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Itís Time To Repeal The 2nd Amendment
"Homebrewed Theology" ^ | December 14, 2012

Posted on 12/15/2012 8:54:23 AM PST by Republican Wildcat

It’s time to face the facts. The 2nd Amendment to the US Constitution has both outlived it’s usefulness and been perverted far beyond its original intent.

Based on the English Bill of Rights (1869), as the US Supreme Court has said, the English law was to reinstate Protestant‘s rights to have arms after being disarmed by James II. The American cousin was no doubt influenced by both the English law and the conditions of occupation by the British military leading up to the American Revolution.

The intent of the law was to prevent the government from militarily taking over the nation. This was back in the days where the citizenry and the government had access to pretty much the same weaponry.

In 2012, well, let’s just say that your personal arsenal wouldn’t be much of a match for Marines with BDMs or a Naval Carrier Group with fully loaded warplanes.

Additionally, since the Civil War, there really hasn’t been much in the way of a tyrannical government to fear. Sure RWNJs and Tea Partiers like to claim that this (or really any Democratic administration in the last 50 years) are putting the US on the road to tyranny, you and I both know they’re full of s**t.

Today, in Newtown, Connecticut, was the 36th mass school shooting since Columbine in 1996. That’s 2.5x the number of school shootings during the same period in the rest of the world combined. The dots on the map at the top of the page represent every mass shooting incident in the US since 2005.

After every single one, the cycle goes:

1. Shock. 2. Now is not the time 3. Police investigations. 4. Questions about “is now the time?” shouted down 5. Half hearted follow up stories 6. Distraction and everyone forgets.

Lather.

Rinse.

Repeat.

It was said after Columbine.

It was said after Virginia Tech.

It was said after Gabby Giffords, a sitting member of Congress, was shot in the head.

It was said after Aurora.

It’s being said now.

Bob Costas was pilloried by RWNJs for daring to bring up America’s obsessive gun culture during halftime of a Monday Night Football game. They weren’t upset because he was right that Jovan Belcher and Kassandra Perkins would probably still be alive if there weren’t firearms in the house.

No. They were upset that he dared say anything at all.

To some people, it’s never the time to talk about gun violence.

The very first mass shooting incident I can remember was the McDonald’s massacre in San Ysidro, California back in 1984.

A man named James Huberty walked into a McDonald’s and opened fire, killing 21 people (including 5 children) and wounding 19 others. It would become a scene, and a story, repeated far too often over the next 28 years.

You see, Huberty was a survivalist who:

“…saw signs of what he thought was growing trouble in America, and believed that government regulations were the cause of business failures, including his own. He believed that international bankers were purposefully manipulating the Federal Reserve System and bankrupting the nation. Convinced that Soviet aggression was everywhere, he believed that the breakdown of society was near, perhaps through economic collapse or nuclear war. He committed himself to prepare to survive this coming collapse and, while in Canton, provisioned his house with thousands of dollars of non-perishable food and six guns that he intended to use to defend his home during what he believed was the coming chaos.”

Sound familiar?

That’s common talk nowadays on Right Wing Nut Job radio and the underlying theme of just about every NRA political flyer.

The power and money of the National Rifle Association have managed to pervert the 2nd Amendment into essentially a firearms free-for-all, where any regulation is vigorously opposed. They whip up their lemmings into a frenzy of fear that some all powerful government entity, national or international, is going to go door to door confiscating all their firearms.

This has led to toothless gun laws with meaningless penalties and a firearm homicide rate per 100,000 people that is higher than the West Bank and Gaza and nearly 4 times higher than the next industrialized nation.

Therefore it is time.

It is time to repeal the 2nd Amendment to the US Constitution and start over.

It is time for strict licensing with mandatory training classes, liability insurance and licenses that must be renewed on regular basis.

It is time for firearm registration with 14 day waiting periods and thorough background checks.

It is time to limit, as the UK does, the maximum caliber of weapons the public can own along with the firearm’s capacity.

It is time, as Norway does, to require the purchaser to have a valid reason to own a gun.

To own a gun in Norway, one must document a use for the gun. By far the most common grounds for civilian ownership are hunting and sports shooting, in that order. Other needs can include special guard duties or self defence, but the first is rare unless the person shows identification confirming that he or she is a trained guard or member of a law-enforcement agency and the second is practically never accepted as a reason for gun ownership.

It is time, as in Norway, for mandatory gun safes and to allow law enforcement to inspect homes for compliance.

The proper response to a tragedy, like the one today, is not to do nothing, but to work and put laws in place to prevent this sort of thing from happening again.

I will be perfectly honest… I’m done hearing the pro-gun arguments.

I’m done hearing the “responsible gun owner” argument. The weapons used in Columbine, Aurora, Kansas City, Clackamas, and Newtown were all legally purchased.

I’m done hearing the ridiculous comparisons to swimming pools and car accident fatalities.

I’m done hearing the “if you outlaw guns only outlaws will have guns” mindless pablum.

20 children, all between the ages of 5 and 10, were killed today in one school, in one city, with legally purchased firearms in the United States.

The time to talk about gun violence was yesterday, is today, and will be tomorrow.

Saying it isn’t time and doing nothing means those 20 children will have died in vain.

http://homebrewedtheology.com/its-time-to-repeal-the-2nd-amendment.php - original article, where comments can also be added in response


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Of course I certainly don't agree with this...but this is an example of what is now going viral on the left and that is why I have posted it. Responses are needed to this sort of thing - thoughtful, yet to the point. We can no longer assume people understand the basics anymore and they have to be thoroughly explained.
1 posted on 12/15/2012 8:54:29 AM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Republican Wildcat

2 posted on 12/15/2012 8:56:01 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Republican Wildcat

I think its time to imprison all conservatives by severing roads in and out of cities and putting walls around them to keep us in flyover country.

That’ll learn us.


3 posted on 12/15/2012 8:57:21 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Republican Wildcat

Today, most folks are “visual learners.” Great essays are fine, but more people are reached with images and videos today. I created the above poster in 1/2 hour on MS Paint using Google Images. Please copy and share “message” images with your liberal or mushy moderate friends.


4 posted on 12/15/2012 8:57:34 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Republican Wildcat
Sorry.. I don't do thoughtful..

Hot damn!

“We’re going to have to come together and take meaningful action to prevent more tragedies like this, regardless of the politics.” President Obama.

Gun control advocates celebrate..

see immediate nationwide confiscation of guns from law-abiding citizens.. criminals later (if it's not too difficult).

Speaking about gun owners

Hot damn! We got 'em on the lam!

they cheered repeatedly.

5 posted on 12/15/2012 8:58:30 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Republican Wildcat

How many are they prepared to kill to take our guns away? Didn’t Bill Ayers suggest something like 25,000,000 to fully transform society?


6 posted on 12/15/2012 8:58:54 AM PST by Truth29
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To: Republican Wildcat

Read somewhere that in Mexico they only have ONE store where you can purchase guns, and that store is government owned. However, all the cartels and criminals are well armed, backing up the theory that if guns are outlawed, only outlaws have guns. Let’s hope the majority of Americans NEVER permit our right to bear arms.


7 posted on 12/15/2012 8:59:24 AM PST by kiltie65
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To: Republican Wildcat

Read somewhere that in Mexico they only have ONE store where you can purchase guns, and that store is government owned. However, all the cartels and criminals are well armed, backing up the theory that if guns are outlawed, only outlaws have guns. Let’s hope the majority of Americans NEVER permit our right to bear arms be removed.


8 posted on 12/15/2012 8:59:53 AM PST by kiltie65
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To: Travis McGee

There will always be something....

In the caveman days this logic would have outlawed sticks and rocks.


9 posted on 12/15/2012 9:00:50 AM PST by mike_9958
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To: Republican Wildcat

RW, the following is not directed to you, but rather to the author of this pathetic-ness.

1. FAH-Q

2. MOLON LABE

That’s all...


10 posted on 12/15/2012 9:01:46 AM PST by Old Sarge (We are officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet...)
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To: Republican Wildcat

well, lots to address in the homebrew rant...a lot of guns are gonna be “lost” and NOT turned in as folks realize that the 2nd amendment will be revoked. Even with all the best of intentions, evil will find a way to hurt, maim, torture, kill. We can put into place ridiculous numbers of laws to prevent crime, but evil is evil and it walks the earth. Only God can ultimately end the evil that boldly grows each day.


11 posted on 12/15/2012 9:01:52 AM PST by sassy steel magnolia
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To: Republican Wildcat

This is the PROPER WAY for gun control supporters take our guns...as opposed to Executive Orders. All they have to do is get 2/3’s of the House and Senate and 3/4’s of the states to go along...which won’t happen.

But I respect them for at least trying to play by the rules.


12 posted on 12/15/2012 9:02:27 AM PST by BobL (Did you know that the Chinese now buy close to twice as many new cars as Americans each year?)
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To: Republican Wildcat

I am done hearing about the anti-gun arguments. My way of life is not compatible with this monster’s way of life. I am tired of him and his crowd of low intelligence fools creating a culture of disregard for life and spewing hate at everyone who tries to live with the slightest trace of decency.

I have one word for him and his insufferable cohort-— GO!


13 posted on 12/15/2012 9:02:27 AM PST by iacovatx (Conservatism is the political center--it is not "right" of center)
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To: Republican Wildcat

Feel free to give up your Second Amendment Rights, hose nose. And put a big sign out in your front yard to let the world know that your house is a gun-free zone.


14 posted on 12/15/2012 9:03:00 AM PST by windsorknot
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To: Republican Wildcat

We are all criminals (of the State) now ...


15 posted on 12/15/2012 9:05:15 AM PST by SecondAmendment (Restoring our Republic at 9.8357x10^8 FPS)
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To: Republican Wildcat

With guns we are citizens, without them we are subjects.


16 posted on 12/15/2012 9:06:32 AM PST by Samurai_Jack (ride out and confront the evil!)
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To: Travis McGee

About those laws in Norway ...

http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/19/tech/gaming-gadgets/games-violence-norway-react/index.html


17 posted on 12/15/2012 9:06:57 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Republican Wildcat

The amendments in the Bill of Rights are inalienable and cannot be taken away. These were created to prevent tyranny and protect our individual rights to liberty. Take away the 2nd and you will have open revolt.


18 posted on 12/15/2012 9:07:22 AM PST by DownInFlames
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To: Republican Wildcat

...and don’t worry about guns. The Dems have MUCH BIGGER fish to fry. They are SALIVATING at taking the House in 2014 and finishing off this country - especially with the Republicans looking like a BUNCH OF IDIOTs in the budget talks. They are not about to walk the plank (again) on gun control.

Aside from a few whackos in safe House districts, in a week it will be like this never happened. The best they can hope for is some EOs out of Obama, and I’m not even sure if he wants to risk that. The Dems will quickly send their orders out to the media to drop it...and “what shooting” will be the response by Christmas.


19 posted on 12/15/2012 9:08:03 AM PST by BobL (Did you know that the Chinese now buy close to twice as many new cars as Americans each year?)
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To: Travis McGee

The Homebrewedtheology article is filled with way more incorrect and false premises than I care to address. But, I will address one; his comment about the general citizenry being no match for trained Marines, etc. I would say to that - our military is philosophically conservative. So, it’s not a given that they would be willing to fire on their brothers, sisters, parents, etc, etc. consequently, when Obama gave the (I’m paraphrasing) “we can no longer count on our military, we need our own, just as strong, etc ~ “ he was and is aware of this. So, it would be interesting to see how this would unfold for sure.


20 posted on 12/15/2012 9:09:02 AM PST by snoringbear (Government is the Pimp,)
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To: Republican Wildcat

Not to change the subject from the horrible tragedy at Sandy Hook, but where is the outrage and sadness on a daily basis for all the souls that are mercilessly aborted as babies ?

Our culture can not be “fixed” by gun laws. That would be like putting a band-aid over an amputation.


21 posted on 12/15/2012 9:09:59 AM PST by mike_9958
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To: Republican Wildcat

it is tme to repeal the politicians who have destroyed our society with their insane laws and government god.

I am done with these people.


22 posted on 12/15/2012 9:09:59 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Republican Wildcat
Humanist totalitarianism on parade. It is definitiely homebrewed, and it may be theology, but it not MY theology.

Ad hominem attacks with "time to cut through the bullshit" assumptions of authority are pretty hard to stuff back in the can. "It is time...", "I'm done..." and the other lame-assed repetitive bullet (!) points are the words of someone not interested in anyone else's opinions or indeed of any contrary facts (IOW, it sounds like an Obama speech). The sheep seem to like that crap, so I'm not sure what can be done.

My consolation is that we are entering an age when people like the author will either have the statist ("democratic," if you prefer) "people's boot" on his/her face, or be one of the boot wearers.

23 posted on 12/15/2012 9:11:23 AM PST by niteowl77 (Oh, crap.)
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To: Travis McGee

The mainstream media causes these shootings.

These idiots or psychos seek the fame the media will give them. the media are pure evil.

So now every person in America ( the world ) will know this moron’s name , his whole life story . Who cares ? I know why he did it : the media. This phenomenon didn’t happen in the many decades when the media hadn’t glorified shooters.

We shouldn’t give these psychos what they seek which is attention and fame. I REALLY don’t care what this pos is or what it did whatever and we fall into the media trap by talking about this thing etc. I just post that the media caused this to open people’s eyes.

These psycho’s are the media’s heros. they use them to take away our guns, our rights, and empower government. The media are democrats/socialists whose main goal it to empower government and to take away power from the individual. the media are pure evil.


24 posted on 12/15/2012 9:11:55 AM PST by Democrat_media (limit government to 5000 words of laws. how to limit gov Quantify limited government ...)
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To: Samurai_Jack
Correct! The difference between a slave and master is that the slave cannot own a weapon.

But, the facts of the matter is, knowing this, the majority of those who voted in 2008 and 2012 said, via their votes, that they preferred being slaves than being free.

That, my FRiend is where we are at this point in time.

25 posted on 12/15/2012 9:11:55 AM PST by sport
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To: Republican Wildcat

Boy those tough gun Laws really help in Norway! Didn’t they stop a Psycho from going on a rampage? Oh no thats right he set of a bomb then went to a childrens camp and killed more than 60 kids!!

If Trained armed citizens were around Maybe fewer of these attacks would happen and if they did multiple people wouldn’t have to die because they are unarmed! Meanwhile our own Gov’t is busy arming Mexican Drug Cartels and AL Queda associates.


26 posted on 12/15/2012 9:12:12 AM PST by jakerobins
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To: Republican Wildcat

It’s part of the new State Religion - Oh, State, protect us and save us.

These people are mentally ill - they have no soul.

They couldn’t wait to drag their crap into this tragedy.


27 posted on 12/15/2012 9:12:40 AM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: Republican Wildcat
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28 posted on 12/15/2012 9:13:06 AM PST by baddog 219
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To: DownInFlames

The rights codified in the Bill of Rights are God-given, and the rights will exist whether they are written down or not.

TC


29 posted on 12/15/2012 9:13:06 AM PST by Pentagon Leatherneck
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To: Republican Wildcat

Talk’s cheap. Action will be costly.


30 posted on 12/15/2012 9:13:06 AM PST by TADSLOS (No need to watch the movie "Idiocracy". We're living it.)
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To: Republican Wildcat
Well they did it for alcohol. Since Prohibition sure worked so good, now they're going to do it with firearms.
31 posted on 12/15/2012 9:14:26 AM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: Republican Wildcat
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32 posted on 12/15/2012 9:14:32 AM PST by baddog 219
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To: cripplecreek

Excellent idea, make sure that all liberals are safely inside the cities and only those who want to live among us crazies are outside, then cutoff all entry and exit points so we nutcases cannot get into the cities and their children cannot wander out into the countryside and be exposed to us nutcases. That will protect them from us and we won’t have to feel guilty about ruining their lives. I’m all for it.


33 posted on 12/15/2012 9:14:54 AM PST by RipSawyer (I was born on Earth, what planet is this?)
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To: Truth29

As many as resist them.


34 posted on 12/15/2012 9:14:54 AM PST by sport
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To: Republican Wildcat

I looked at this guy’s blog. More leftists drivel like being against Israel and indirectly for abortion.


35 posted on 12/15/2012 9:15:06 AM PST by CORedneck
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To: Republican Wildcat

Left? Life, Faith and good beer?

The fact is, the loons are popping out of the woodwork all over.

More stringent sorting is needed, I think.


36 posted on 12/15/2012 9:17:27 AM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: mike_9958

>>”Our culture can not be “fixed” by gun laws.”

Sure it can... FIXED LIKE THE CAT!!

When all the political opposition is eliminated, all there is left to do is clean up the illegal activity.

The real purpose here is not to stop the rampages. They provide cover for the goal - disarm possible opposition to the coming occupation by treasonous statists.

They are just following Hitler’s plan.


37 posted on 12/15/2012 9:18:40 AM PST by Only1choice____Freedom (As long as America's tolerence of failure is not overwhelmed by a desire to succeed, we will fail.)
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To: Republican Wildcat
Additionally, since the Civil War, there really hasn’t been much in the way of a tyrannical government to fear

the federal government is the most tyrannical it's ever been in its history. The author is just too blind to see it because it's tyranny for HIS belief system.

38 posted on 12/15/2012 9:21:21 AM PST by jtal (Runnin' a World in Need with White Folks' Greed - since 1492)
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To: Truth29

The one world government types think that the earth can sustain 500 million people. That is why the support abortion. To cull babies and the population. If the one worlders get control soon, you can count on them trying these things. Of course, God has said that the last 7 years of earth’s history, under antichrist, will cull the earth by billions. But, the one worlders want a quicker start.


39 posted on 12/15/2012 9:25:26 AM PST by RetiredArmy (1 Cor 15: 50-54 & 1 Thess 4: 13-17. That about covers it.)
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To: smokingfrog

The video game argument is as pointless as the anti gun argument if we aren’t going to address it in the context of the wider society.

Even without games and movies our schools are still teaching that reality is a subjective concept. Follow that up with “parents” who will sit right there and allow a 6 year old play those games and you have a recipe for trouble.


40 posted on 12/15/2012 9:25:47 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Republican Wildcat

“In 2012, well, let’s just say that your personal arsenal wouldn’t be much of a match for Marines with BDMs or a Naval Carrier Group with fully loaded warplanes.”

I had a high-decibel “discussion” like this with a member of the US Armed Forces. Basically I told him:

1) You have to get out of the tank to take a dump sometime, and:

2) You got family ?


41 posted on 12/15/2012 9:26:35 AM PST by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: Republican Wildcat
Disarm the feral government and we can talk.

Until then, stick it where the sun don't shine.

42 posted on 12/15/2012 9:26:45 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the state." - Cornelius Tacitus, Roman Senator)
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To: RipSawyer

Mexico will need to be protected from us as well so we’re going to need a wall there too.


43 posted on 12/15/2012 9:27:57 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Republican Wildcat

SOme of these people are so sick. Dancing on the graves of the dead to get there agenda done.


44 posted on 12/15/2012 9:28:38 AM PST by Duckdog (If it wasn't for NASCAR my TV would have gone out the window years ago!)
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To: Travis McGee

The 2A exists to make sure the 2a is not repealed.


45 posted on 12/15/2012 9:30:10 AM PST by omega4179 ( el 0bama comio un perro)
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To: Republican Wildcat
In 2012, well, let’s just say that your personal arsenal wouldn’t be much of a match for Marines with BDMs or a Naval Carrier Group with fully loaded warplanes.

And we all know how well that worked out against the North Vietnamese, Al Qaeda and the Taliban don't we Skippy?

This guy is FOS and clueless about warfare. He'll make a great slave to a communist government someday.

46 posted on 12/15/2012 9:30:46 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (It's not about the guns. It's about the control.)
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To: All

The counterpoint is fairly obvious, get Hollywood liberals to see if they could perhaps maintain their lifestyles without selling so much gun violence in movies, television shows and what is ironically called “home entertainment” but is actually a sort of home schooling program for gun violence. Also get Hollywood conservatives (both of them) to look at this.


47 posted on 12/15/2012 9:31:37 AM PST by Peter ODonnell (It wasn't this cold before global warming)
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To: Republican Wildcat
Additionally, since the Civil War, there really hasn’t been much in the way of a tyrannical government to fear.

Coudln't stomach anymore of this garbage after reading that.

48 posted on 12/15/2012 9:32:30 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: Republican Wildcat

only problem is, just like drugs, when the evil in people desires something badly, it will find a black market to obtain them! Daaaa!


49 posted on 12/15/2012 9:34:14 AM PST by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
Hot damn!

“We’re going to have to come together and take meaningful action to prevent more tragedies like this, regardless of the politics.” President Obama.

Gun control advocates celebrate..


Rahm Emanuel Says Never Let A Good Crisis Go To Waste .
13 sec video
50 posted on 12/15/2012 9:34:22 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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