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2012 FORMULA 1 GRAND PRIX PETROBRAS DO BRASIL - LIVE THREAD
Chode ^ | 11/22/2012 | Chode

Posted on 11/22/2012 7:37:11 PM PST by Chode

Formula 1 São Paulo 2012

Race Date: 25 Nov 2012

Circuit Name: Autodromo Jose Carlos Pace

First Grand Prix: 1973

Number of Laps: 71
Circuit Length: 4.309 km
Race Distance: 305.909 km
Lap Record: 1:11.473 - JP Montoya (2004)

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TOPICS: Sports
KEYWORDS: f1; formulaone; grandprix
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To: Lockbox
could get ugly...
41 posted on 11/28/2012 7:11:30 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode

Considering how much money is on the line I don’t blame Ferrari for trying. But it was investigated during the race and the Stewards made the call. I can’t imagine Charlie Whiting would be too keen on being overturned.


42 posted on 11/28/2012 8:02:48 PM PST by henkster ("The people who count the votes decide everything." -Joseph Stalin)
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To: henkster
like bobby.223 said, i'm not sure they have the juice anymore...
43 posted on 11/28/2012 8:15:33 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode
it did look like a yellow light to me .... I heard something about the yellow light was on because of slippery conditions and wasn't therefore a yellow yellow light for an accident or debris on the track

is that like the distinction between rape and rape rape?

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44 posted on 11/29/2012 5:03:35 AM PST by Elle Bee
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To: Elle Bee
good question... then there's the case of the flagman waving a green flag, that will come into play also
45 posted on 11/29/2012 5:07:36 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode

You would think with all their technical telemetry wizardry that their timing & scoring would be able to show the location of the cars on the track when a caution is declared, and therefore whether or not a position change occurred in a caution sector. But hey, without the human element and uncertainty of outcome, why watch the race at all?


46 posted on 11/29/2012 5:52:55 AM PST by henkster ("The people who count the votes decide everything." -Joseph Stalin)
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To: Lockbox

Vettel and Alonso should have a shootout race. I say Monaco....


47 posted on 11/29/2012 6:13:11 AM PST by cld51860 (Oderint dum metuant)
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To: Chode
LOL! This "controversy" and the associated comments here and at other motorsports forums (ex: NoGrip's Real Life Motorsports forum\Brazilian Grand Prix thread) are almost as exciting as the 2012 F1 season!

A flashing yellow light is the traditional "yellow flag", but is superseded by a real-life marshal with a flag. A solid yellow is to signify a hazardous area (lots of water, debris, etc). Passing is allowed under solid yellow.

No marshal reported an incident to the FIA about Vettel's pass. Ferrari is said to have asked for a "clarification" by the FIA of a posted YT video of the lap 4 pass.

Such is racing, but I'd hate for the season to end like this. It's almost like a hanging chad syndrome! If all this had happened in real time (during the race) and Vettel penalized, resulting in Alonso winning the championship, I'd have been happy with that. I'm just glad it was an interesting season right down to the the last lap of the last race, whoever won!

48 posted on 11/29/2012 10:04:27 AM PST by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: cld51860

Too late, the FIA already made the call. Too bad because a one race, winner take all would have been great!


49 posted on 11/29/2012 2:20:37 PM PST by Lockbox
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To: Elle Bee; henkster; cld51860; jeffc; Lockbox
thank God...

It has emerged that the incident was not investigated during the race because a green flag was being waved at a marshals' post after Turn Three. Vettel only began his move after passing that flag.

"The incident wasn't reported to stewards in the first place because it didn't seem like there was a need to report it at the time," Norman Howell, the director of communications for the International Automobile Federation (FIA), said. "Now that Ferrari has sent us a letter asking for an explanation we will give it to them."

That means the move was viewed at the time as legitimate and so race control, which judges potential infringements, was not informed and the stewards did not become involved.

50 posted on 11/29/2012 3:06:13 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode

Good. The Championship was decided where it should be; on the track. Glad to see that the FIA thought this one is a no-brainer.


51 posted on 11/29/2012 4:18:24 PM PST by henkster ("The people who count the votes decide everything." -Joseph Stalin)
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To: henkster
100%
52 posted on 11/29/2012 4:34:49 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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