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Fox: Obama rejects Boehner's "Plan B," says he's "compromised enough"
Fox News Channel (no link) | 12/19/12

Posted on 12/19/2012 8:39:16 AM PST by pabianice

Pretty much says it all. Further announcements scheduled for later today.


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1 posted on 12/19/2012 8:39:21 AM PST by pabianice
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To: pabianice

Bang the gavel Boehner. Adjourn and send your members home. obama owns the economy and the fiscal cliff and all it’s consequences. Just go home.


2 posted on 12/19/2012 8:42:12 AM PST by pgkdan (We are witnessing the modern sack of Rome. The barbarians have taken over.)
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To: pabianice

How is stating you are unwilling to compromise,compromise?


3 posted on 12/19/2012 8:42:26 AM PST by marstegreg
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To: pabianice

Pass it, ship it over to Harry and send everyone home for the holidays.


4 posted on 12/19/2012 8:43:15 AM PST by technically right
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To: pgkdan

Nah, Boehner will find a way to hang it around the GOP’s neck instead. After all, he wants to liked by his democrat buddies.


5 posted on 12/19/2012 8:43:36 AM PST by txnativegop (Fed up with zealots)
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To: pabianice

Obama’s union handlers won’t accept anything less than higher taxes funneled directly to them.


6 posted on 12/19/2012 8:43:59 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: pabianice
Let the Democrats write a bill and let it be passed with all Republicans voting "present."

Let Ubama and the Democrats own it.

7 posted on 12/19/2012 8:44:34 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the state." - Cornelius Tacitus, Roman Senator)
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To: pabianice
Does Plan B include dividend taxes, estate taxes, etc.

I'm assuming this is just the income tax rate stuff...just an emergency measure in case The Won can't get his stuff together to make a larger deal.

8 posted on 12/19/2012 8:45:20 AM PST by what's up
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To: pabianice

Be very careful...fiscal cliff is exactly what Obama wants.


9 posted on 12/19/2012 8:46:33 AM PST by sanjuanbob
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To: txnativegop

Obama and Boehner both need to realize that Obama is holds one position in government. He was reelected in 2012 but 435 House members were also reelected and they were elected as well.

Those 435 people were put in office to represent their constituents. Someone needs to remind the Dicktator.


10 posted on 12/19/2012 8:46:48 AM PST by No Socialist
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To: txnativegop

He’s looking for more ways to compromise and capitulate rather than being hung with the “repubs fault” we drove over the cliff. Hey, maybe he could throw in some verbiage about banning high capacity magazines for people making less than 100k per year. (is that magazines over 100 pages?)

Share the lead.


11 posted on 12/19/2012 8:47:24 AM PST by rktman
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To: pabianice; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; Impy; stephenjohnbanker; NFHale; ...

This is why the bill Bohner is passing is important : extending rates for below $1M.

That allows him (B) to point out that now O is rejecting tax cut extensions for 99.9% of voters until he gets increases in the debt limit(without spending cuts) , meaning he is holding our taxes hostage, instead of Republicans falling into that trap.

That is how you play the game O usually wins at.


12 posted on 12/19/2012 8:48:21 AM PST by sickoflibs (Dems know how to win. Rs know how to whine.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Let the Democrats write a bill and let it be passed with all Republicans voting "present." Let Ubama and the Democrats own it.

No, my family and myself should not suffer to make a political point. That is pure evil.

13 posted on 12/19/2012 8:48:37 AM PST by frogjerk (Obama Claus is coming to town!)
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To: txnativegop
Boehner will find a way to hang it around the GOP’s neck instead.

Screw it.
That's going to happen no matter what the hapless Boehner does or says.

I agree with telling Barry, "OK, Merry Christmas!" and then just turn out the lights.

14 posted on 12/19/2012 8:48:53 AM PST by grobdriver
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To: No Socialist

The gutless old party SHOULD be screaming every day about how many days it’s been since America had a BUDGET.


15 posted on 12/19/2012 8:50:28 AM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: pabianice

Hey, Boehner, How is this all working for you? Keep banging your head against the wall until it stops hurting.


16 posted on 12/19/2012 8:52:48 AM PST by stocksthatgoup (ZERO DARK THIRTY (coming soon to an embassy near you))
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To: No Socialist

I wrote to my congresscritter — Griffith, 9th VA — to take the lead on conservative issues in the House via email.

I did not even get the pro forma auto response that is normal for most congressional offices.

Instead, I was automatically signed up for his E-newsletter.

There has to be some serious reform in the House. Congress can no longer be seen as a career, but rather a temporary job that lasts 4-6 years and you’re gone without a pension.

Just my opinion on the subject.


17 posted on 12/19/2012 8:53:32 AM PST by txnativegop (Fed up with zealots)
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To: pabianice

Obama = Obstructionist


18 posted on 12/19/2012 8:59:05 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: frogjerk
No, my family and myself should not suffer to make a political point.

You're going to suffer anyway. Ubama is going to get his way.

You think Obamacare is going away? You think jobs are coming back?

President Cloward-Piven's only goal is to "overwhelm the system," and we have already passed the point of no return.

The sooner it happens, they sooner we can start on the reconstruction, after the guilty parties have been dealt with, of course.

19 posted on 12/19/2012 9:00:25 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the state." - Cornelius Tacitus, Roman Senator)
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To: pabianice

Out of 20Trillion in added debt, one side wanted to cut $1.7T and the other wanted to cut $1.2T

We are dead

Boner will go down in history as the most useless speaker ever. Gingrich should go and show him how its done.


20 posted on 12/19/2012 9:02:16 AM PST by Mr. K (Sign: "Gun Free Zone- Criminals: This Means You!" <-- democrap thinking)
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To: pabianice

In the spirit of bipartisanship, Obama has been willing to compromise, putting two plans on the table:

A My way.
B The highway.


21 posted on 12/19/2012 9:03:57 AM PST by rightwingcrazy
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To: Mr. K

If only he’d go down as the most useless.

He is WORSE than useless and has gone so far as helping the other side win.


22 posted on 12/19/2012 9:05:45 AM PST by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: pabianice

ARE YOU LISTENING, BOEHNER?! Obama is NO friend or fellow colleague.

Now hold the line on the debt ceiling debate!


23 posted on 12/19/2012 9:07:17 AM PST by Eagle of Liberty (Be the Enemy Within the Enemy Within...)
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To: frogjerk

WRONG.

The Republicans in the House need to pass THEIR BILL.

Extend the Bush Tax Cuts.

Then adjourn and let the Senate and the President deal with it.


24 posted on 12/19/2012 9:08:30 AM PST by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: pabianice

The hell with him then. Submit a bill, call it a BAFO (Best and Final Offer) and walk away. ut the ball in this chump’s court once and for all.

I so very much despise these people to the point of spitting. They have managed to wreck each and every Christmas since they got in office.

No debt limit hike, no more offers. Take it or leave it.


25 posted on 12/19/2012 9:09:08 AM PST by SueRae (It isn't over. In God We Trust.)
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To: sanjuanbob
Be very careful...fiscal cliff is exactly what Obama wants.

EXACTLY! What does Obama get with the fiscal cliff?

He gets defense cuts, ALL tax rates increasing, corporate rate increasing, capital gains rates increasing PLUS the Obamacare capital gains rate increase of 3.8%, and estate tax increases.

We know very little about what has been discussed in these "negotiations" other than current tax rates were being discussed. It seems all others were still on the table?
26 posted on 12/19/2012 9:11:53 AM PST by Eagle of Liberty (Be the Enemy Within the Enemy Within...)
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To: pabianice
Great.

The GOP is continuing the drive to extinction.

27 posted on 12/19/2012 9:12:44 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: pabianice
BOEHNER READING
28 posted on 12/19/2012 9:12:59 AM PST by FrankR (They will become our ultimate masters the day we surrender the 2nd Amendment.)
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To: pabianice

Boehner looks weak and stupid...the GOP needs a wartime consigliere.


29 posted on 12/19/2012 9:15:07 AM PST by RckyRaCoCo (I prefer liberty with danger to peace with slavery, IXNAY THE TSA!)
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To: pabianice
unbridled corruption in DC and a fraudulent president proves nothing he's done or does is of any consequence to him but the rest of us will certainly pay the price.
30 posted on 12/19/2012 9:17:18 AM PST by drypowder
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To: RckyRaCoCo

Yep, instead we get Fredo...


31 posted on 12/19/2012 9:20:24 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Hope and Change has become Attack and Obfuscate.)
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To: sickoflibs
That is how you play the game O usually wins at.

just hafta wait and see if this isnt merely posturing to save the speakership, with a monumental cave soon to come...

its not like these brilliant politicians cant understand the SOL strategies, more like they *dont* do them, for nefarious purposes...

32 posted on 12/19/2012 9:20:58 AM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: sanjuanbob

Be very careful...fiscal cliff is exactly what Obama wants.

I hope this blows up in the son of satan’s face.


33 posted on 12/19/2012 9:25:03 AM PST by Bitsy
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To: Gilbo_3; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; DoughtyOne; Impy; stephenjohnbanker; NFHale
RE :”That is how you play the game O usually wins at.
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just hafta wait and see if this isnt merely posturing to save the speakership, with a monumental cave soon to come...”

Exactly what I am expecting unfornuately.

The problem is, and it happened time and time again with this House, is they camp out on the MOST unpopular positions until even their OWN district voters turn on them calling up screaming at them, and then they give into O everything he demands. Then its boo-hoo-hoo, blame the MSM, the voters and victim whine...

O is on TV right now rejecting this <$1M proposal.

34 posted on 12/19/2012 9:30:32 AM PST by sickoflibs (Dems know how to win. Rs know how to whine.)
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To: pabianice

Maybe if Bonehead and Cantor throw in gun control and amnesty, along
with more Free Obama Phones, they can get the Grandest of All Bargains
they so desperately desire.


35 posted on 12/19/2012 9:31:44 AM PST by tennmountainman
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To: sanjuanbob

The fiscal cliff is the result of the Grand Bargain the GOP signed onto
two years ago with the debt ceiling deal.
If they don’t like the deal now
Why did they like it two years ago?


36 posted on 12/19/2012 9:34:53 AM PST by tennmountainman
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To: sanjuanbob

Be very careful...fiscal cliff is exactly what Obama wants.


THEN GIVE IT TO HIM!


37 posted on 12/19/2012 9:35:24 AM PST by AFret. ("Charlie don't surf ! ")
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To: Gilbo_3
RE :”its not like these brilliant politicians cant understand the SOL strategies, more like they *dont* do them, for nefarious purposes...”

In this case just like the SS/FICA battle Rs lost EXACTLY a year ago it is different group helping O.
calling a bill that keeps our taxes from going up a ‘tax increase’ is just plain dishonest

O on TV NOW is rejecting it claiming that “ Republicans are once again with plan B just playing politics and need to do the RIGHT thing for the American people
(meaning, give in to all his demands), But he says he is optimistic that the Rs will do the right thing (meaning, give in to all his demands),

what is missing is a R party leader on TV calling O out for raising OUR taxes to get his debt limit extension by rejecting this bill.

38 posted on 12/19/2012 9:40:13 AM PST by sickoflibs (Dems know how to win. Rs know how to whine.)
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To: marstegreg

I wondered that too.


39 posted on 12/19/2012 10:14:25 AM PST by 556x45
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To: pabianice

To my knowledge, Obama’s only compromise ever was the debt ceiling deal of 2011, whereby they kicked the can ahead to now. That deal didn’t do anything but raise the debt ceiling. The fiscal cliff it set up, supposedly, was to motivate a deal, to be shaped by the vote of the American people. The American people spoke and returned Obama with a reduced majority and Boehner also with a reduced majority. What are they going to do now? Boehner’s compromise proposal is minimalist (from our point of view). It is one step removed from kicking the can to the next election. But, going over the fiscal cliff is not going to be sufficient. In a couple months, they will have to either bring the budget into balance or raise the debt ceiling again. As amazing as this sounds, with the tax rates raised up to the pre-Bush level, with domestic discretionary and military spending cut by 10 percent across the board, it wouldn’t take much in the way of entitlement reform to actually balance the budget. Going over the fiscal cliff would be balanced in the sense of forcing almost everybody to contribute something. Subsequent entitlement reform would expand the fairness and balance of the sacrifice.


40 posted on 12/19/2012 11:03:21 AM PST by Redmen4ever
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To: Pikachu_Dad
Pikachu_Dad - That does not contradict with my statement and I agree that is a good action. I never ever said nor implied I want any capitulation.

E. Pluribus Unum said to basically get out of the way and let the DIMs run roughshot over the American people and they will get the blame - somehow that never happens.

41 posted on 12/19/2012 11:23:08 AM PST by frogjerk (Obama Claus is coming to town!)
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