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Why Are Preppers Hated So Much?
End of the American Dream.com ^ | 12/10/12 | By Michael

Posted on 12/11/2012 3:37:42 PM PST by Kartographer

Have you noticed that it has become trendy to bash preppers? For a long time the prepper movement was ignored, but now it has become so large that it is getting very difficult for the mainstream media to pretend that it is not there. In fact, it has been estimated that there are now approximately 3 million preppers in the United States alone. So now the mainstream media has decided that mocking the movement is the best strategy, and lots of “critics” and “skeptics” out there have picked up on this trend. Instead of addressing the very real issues that have caused millions of Americans to prepare for the worst, those criticizing the prepper movement attempt to put the focus on individual personalities. They try to find the strangest nutjobs they possibly can and then hold them up as “typical preppers”. The goal is to portray preppers as tinfoil hat wearing freaks that need to be locked up in the loony bin for their own personal safety and for the good of society. The criticism of preppers has really ramped up in recent months, and it will likely get even worse in 2013. The establishment does not like any movement that is outside of their control, and the prepper movement is definitely not under their control.

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Thanks to FReper LucyT for the heads-up!
1 posted on 12/11/2012 3:37:44 PM PST by Kartographer
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Preppers’ PING!!


2 posted on 12/11/2012 3:39:23 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

Noah was mocked and vilified too.


5 posted on 12/11/2012 3:43:01 PM PST by TADSLOS (No need to watch the movie "Idiocracy". We're living it.)
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To: Kartographer

“Why Are Preppers Hated So Much?”

Easy - armed white men scare the sh#% out of liberals. They hate armed white men more than AIDS. So they use the same tactic they use against birhers- ridicule.


6 posted on 12/11/2012 3:44:29 PM PST by kreitzer
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To: Kartographer
I figure it's because we disturb their world view. "Bad things can't happen to me.. or here in the US, so you must be a nut."

Delusions only last so long after reality strikes.

/johnny

7 posted on 12/11/2012 3:45:46 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Kartographer

If they prepped more and talked less, maybe nobody would notice them — and, isn’t that the idea?

I have a hunch that the best preppers are the ones no one knows about when the SHTF.


8 posted on 12/11/2012 3:46:27 PM PST by Migraine (Diversity is great; until it happens to YOU.)
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To: Kartographer
What makes individual Americans who prepare for disaster so much worse than our president & congresspeople, who will enjoy top drawer accomodations should the SHTF?

At least they prep with their own money.

9 posted on 12/11/2012 3:47:42 PM PST by skeeter
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To: Kartographer

Apparently because we just play with toys.... /S


10 posted on 12/11/2012 3:47:42 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Kartographer; All

Obviously, Preppers are hated because they are not relying on the Government for anything

Even GOP Liberals hate the Preppers....although have no problem taking ads from Prepper food and supply companies.


11 posted on 12/11/2012 3:49:04 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (Seems that the ones who understand little about the economy are economists)
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To: Kartographer

Noah has a similar problem.


12 posted on 12/11/2012 3:49:52 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: Kartographer

Remember the quote “there’s no way to rule innocent men...”?
Goes for self-sufficient men too. Can’t manipulate someone you can’t get leverage on.


13 posted on 12/11/2012 3:50:37 PM PST by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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To: JRandomFreeper
I figure it's because we disturb their world view. "Bad things can't happen to me.. or here in the US, so you must be a nut."

Nailed it

14 posted on 12/11/2012 3:52:53 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: Kartographer

My guess is that we scare them because we don’t need Government to ‘save’ us - from what is usually Government-induced disasters in the FIRST place!

Prep on! :)


15 posted on 12/11/2012 3:53:16 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: Migraine
If they prepped more and talked less, maybe nobody would notice them — and, isn’t that the idea?

No, it's not the idea. The idea is to encourage communities to prepare themselves for disasters.

I've never lived my life skulking around. This is the US. I'll speak up to educate those that are interested. Anyone doesn't like it can lump it.

/johnny

16 posted on 12/11/2012 3:53:19 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Kartographer
Because we're REAL boy scouts and not those ecology badge wooses

We can friggin' tie knots, start fires, patch the wounded, house the shelterless, warm the cold and eat pretty good too.

17 posted on 12/11/2012 3:56:41 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Kartographer

My husband’s brother lives in Wichita, Kansas and when he built his home he had a bomb shelter installed that could be accessed from the basement but that also had an outside exit. His neighbors laughed at him for having a bomb shelter. When the tornado swept through the neighborhood this past April Evan and his family came through it just fine in the shelter. They also had a ready-made place to live while they repaired the damage to their house.

Some of their snarky neighbors aren’t around anymore to hear them say, “I told you so.”

Ditto with the preppers. Maybe they’re wrong and nothing will happen. So then what’s the harm? To me they are no different than people who buy fire extinguishers: you buy it because you might have a fire, not because you’re crazy and paranoid.


18 posted on 12/11/2012 3:57:40 PM PST by MeganC (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: Kartographer
Remember how many it takes to keep a secret, folks: One.

I downplay prepping, 'just have a little extra'...

I'm just as concerned about some of the parasitic family members as the zombie hordes. What they don't know won't hurt me.

19 posted on 12/11/2012 4:00:55 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Kartographer

The author’s thesis is that preppers are hated because they make non-preppers question their assumptions about their faith in the system, which makes them uncomfortable. I think that’s true, but I also think that’s incomplete.

Prepper’s are also hated because prepping is an outward sign of self-sufficiency, i.e., an expression of a person’s willingness to give up his stake in the system. The prepper says, “I am prepared for the worst, and as a result, while I don’t wish misfortune on you, I don’t much care whether your system fails.” That scares the bejeezus out of the typical liberal - the noting that strong-willed, independent, productive people are willing to unplug themselves from their system. Prepping is a essentially an expression of the willingness to “go Galt”, and those who depend on others for their existance find that prosepect terrifying.


20 posted on 12/11/2012 4:00:55 PM PST by altsehastiin
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To: Kartographer

If you have been following our preppers’ threads you will find examples of the three types of people that I often warn fellow preppers about, two of the types are the “I’ve got lots of guns and plenty of ammo and I’ll just take what I need.” and the “I don’t prep because I don’t believe anything is going to happen, but if it does preppers should share with me.”

Call many of these people on their post and many will backdown or just not respond in their embarrassment, but many will reply back in righteous anger the same anger that you get from most Libs who are shocked and infuriated by preppers not putting sharing to the forefront. Even though many of us do, just we don’t to the point of endangering our own families.

Now as I said some the “I’ll take what I want crowd” when confronted will often back off saying things like “I was just joking”, but I don’t believe it. When I read their post I can’t help but think of this quote from one of my favorite westerns ’Open Range’: “Most times a man will tell you his bad intentions if you listen, let yourself hear.” I’ve ‘heard’ their intentions and they aren’t good.

The third type that I warn about are those who wish to bring God’s Armageddon into the discussion as if they know that it will be God’s will should some catastrophe befall us. They claim this despite the fact that the history of man is full of direr times which were caused by nature or man himself. History has shown us all too well that men do not need God to help them muck things up to a point were their fellows cry out for God to end it all and relieve them of their misery. Some of these I like to ask: “Do you wear a seatbelt when you drive or ride in a car? Do you have car insurance?” And if they reply yes then I tell them their faith must not be as strong as they claim.

The real problem with the ‘its God’s will’ crowd who will be that many will want to see you punished as they will see your prepping as you trying to dodging God’s punishment. This group along with the “I don’t prep, but you should share” group will be among the first to report you and your ‘hoarding’ to the powers that be in their efforts to make sure you too suffer just as they do. The first group because as I said they see you as trying to escape the rightful wrath of God (as if they know the Lord’s mind) and the second because you proved them wrong.

You can be fairly certain that all three groups will hate you as they will be quick to blame you for the ‘troubles’ because in their twisted way of thinking your prepping brought the ‘troubles’ and therefore you need to be punished for your transgressions.

To these three types I like to add a fourth the have hearted anti-prepper the ones that say well prepping for a couple weeks is OK, but anything beyond that is NUTS. Well if you were a couple of weeks prepper and lived in Sandy’s path I bet you are wishing you was a ‘six month prepper’. Many of these people are still in direr need and there is little to no help forth coming. And this was just a hurricane not a real live SHTF advent. And now six weeks later many of these people are lived just as they did 6 days after. How many of these people wished they had stored more? And the fact is most real major disasters are not 5-7 day events they are weeks and sometimes a couple of months. And a week or two preps is not going to get you though. Yet somehow some people just allow normalcy bias shape their view and not actual facts of what real life shtf is like. It’s not a weekend camping trip it is often a week’s long gulling and frustrating time in which most of the time you are doing without and what you have and what you can get is never as much as you need.


21 posted on 12/11/2012 4:01:03 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

Non religious Jews make fun of religious Jews and scorn them -— because we make them feel bad just by doing what they k ow they should be doing.

You KNOW those grasshoppers probably mocked those ants all summer long.


22 posted on 12/11/2012 4:02:41 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: MeganC

Rod Serling showed what those ‘snarky’ neighbors would do if the SHTF

Twilight Zone - The Shelter

Part One
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuj2yuoC3PY

Part Two
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU7v1Cs-Bc4

Part Three
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSwrIy4IwoU


23 posted on 12/11/2012 4:02:53 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: knarf; JRandomFreeper
"and eat pretty good too."

Especially if Johnny is doing the cooking!
24 posted on 12/11/2012 4:04:05 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer
Also...

The establishment prepper movement does not like any movement that is outside of their control, and the prepper movement establishment is definitely not under their control.

25 posted on 12/11/2012 4:04:15 PM PST by whodathunkit
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To: Kartographer
Back in the 70's and 80's, preppers were known as "survivalists", and were shunned as wacko's then too. Today, we have TV shows like "Doomsday Preppers" to make us look like fools.

Some people never learn....

26 posted on 12/11/2012 4:04:15 PM PST by Sarajevo (Don't think for a minute that this excuse for a President has America's best interest in mind.)
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To: MeganC

“To me they are no different than people who buy fire extinguishers: you buy it because you might have a fire, not because you’re crazy and paranoid”

I have lots of fire extinguishers. I don’t know how many I have because if I did I would have to buy more:)


27 posted on 12/11/2012 4:05:45 PM PST by Cold Heart
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To: Kartographer

They’re demonizing preppers like Stalin demonized the Kulaks, and they want (if not intend) to treat preppers the same way. Which, for those who don’t know, involved seizing and kicking them off their land and then killing them.


28 posted on 12/11/2012 4:07:09 PM PST by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: ctdonath2
Remember the quote “there’s no way to rule innocent men...”? Goes for self-sufficient men too. Can’t manipulate someone you can’t get leverage on.

Exactly. Dependency is where totalitarian political power is derived from. Individual self reliance cannot be allowed to flourish in a brutish nanny state for that state to remain in power. People who embrace the nanny state as their sole provider and security blanket see the self reliant as a threat to their cash cow and nursing sow.

29 posted on 12/11/2012 4:09:45 PM PST by TADSLOS (No need to watch the movie "Idiocracy". We're living it.)
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To: Sarajevo
preppers were known as "survivalists",

And when someone asked if I was a 'survivalist', I always asked what the opposite of a 'survivalist' was? Pretty much gobstopped 'em.

/johnny

30 posted on 12/11/2012 4:09:59 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Kartographer
Have you noticed that it has become trendy to bash preppers? For a long time the prepper movement was ignored, but now it has become so large that it is getting very difficult for the mainstream media to pretend that it is not there.

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It looks like just the opposite to me. For a long time survivalists* were seen as a joke -- or as threatening and menacing. Katrina and Sandy** have brought home to a lot of people just how important it is to be prepared for disaster. Some post-apocalyptic television shows like The Walking Dead and Falling Skies (partially) turn old stereotypes on their head (only partially, but survivalists aren't portrayed as negatively as they were in the past).

_________________

* No, I won't say "preppers."

** Not the hurricanes, two girls I know who are even worse disasters.

31 posted on 12/11/2012 4:09:59 PM PST by x
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To: Kartographer

Even the FEMA website tells us to prepare and gives quite a few suggestions of kits and so forth.

Of course I already knew the government was nuts.


32 posted on 12/11/2012 4:11:50 PM PST by rfreedom4u (I have a copy of the Constitution! And I'm not afraid to use it!)
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To: Migraine; Kartographer
Exactly. A lot of these preppers are anything but. To be a real prepper no one should know about your activities apart from your spouse. Yet I see all these people advertising/boasting how prepared they are, how much food they have, the weaponry they possess, how they have moved from cash assets to gold and other precious metals that are in their possession, etc. Sheer stupidity, and such people do deserve mockery. I was reading the other week about some British chap who has stored enough canned food to last for months on end. He then has pictures of himself, the store with all the food, and the article gives his location. You tell me - if the shtf that place would be raided within the week, and even assuming he had weapons (big assumption since that was the UK, but let's assume he has enough guns to outfit a small revolution) there would simply be too many people for him to overcome. Some people imagine they would be Rambo, or like Heston's character in the Omega Man, but the truth is in real life numbers count (be it to suppress numerous enemies, have working protective shifts, or tackle other dangers like the fires that will be breaking out when the shtf).

Anyways, any person who says the extent of their preparation, and says it either constantly or with a way of being identified, is not a prepper. That person is just a sad soul striving for positive attention and confirmation. Like some nerd trying to show he has the latest Star Wars role playing game.

Real preppers remain largely anonymous, and more importantly do not provide identifying details that can enable people to locate them when things go down. Real preppers realize that the only way to survive will be a medley of two meta-principles: a) preparing in advanced (in all ways, e.g. having a stocked larder but remaining in suburbia, which will be a killzone, is myopic to put it mildly), and b) realizing that prepping in secrecy is mandatory to the plan having any chance of succeeding.

All the 'preppers' in those tv shows and magazine articles are not preppers. They are simply nerds in need of attention, and wholly deserving of any mockery they receive. They are basically a wannabe Paris Hilton, only without the sex tape.

33 posted on 12/11/2012 4:13:50 PM PST by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: Migraine

True, and I am thinking..Maybe being ridiculed by the left on this issue is not so bad. It helps insure that most of them won’t prep.


34 posted on 12/11/2012 4:14:37 PM PST by Quickgun (I came here screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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To: Kartographer
Sheesh. I'm not going to have to worry about zombies when TSHTF, I'm going to have to worry about finding a sober dishwasher when people come streaming in for meals. ;)

/johnny

35 posted on 12/11/2012 4:15:51 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Kartographer; Yaelle

G-d bless the child who’s got his own. That is the bottom line and it isn’t hardly new. I’d rather be hated than dead.


36 posted on 12/11/2012 4:17:22 PM PST by MestaMachine (It's the !!!!TREASON!!!!, stupid!)
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To: spetznaz
To be a real prepper no one should know about your activities apart from your spouse.

That's pretty cowardly to have to hide your activities.

As I said, I'll speak up in the community to encourage others to prepare for disasters. The more that prepare, the less problems I have.

Besides, I'm not sneaking off into the night and letting my community and country go to hell. If it gets me killed, I've got a better home awaiting.

/johnny

37 posted on 12/11/2012 4:20:34 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Kartographer
The comments by the "emergency manager" are telling. She describes the "doomsday preppers" as "selfish", as if their preparations are going to deny food, water, or shelter to others. If this "emergency manager" had any faith that the government really will be able to handle such a disaster, they should be just one less person to worry about and that would mean more for everyone else.

She know's if the SHTF it's going to be a fuster cluck, and those people who were promised and believed that the government wwould take care of the are going to be screwed.

She's afraid of the preppers because they're going to show everyone else just how badly they were lied to.

38 posted on 12/11/2012 4:22:45 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Kartographer

I was one of the original survivalists / preppers. It’s called being born dirt poor in a fairly remote area.

You very quickly learn:

To chew your meat carefully as the lead shot is hard on the teeth.

To bring in enough wood ahead of time as it is a pain to chop and split it in freezing cold weather and snow.

To keep a wash tub of water on top of the wood cook stove all the time. It keeps moisture in the air and you can always dip out hot water as you need it.

Always keep lots of water inside the house as it is a pain to chop through the ice on the spring.

The outhouse seat is always cold. Don’t use the shiny advertising pages.

Groundhog, muskrat, raccoon, and other small animals are really good if you smoke them.

Conibear muskrat traps with field corn on the prongs are the easiest way to catch geese.

It’s not as much about stock piling food as it is about sustainability.

A lime solution in a fishing hole will bring the fish up quickly and you can still eat them.

Learn to temperature check roadkills to determine how long they have been dead prior to picking them up.

Wood gives you two heats. One when you cut it and one when you burn it.

You can clear a whole table in the school cafeteria by pulling a whole smoked squirrel out of your lunch bag and proceed to eat it! People get freaked out when you eat an animal while the head is still on it, even if it is just a fish.

Must admit, it was fun.... Oh, the simple life.

Oh, and the guns sitting against the wall by the door are always loaded.


39 posted on 12/11/2012 4:28:23 PM PST by tired&retired
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To: Kartographer

Liberals hate it when they try to destroy something but it doesn’t work. Preppers are people that will not be hurt as much by liberal actions and they hate that because they want preppers to suffer.


40 posted on 12/11/2012 4:28:56 PM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: Kartographer

We are hated because we are an ongoing rebuke to the unprepared. By our presence and our activities, we frighten the complacent, reminding them of things they’d rather not think about. They want to drift along in contentment, certain that nothing bad will ever happen to them, or that if it does, government will take care of them. By our activity, we prod them and they have to fight back fears that we might be right—Doomsday/Armageddon/hurricanes/tornadoes/floods/fire/famine/insurrection/disease might actually happen.


41 posted on 12/11/2012 4:29:17 PM PST by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare)
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To: Migraine

“If they prepped more and talked less, maybe nobody would notice them — and, isn’t that the idea?

I have a hunch that the best preppers are the ones no one knows about when the SHTF.”

You nailed it.The loud mouths are doing nothing but making themselves a target when the shtf.


42 posted on 12/11/2012 4:30:40 PM PST by Figment
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You’d think Hurricane Sandy would have woken a significant percentage of the population up, but no. The percentage of people who I describe as unreachable is much higher than I ever wanted to admit. It’s scary because the unreachables make it possible for the gov’t to whatever they please. There’s no lie these people aren’t willing to swallow hook, line, sinker, rod and reel.


43 posted on 12/11/2012 4:31:02 PM PST by Hayride
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To: Kartographer

what is a prepper? This is something I never heard up here in the UP of Michigan


44 posted on 12/11/2012 4:31:22 PM PST by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
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To: tired&retired

I work with about 400 horse & buggy Amish & Mennonite families in the area. They are all preppers. Have always been.


45 posted on 12/11/2012 4:32:48 PM PST by tired&retired
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To: Hayride

I think the biggest effect of Sandy is more support for whatever east coast libs think will fix “globull warming”.

I saw a YT vid made by a college girl where she was driving thru the flood zone and she says “we have to stop global warming, we learned in high school this was going to happen”.


46 posted on 12/11/2012 4:35:21 PM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: hondact200
'Preppers' are those that pepare to survive and thrive, regardless of what tornadoes, hurricanes, floods, earthquakes, [insert your local disaster risk], throws at them.

It's called living life and being prudent and conservative.

/johnny

47 posted on 12/11/2012 4:36:07 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Kartographer
Time to use their Alinsky tactics right back at them.

If any prepper is disparaged, they should just point out that if they are radical the US Government must be crazy, because they have all kinds of preps - their underground bunkers and doomsday continuity of Government plans not to mention all the Urban Disaster Military Law Practice going on.

Also, as a believer in the US Government it is every citizen's duty to follow all the FEMA/Red Cross guidelines doncha know(tongue in cheek).

It is neither stupid nor crazy to buy items on sale to stock up on foods you use all the time - that's called wise money management and people who don't are either stupid, apathetic, too busy with their egocentric lives, or have so much money they don't care.

People who don't prep are selfish, and not concerned with their community. Every one who preps is one less person that the community will have to support. They will be so well prepared, that they will have to time and resources to help others in the community when disater strikes.

They won't need to be rescued - they will be prepared to do the rescuing..

Prepper conclusion to critic: Put that in your pipe and smoke it! LOL

48 posted on 12/11/2012 4:38:17 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: skeeter

our president & congresspeople, who will enjoy top drawer accomodations should the SHTF?

They won’t for long....betcha.


49 posted on 12/11/2012 4:38:24 PM PST by Adder (No, Mr. Franklin, we could NOT keep it.)
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To: Kartographer

Preppers follow the principle of subsidiarity, not communitarianism. We take care of ourselves our families and friends in that order. The Left hates self sufficiency and seeks to destroy self interest, the family, and the social and religious organizations that arise out of individuals exercising their free choice of association. The Left promotes communitarianism which is just another form of statism and totalitarianism that views people as masses to be controlled by an omnipotent central government.


50 posted on 12/11/2012 4:40:33 PM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; zero sera dans l'enfer bientot)
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