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Plastic light bulbs have all the benefits of LEDs, none of the downsides
The Verge ^ | 12/3/12 | Ben Kersey

Posted on 12/03/2012 8:54:16 AM PST by LibWhacker

Scientists at the Wake Forest University have created a new type of light bulb that promises to be just as efficient as LED equivalents, but without any of the drawbacks. The new field-induced polymer electroluminescent bulbs — FIPEL for short — produce light when an electric current is passed through the nano-engineered plastic layers. The team says that the new type of bulbs are malleable, allowing them to take any shape like compact fluorescent lamps. They also won’t shatter like traditional bulbs, nor will they generate the same hum or flicker.

The inventor of FIPEL, Dr David Carroll, believes that the new solution is superior to LED bulbs: "There's a limit to how much brightness you can get out of them. If you run too much current through them they melt." Not only that, the light generated by FIPEL bulbs is closer to natural sunlight, unlike the bluish tint generated by LEDs. Any worries about longevity are also put to rest by Carroll, who claims to have had a FIPEL prototype working in his laboratory for almost a decade. As for when the technology will make the jump to a commercial product, the team says that a "corporate partner" is interested in producing the new bulbs at scale, with the first run expected in 2013.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Science
KEYWORDS: bulbs; led; light; lightbulb; plastic
But, Dr. Carroll, libs will only sign off on these if you promise not to develop any light bulb that puts out more light than an appliance bulb. They only want to make us ungrateful types go back to a pre-industrial standard of living for our own good!
1 posted on 12/03/2012 8:54:27 AM PST by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

Won’t be allowed unless he gives GE the patent.


2 posted on 12/03/2012 8:56:18 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: LibWhacker

interesting, and to bad he apparently knows nothing about LEDs.


3 posted on 12/03/2012 9:03:40 AM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: LibWhacker
And this is the fist and last you'll ever hear of them.
4 posted on 12/03/2012 9:06:18 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the state." - Cornelius Tacitus, Roman Senator)
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To: LibWhacker

Give me the same temp and wattage of an incandescent or go home...

Uniformly, the quality of light from every CFL and LED I’ve tried has sucked. It’s either too cool and antiseptic, or not bright enough period...


5 posted on 12/03/2012 9:06:53 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

He has had one for a decade and it still hasn’t hit the marget, I wonder why.


6 posted on 12/03/2012 9:09:10 AM PST by riverrunner
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To: LibWhacker

For those interested in the tech side of this:

Effect of multi-walled carbon nanotubes on electron injection and charge generation in AC field-induced polymer electroluminescence
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1566119912004831


7 posted on 12/03/2012 9:09:19 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: LibWhacker

Plastic = Oil = Carbon Tax = not affordable.


8 posted on 12/03/2012 9:09:53 AM PST by x_plus_one
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To: svcw; LibWhacker

It appears the problem lies with the blogger who copied pieces from the original article combining sections talking about organic LEDs and left that description out.

Plastic bulb development promises better quality light
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-20553143


9 posted on 12/03/2012 9:15:07 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Dead Corpse
Uniformly, the quality of light from every CFL and LED I’ve tried has sucked. It’s either too cool and antiseptic, or not bright enough period...

I've seen a lot of bright, beautiful LED bulbs in Asia. Ours are way overpriced and somewhat weak - and I suspect there is some government regulation or another behind that.

10 posted on 12/03/2012 9:17:56 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

The bulbs you are seeing in Asia, will probably hit the US market in the spring of 2014.
Part of the reason these bulbs are in Europe and Asia first is apparently the base for the bulb on their lamps are easier to produce than the screw in base we have.
The first bulbs will probably be 75 or 100 W equivalent for about $10 with a fifteen year life.
They will be white light.


11 posted on 12/03/2012 9:22:30 AM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: LibWhacker

I bought a Christmas electric blanket with small light bulbs that don’t get hot.

How sweet it is!


12 posted on 12/03/2012 9:26:21 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Getting more than a little tired of that...


13 posted on 12/03/2012 9:26:23 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: LibWhacker

See, get gummint out of the role of telling us what kind of light bulbs are best, and something better comes along.

It’s called innovation. Private business does it.


14 posted on 12/03/2012 9:33:52 AM PST by bigbob
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To: LibWhacker

But will they make me sick like LEDs do? :P


15 posted on 12/03/2012 9:59:45 AM PST by Politicalmom (Liberalism. Ideas so great they have to be mandatory.-FReeper Osage Orange)
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To: svcw
Part of the reason these bulbs are in Europe and Asia first is apparently the base for the bulb on their lamps are easier to produce than the screw in base we have.

The E-type base ('Edison screw') is pretty much universal.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edison_screw

16 posted on 12/03/2012 10:13:51 AM PST by Moltke ("I am Dr. Sonderborg," he said, "and I don't want any nonsense.")
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To: LibWhacker

Great..how’s *this* going to help my Easy Bake Oven???


17 posted on 12/03/2012 10:32:29 AM PST by The Duke
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To: LibWhacker

Low cost must not be a selling point since it’s not mentioned in the first or second paragraph?


18 posted on 12/03/2012 10:35:03 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: svcw

Yes, my church just installed LED lighting and the color and brightness are indistinguishable from the incandescent lamps they replaced.


19 posted on 12/03/2012 10:41:14 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: riverrunner

that’s because the marget is always left of the target...


20 posted on 12/03/2012 10:49:33 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Moltke

The MR16 is the most common bulb configuration in Asia and Europe.
Here’s what it looks like.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MR16


21 posted on 12/03/2012 10:57:12 AM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

And your church budget will get some relief from high power bills.


22 posted on 12/03/2012 10:58:32 AM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: svcw
And your church budget will get some relief from high power bills.

3 watts per fixture vs. 100


23 posted on 12/03/2012 11:05:06 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Politicalmom

I am curious, how do LEDs make you sick?


24 posted on 12/03/2012 11:06:18 AM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: svcw

No it isn’t.

I’m in Europe and 90+% (my best guess) of light fixtures are E-type. All of mine are, save for a few neon (flourescent) lights. Same for my office, and anyone I know. I have a few CFLs and they have the Edison screw.

Those MR16s are more of a designer/specialty variant. Just like in the US. The market share is small compared to the E-type (of all sizes), which is the *standard* for incandescent bulbs of any variety, including reflector bulbs etc. Trust me on this.


25 posted on 12/03/2012 11:18:41 AM PST by Moltke ("I am Dr. Sonderborg," he said, "and I don't want any nonsense.")
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To: Moltke

Ok, whatever you say.


26 posted on 12/03/2012 11:20:16 AM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: LibWhacker

I’m sure 0bama has Regulations or an EO that will make sure they never see the “Light of Day”

TT


27 posted on 12/03/2012 11:30:01 AM PST by TexasTransplant (Radical islam is islam. Moderate islam is the Trojan Horse.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
3 watts per fixture vs. 100

A 3 watt led is nowhere near the equivalent of a 100 watt bulb.

""As of March 2011, manufacturers were just starting to produce high-powered LEDs for the home. Philips has developed a 60-watt replacement that only uses 12 watts of power, while GE has developed a 40-watt replacement that uses only 9 watts of power"".

28 posted on 12/03/2012 11:49:58 AM PST by ansel12 (The only Senate seat GOP pick up was the Palin endorsed Deb Fischer's successful run in Nebraska)
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To: thackney

” Effect of multi-walled carbon nanotubes on electron injection and charge generation in AC field-induced polymer electroluminescence”

Er, um, yeah. That’s my theory too.


29 posted on 12/03/2012 1:11:11 PM PST by lowbridge (Joe Biden: "Look, the Taliban per se is not our enemy.")
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To: svcw
MR16 is the "bulb and reflector" portion of the lamp, not the base.

The MR16 lamps are available with an medium screw base.

What are MR16 lamps?
http://www.lrc.rpi.edu/programs/nlpip/lightingAnswers/mr16/whatAreMR16.asp

30 posted on 12/03/2012 1:31:20 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: svcw

Will they be GU10 base?


31 posted on 12/03/2012 2:29:04 PM PST by fanfan ("But if Muslims were asked to go to church on Sunday and take Holy Communion there would be war.")
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To: fanfan

That sure looks like it.
Halogen replacement bulbs.
All I can tell you is that within two years the market will be flooded with LEDs with good light and that are inexpensive for the light time.
The Asian markets, and European markets are already replacing bulbs with these LED bulbs.


32 posted on 12/03/2012 2:43:14 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: svcw

I bought some for the Christmas tree and mantel, and looking at them made me get nauseated. It’s like they pulsate or something. I had to move them outside. I HATE them.


33 posted on 12/03/2012 6:12:43 PM PST by Politicalmom (Liberalism. Ideas so great they have to be mandatory.-FReeper Osage Orange)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I suspect they hired an electrical engineer or lighting designer who had a clue.


34 posted on 12/03/2012 6:53:24 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Politicalmom

Yks!
They do flicker at 60 pulses per second, where incandescent blubs are constant.
Even though consciously we can’t detect that it almost sounds like somehow you are perceiving the pulsing, maybe that’s why you fell ill.
I know for myself florescent light gives me a headache.


35 posted on 12/03/2012 6:54:07 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: Politicalmom

6 or 7 years ago i did up the whole outside of my house in LED Christmas lights.
Biggest mistake ever!
They gave off a goulish glow, and you are right, if i move my head too fast they seem like they are blinking or oscillating.
Now i have a 15 pound bag of useless lights up in my attic, What a waste.


36 posted on 12/03/2012 8:27:58 PM PST by mowowie
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To: svcw
Did you read about the new plastic bulbs?

Those could be promising.

37 posted on 12/06/2012 4:13:11 PM PST by fanfan ("But if Muslims were asked to go to church on Sunday and take Holy Communion there would be war.")
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To: fanfan

They could be indeed.
I am particle to LEDs, here is an up and coming private company, very promising.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVFFwOIPS9c


38 posted on 12/06/2012 5:21:57 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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Thanks LibWhacker.
39 posted on 12/15/2012 7:34:44 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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