10 posted on 11/20/2012 7:16:17 PM PST by faithhopecharity
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To: Free ThinkerNY

They didn’t find a damn thing up there that will change anything of any real/practical/everyday importance here.


11 posted on 11/20/2012 7:19:11 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: Windflier

I would not be a bit surprised.


12 posted on 11/20/2012 7:20:29 PM PST by albionin
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To: Free ThinkerNY

A chemical analyst that could possibly indicate that there was life on Mars at some time in history? Or not.

Must be budget time over at NASA. Startling new discovery that will probably amount to nothing. We get these discoveries every year around budget time.


13 posted on 11/20/2012 7:20:41 PM PST by doc1019 (Islam, the religion of animals.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

They found a beeber like device


14 posted on 11/20/2012 7:21:56 PM PST by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I’ll bet they found a rock. NASA finds more rocks than Charlie Brown finds in his Halloween bag.


15 posted on 11/20/2012 7:25:12 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: blueunicorn6

Martian Latrine ?


16 posted on 11/20/2012 7:28:14 PM PST by molson209
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To: vladimir998

You don’t think the existence of life on another planet is a significant discovery? I think if it’s true it will be one of the most important discoveries in history. Some will greet it with excitement and some with dread.


17 posted on 11/20/2012 7:35:01 PM PST by albionin
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Reading the comments, it proves once again, there are many here on earth, the "flat earth society" if you will, feel their self importance with the universe revolving around earth, is being threatened, with others demanding answers now, regardless of the need to study and interpret the data.

Fascinating.

18 posted on 11/20/2012 7:37:15 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: albionin

If there is life on Mars, it came from Earth anyway.

violent eruptions at the beginning of the Genesis judgment sent jets of water into orbit, creating the comets, and there is no reason not to believe that some of that water would have hit other planets, or moons.


19 posted on 11/20/2012 7:39:29 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

They found John Boehner’s spine?


20 posted on 11/20/2012 7:39:42 PM PST by Fzob (In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. Jefferson)
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To: FrankR

Obama is related to the President of Mars


21 posted on 11/20/2012 7:40:15 PM PST by molson209
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To: molson209

If them Martians are wiping with rocks than we might as well surrender right now. I don’t want to be fighting any Nancy Pelosi green Martian thingy that can wipe with a rock.


22 posted on 11/20/2012 7:52:23 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Free ThinkerNY

http://www.moviesoundclips.net/download.php?id=1648&ft=wav


23 posted on 11/20/2012 7:53:06 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. ItClimate change! is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: molson209

Ol’ Waylon....pretty simple: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwwGjOj1clc


24 posted on 11/20/2012 7:53:56 PM PST by stickywillie
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To: editor-surveyor

What if it turns out to be different from the life on Earth? What if it uses completely different base pairs for its DNA? What if it uses something other than DNA? These are all questions which will need to be answered.


25 posted on 11/20/2012 7:57:45 PM PST by albionin
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The found the missing votes that put Romney over the top for the election?


26 posted on 11/20/2012 7:59:56 PM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: editor-surveyor
...violent eruptions at the beginning of the Genesis judgment sent jets of water into orbit, creating the comets

Are you saying that jets of water from earth created the comets in the solar system? Perhaps you're referring to your personal religious belief, and not scientific fact. Is that it?

27 posted on 11/20/2012 8:01:01 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I hope they found evidence of past or present life,

God is a creator and creative enough to have filled up the entire universe with life if he so desired, creating is what he does,

We have marine species in the deepest parts of the ocean that humans have never encountered, what does that have to do with us, and whats the difference if we move out into space and Jupiter’s moon Europa has sea life in its 60 mile deep oceans, or a warmer and wetter mars in the distant past had microbial life, it would be exciting,


28 posted on 11/20/2012 8:03:31 PM PST by captmar-vell
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To: Windflier

I would think there is not enough water on Earth to account for even a small fraction of the comets in the Oort cloud. Maybe someone in the know can answer that.


29 posted on 11/20/2012 8:05:35 PM PST by albionin
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To: albionin
I would think there is not enough water on Earth to account for even a small fraction of the comets in the Oort cloud. Maybe someone in the know can answer that.

I agree with your thought on that, and suspect that someone will be along shortly to give us the scientific facts on it.

30 posted on 11/20/2012 8:07:40 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: brewcrew

that’s an understatement HA


31 posted on 11/20/2012 8:09:14 PM PST by Tyrannis (Long Live The Republic)
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To: Windflier

There is a computation spreadsheet on it available to those that enjoy scepticism, but anyway, Earth is the only possible source of the water, since Earth is coplanar to the orbits of all of them. (Kepler worked that out hundreds of years ago)


32 posted on 11/20/2012 8:10:27 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: albionin

What oort cloud?

It’s very existence is a raving mad theory.


33 posted on 11/20/2012 8:12:08 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

Wait a minute. Isn’t The Earth coplanar with almost all of the bodies in the solar system?


34 posted on 11/20/2012 8:13:37 PM PST by albionin
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To: editor-surveyor

I saw them in all of the Lord of the Ring movies. Ugly suckers. You can’t tell me they don’t exist. Frodo had a sword that glowed blue when they came around.


35 posted on 11/20/2012 8:16:25 PM PST by albionin
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To: Fzob

>> “They found John Boehner’s spine?” <<

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Could be, they said it looked like a worm...


36 posted on 11/20/2012 8:17:32 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: albionin

Cool!


37 posted on 11/20/2012 8:18:21 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

The Oort Cloud that comes out of Uranus!


38 posted on 11/20/2012 8:18:44 PM PST by Empireoftheatom48 (God help the Republic)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
At the same time, they're cautious because no one likes to make a big announcement and then have to say "never mind."

Why not?

What makes them so special?

Global warming "scientists" don't mind making big announcements after they "discover" big things with their "research". Let's make the announcements and let's do all kinds of jumping to conclusions, and then, once we gather enough opinions, we can claim through consensus that, the science is settled and that, life on Mars exists, and it might threaten life here on earth.
39 posted on 11/20/2012 8:19:30 PM PST by adorno (Y)
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>> “Wait a minute. Isn’t The Earth coplanar with almost all of the bodies in the solar system?” <<

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No, but the sun is.

The planetary orbits are all perturbed. There is a theory that at one time Mars crossed Earth’s orbit in a near miss trajectory. (has support in folk lore)


40 posted on 11/20/2012 8:21:59 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: adorno

Gee I never thought of that. I hope the Mar’s rover washes its hands before coming back to Earth. Sorry, couldn’t resist.


41 posted on 11/20/2012 8:22:36 PM PST by albionin
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To: Empireoftheatom48

Not mine, maybe yours?


42 posted on 11/20/2012 8:23:36 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

They found a monolith with perfect 1-4-9 dimensions.


43 posted on 11/20/2012 8:23:39 PM PST by lwoodham (I am Andrew Breitbart. Don't doubt me on this.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Snickers


44 posted on 11/20/2012 8:25:47 PM PST by gusopol3
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To: captmar-vell
I'm glad to hear you say that.

I have seen some Christians here on FR who apparently think the rest of the visible universe is devoid of life and was created for no other purpose than to provide pretty twinkling night lights for the Garden of Eden.

45 posted on 11/20/2012 8:27:29 PM PST by Notary Sojac (Only liberals believe that people can be made virtuous via legislative enactment.)
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To: editor-surveyor

Wow. wouldn’t want to be around when Mars did a crunchy with the Earth. wonder what the kinetic energy release would be for something like that.


46 posted on 11/20/2012 8:27:49 PM PST by albionin
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To: albionin

Google “Theia planet” sometime. All the calculations have already been done.


47 posted on 11/20/2012 8:31:37 PM PST by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: Little Pig

Thanks.


48 posted on 11/20/2012 8:33:49 PM PST by albionin
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To: Free ThinkerNY

It’s the next page of the Mayan calendar.


49 posted on 11/20/2012 8:34:58 PM PST by PAR35
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To: Free ThinkerNY

50 posted on 11/20/2012 8:35:17 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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