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Things that don't add up... (CT shooting)

Posted on 12/14/2012 11:24:47 PM PST by djf

Now I've been watching this news for most of the day. Remarkably, it seems to change every few minutes.

First, we had the name change. Who exactly did the shooting? Ryan? Adam? Someone else?

Then, we hear that someone in camo garb or something was apprehended in the woods. When I first heard this, I assumed it was the brother and that was why there was confusion about the name.

But turns out that the brother was actually at work - and was not in the woods. So who was in the woods?

We hear that the mother is a teacher at the school. Then we hear that she was actually a teachers assistant. Then I see a brief interview with someone who DOES work at the school and who says "Nobody here every heard of her."

Then, tonight, she is reported as being unemployed.

First, the guns (which we have YET to get a clear description of the types and calibers) were stolen from the mother. Then, they were "legally purchased"... but no indication when or from where. Latest, a brief statement that they were "legally purchased with a license provided by a family member"... Now I'm not trying to label anybody here, but it sounds a little out of character that some suburban mom in small-town New England would have that many guns.

Huh?

The ONLY picture we have seen of this guy so far is an out-of-focus pic taken in 2005! 2005? He didn't have a drivers license? A girlfriend? I can't see how he might get a gun without some sort of valid photo id.

Last I heard, only three of the children made it to the hospital. If so, this would be a stunning percentage kill-ratio wise for the guy. In fact in most public shootings, the vast majority are wounded, but not killed. Did this guy have some kind of training?

Too many loose ends. The story keeps changing.

Am I the only one who is having trouble thinking that this was just some whacko dude who blew a fuse and started shooting?


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Conspiracy; Society
KEYWORDS: guncontrol; sandyhookquestions; sandyhookshooting; secondamendment; vanity
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To: Errant

Exactly. Evil persists because it was made law and we have been seeing the results since 2001 in every area!

Now one more from evil is same sex marriage and people voted for it.

Their tears are bogus - for show (deception) - they are surface and it does not come from the heart!

Don’t tell a parent or anyone else that less they are offended. Another LAW! Truth is Hate speech with a PC cover. How many times do we have someone post - that is racist - they are agreeing with evil without having the insight to know it. Just like those who declare obama is the messiah or king - again agreeing with evil without the insight to know it. Instead of condemning evil - their wanting to be a joker takes precedence with them. Agreeing with evil in any way has it’s consequences. The ‘can’t you take a joke’ and ‘lightener up’ mantra is just another way.


241 posted on 12/15/2012 1:11:25 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Blackirish; All

Was she behind the shooting? I think her fully capable of it, but I don’t know. These people are monsters, who loathe this country and its citizens. They want revenge, remember?

The shooter had two pistols, with a rifle in the trunk of the car. But now, we hear, courtesy of Reuters, that “(a)ll the shootings he was aware of were committed with a rifle, Carver said.

The dead included eight boys, 12 girls, and six women aged 27 to 56, authorities said.”

“All the wounds that I know of at this point were caused by the long weapon,” Carver said.

So, we are to think that the shooter shot children in a room with a rifle only? BS. You watch. This ‘rifle’ will become automatic weapon soon, the ‘assault rifle’ meme cropping up in 3-2-1...

The Left has to have our guns prior to their night of the long knives. Ayres still needs his 25% of Americans dead, and Agenda 21 just starts there.


242 posted on 12/15/2012 3:15:32 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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I forgot to mention that this ‘Carver’ fellow is the CT state medical examiner.

It begins.


243 posted on 12/15/2012 3:17:09 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: 21twelve

“I don’t believe for a moment that this is some government conspiracy -”

Agreed, I think the “conspiracy” is to use every mass murder as leverage to disarm the innocent.

We need to be prepared for this at every turn.

Murders will always happen. The question is, will the innocent be able to defend themselves or just have to be sitting ducks like the poor kids in Connecticut on Friday.


244 posted on 12/15/2012 3:18:24 PM PST by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: combat_boots
Oh. Alive? Really. Do Adam and his brother have the same father?

Ooh, crap. Got caught in an assumption! Well done, sir!

245 posted on 12/15/2012 6:05:27 PM PST by Teacher317 ('Tis time to fear when tyrants seem to kiss.)
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To: bgill

Police scanner of an arrest at the school:

http://youtu.be/p_ODW4JG9y8


246 posted on 12/15/2012 9:42:12 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: MinuteGal
From my friend Beverly Perlson:

After the shooting in Arizona, I had hoped Obama would take the fear and heartache this nation felt and use it to teach the nation that troubled people do not just get up one day and decide to shoot people. There are signs, always, and most times they begin at an early age. Mothers know these signs when they see them in their own children.

I remember in the Arizona shooting, students and instructors who had come in contact with Jared Loughtner, the shooter, had felt fear around him. In fact, eventually Loughtner was forbidden at the school, thanks to one of the instructors who acknowledged his feelings of fear and reported them.

I am so deeply sorry for the families who have lost children and loved ones in this horrific tragedy. I pray for them. I hope and pray in the days and the weeks to come, we don't focus on the gun used in this horrific act but the troubled person behind it who I am certain gave signs to those around him that he could hurt someone.

I ran a day treatment for the mentally ill for 7 years and trust me when I tell you this, this feeling you get when you know someone is truly dangerous goes to the very core of your being and your feelings unsettle you to the point that they keep you awake at night. You feel “terrorized”’ and we need to learn to recognize that feeling and report it! Also, in all those 7 years I only had one client like I describe here and because the mother nor the main center where I worked refused to listen to me or the psychiatrist, the ending was horrific and an innocent girl was killed.

Beverly Perlson
The Band of Mothers

247 posted on 12/15/2012 9:57:58 PM PST by seekthetruth (I want a Commander In Chief who honors and supports our Military!)
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To: Uncle Chip; combat_boots

Yes, the bozo coroner said all was done with a “long” gun and he repeated “long” but the reports were that the rifle was in the trunk of the mother’s car out in the parking lot and the guy only had two hand guns. It was after the coroner spoke that suddenly the story changed to the gunman also had two rifles of some sort on him. Did the story change to cover the bozo coroner or did every reporter have it wrong before? I don’t remember what the LE spokesperson said about the guns yesterday. Be it known that if I ever found out that coroner was examining my near and dear, I would be yanking the body off the table.

It was reported by several reporters that there was a handcuffed man who was led past everyone who was saying it wasn’t him and he didn’t do it. Later, we hear and see the pages of the brother’s FB where he says the exact same thing as the handcuffed man.

Now, on Uncle’s video link, the young boy says there was a handcuffed man on the ground at the fire station. Ok, let’s say this is just one handcuffed man and the police eventually cleared him but odd how the talking heads never followed through.

Also on the video, the police tape says a teacher reported she had seen two shadows go past the window (maybe those kids who escaped and not the gunman?) and seconds later the cop excitedly says “they’re” coming at him and they have “them.” So, who is “them”? Which brings me to the other video of the cops chasing someone/something in the woods which the comments section say is a deer. I didn’t see a deer but then the video was bad. Could the deer be the “them”? Are the deer in CT so tame that they just sit there and let police plow through the woods hollering and surround them before high tailing it outta there??? Must be a hunters’ paradise if that’s the case. Or maybe I need to invest in more tin foil.

Also, CBS stated the mother was worried about the coming economic collapse and needed protection so that was why she had a gun collection. IOW, they’ll soon be spinning her to be a wacky doomsday prepper. Never mind that friends said the sons were taught to shoot and that the oldest son had estranged himself from the younger brother for years which means the family had the guns for many years before the current worries over the economy. Hussein will use this to go after the 2nd. Follow that up with that leftist emergency management woman stating doomsday preppers are selfish andshould share, well, he’s going to go after preppers as well.


248 posted on 12/16/2012 12:13:44 AM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: bgill

Video and more here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2969210/posts


249 posted on 12/16/2012 6:07:25 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: bgill; Uncle Chip

The LIBOR case. AGAIN.

Why am I not surprised?

See Holmes’ father...

John Roll’s ruling against 0bama, just 72 hours prior to his assassination, about preventing seizure of US citizens’ funds, including IRAs and so forth.

Let’s go way back to another watershed moment (as an example):
The elimination of silver certificate issuance,s 5 months after JFK’s death, too. See john-f-kennedy.net as an example for quite a tale.


250 posted on 12/16/2012 9:27:38 AM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: combat_boots

Soros’ finger prints are all over Libor and he and his puppet hussein are doing everything to take down America but I’m waiting for hard proof this father was on the witness list. The Clintons are pussycats compared to these evil doers.


251 posted on 12/16/2012 10:32:19 AM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: bgill

See minute 4:18 here for a very different picture of Adam Lanza: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=j_fI0hm1dqY. I believe we are being given the ‘Benghazi occurred because of a video’ explanation of these crimes.


252 posted on 12/16/2012 12:09:13 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: combat_boots

I saw that earlier. Big change there, huh. Steroids or munchies?

Maybe it’s the fog of war or the msm being their stupid selves with so much conflicting reports. Whatever, it’s certainly not fitting together very well.


253 posted on 12/16/2012 12:48:53 PM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: bgill

Well, that image is very different than the image of the wide-eyed, skinny nut we’re seeing. The younger mop-haired kid is ok, since kids are supposed to look like kids.

I’d like to see the images of the Lanza boys lined up, one after another. The chunky kid version looks like he’s related to Ryan. The skinny pic of Adam doesn’t.


254 posted on 12/16/2012 12:53:17 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Reuters today:

Police said Lanza was armed with hundreds of bullets in high-capacity magazines of about 30 rounds each for the Bushmaster AR 15 rifle and two handguns he carried into the school, and had a fourth weapon, a shotgun, in his car outside.


255 posted on 12/17/2012 7:19:03 AM PST by Arlis (.)
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To: Big Mack

See my reply to SwampSniper...


256 posted on 12/17/2012 7:20:05 AM PST by Arlis (.)
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To: Arlis

bttt


257 posted on 12/17/2012 6:40:22 PM PST by Guenevere (....)
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To: djf

Yeh, this guy’s saying the same....
;)

http://newtomorrow.us/ctshooting.html

Semper Watching!
*****


258 posted on 12/18/2012 6:28:21 AM PST by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: Arlis

Reuters is so truthful.

And the US gov’t agencies are buying millions of hollow points for no reason, along with dried food, but that’s not prepping for anything.


259 posted on 12/18/2012 6:46:59 AM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: combat_boots

“Reuters is so truthful.”

I meant to mention that, but was in a hurry......only MSNBC could be a worse source......or the DU.....

Like someone says - who knows? They are all over the place. BUT, more and more are reporting that the .223 did go with him in the school, and it was a shotgun left in the car.

Who knows? Not me.....


260 posted on 12/18/2012 6:57:09 AM PST by Arlis (.)
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