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How the left was Won (excerpt)
20/12/12 | Phil.K

Posted on 12/19/2012 10:45:21 AM PST by Jakarta ex-pat

In many ways, The Right had it all to play for in the 80’s.

The majority of world leaders were conservative, led by Asia and the Middle East, but with a not too insignificant Europe and the Americas pulling closely alongside. Communism was in its death throes, the unions were not far behind, and the good guys seemed destined to ride off into the sunset.

So what went so terribly wrong? How could the proverbial ball not only be dropped, but the outcome would be also an inglorious own goal?

Although many factors will come to the fore during the century to come, there are two areas that will never be debatable; the roles of education and the “upper middle class.”


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Education
KEYWORDS: vanity

1 posted on 12/19/2012 10:45:23 AM PST by Jakarta ex-pat
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To: Jakarta ex-pat

1. New realities in the Global markets with new players.

2. Three wars in the Middle East.


2 posted on 12/19/2012 11:04:24 AM PST by Perdogg (Rep. Tom McClintock (R-CA4) for President 2016)
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To: Jakarta ex-pat

If we’re talking America, 1 name: Ross Perot.

He majorly split the vote and Klintoon won twice as a result. Set us on our way to losing that Reagan edge.

Not blaming Perot per se for running of for people picking him (I voted him the 1st time); but he was by far the most successful 3rd candidate this century and we conservatives are more open-minded (despite dogma of the Left) and went for him because Bush ticked us off. It wasn’t Libs that gave Perot such a boost.


3 posted on 12/19/2012 11:10:13 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: Jakarta ex-pat
Collapse of the Soviet Union. Suddenly leftism would not be seen as supporting a foreign enemy bent on external conquest. The right tied too much of its opposition to leftism on international policy rather than the inherent immorality of socialist theft.
4 posted on 12/19/2012 11:15:21 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Big Bird is a brood parasite: laid in our nest 43 years ago and we are still feeding him.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Perot was pro-abortion and willing to go door to door to confiscate guns, he was a curse to America.


5 posted on 12/19/2012 11:18:01 AM PST by ansel12 (Romney--guns not for recreation or self-defense"sole purpose of hunting down and killing people".)
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To: Jakarta ex-pat

A misunderstanding of human nature. Humans characteristically desire to enjoy the fruits of another’s labor, to have others serve them, to control the lives of others. Humans must be taught discipline and morality, it is contrary to our nature.

Historically, guidelines for behavior in the Christian west were established by Judeo-Christian precepts, which taught that a man should earn his own way, and not covet value created by another. In the post-Christian, secular west, we believe in many different and contradictory values systems; and each man decides for himself what is right, and what is wrong. But when a man sets himself up as judge he forgets that he is commonly a litigant in the same court. In the end, absent an absolute standard from a lawgiver greater than mortal man, these secular ‘moralities’ devolve into basic needs reduction, “What is good for me is good”. Under this scenario it is easy to justify why one’s failure is the fault of another, and why one ‘deserves’ what another has. After all, isn’t it ‘fair’ for me to have it as good as the other guy?

Liberty is born first in the hearts of men. Government is merely a vehicle through which that impulse may be implemented.

So the success of the left was really due to the destruction of the family and the moral fabric of western society. And it’s hard to see how we may return to our former state, barring a spiritual revival under the auspices of the risen Christ.


6 posted on 12/19/2012 11:52:59 AM PST by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: Jakarta ex-pat

Complacency, pure and simple. It was significantly boosted by the fall of the Soviet Union which left the US as the sole superpower. Prosperity and technology have insulated us from the consequences of our actions & decions. We have had it so good for so long in this country that we forgot what pain really feels like. People embrace Marxism and denigrate Western culture because they percieive there’s no risk to it. While 9/11 briefly woke us from the slumber, it wouldn’t last. Seven years later, we were willing to elect a Commie/Muslim sypathizer as POTUS. Compared to Obama, Clinton looks like Eisenhower.

So, in short, we are victims of our own success.


7 posted on 12/19/2012 11:59:58 AM PST by rbg81
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To: Jakarta ex-pat

It ain’t over yet my friend. It hasn’t reached a critical mass at this time. When that time comes it will be ‘Katy bar the door’ and cry HAVOC as far a I’m concerned.

The left has been pissing around trying to decide what to do. Don’t grant them the credit they don’t deserve. We’ll all know when the time is right to put the traitors and cowards out of their misery. Irregardless of what both major political parties in this country think the American people aren’t stupid. They can only be pushed so far before they get their hackles up.

I’d be willing to make a good bet that we are near the end of the the life span of both the Democrat and Republican parties. They might as well merge as far as I’m concerned as there is not difference between the two. The deal was struck a long time ago.

Keep your eys open, your powder dry, and your trigger finger ready.


8 posted on 12/19/2012 12:41:04 PM PST by .44 Special (Taimid Buarch)
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To: rbg81

It was the result of a takeover of our entire culture (media, education, entertainment industry, arts, etc.) by idealogues who never sleep,never give up, and never admit that they just may be wrong. It is a cultural virus that feeds on human desire for equality of results in human actions, which is a complete fantasy. Nevertheless, it sounds good, and in a brainwashed culture, that’s all that matters. Over 100 million lost their lives in the 20th Century to this fantasy, and it made no difference whatsoever. It will take a complete financial collapse to wake the public up, and that could prove to be very violent when the makers run out of money to feed the takers. And as history has shown us, societal upheavals never end up the way anyone predicts (French, Russian Revolutions).

Nero recognized this human condition in the 1st Century, so he burned Rome (to start things over and reset them to his liking), then fed the masses with handouts and blamed the fires on the Christians. Sound familiar?


9 posted on 12/19/2012 12:42:34 PM PST by NotTallTex
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To: Jakarta ex-pat

The first mistake was made by Ronald Reagan when he chose George Bush as his running mate. Had he chosen Paul Laxalt or Jack Kemp, there would have been no Bush dynasty, and the power of the RINOs might have been broken for good.


10 posted on 12/19/2012 1:19:19 PM PST by Fiji Hill (Io Triumphe!)
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To: the OlLine Rebel
If we’re talking America, 1 name: Ross Perot.

Had George Bush not broken his "no new taxes" pledge and tried to reverse the Reagan Revolution, Perot wouldn't have made much of an impact.

11 posted on 12/19/2012 1:23:54 PM PST by Fiji Hill (Io Triumphe!)
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To: Perdogg

During the Vietnam War, the universities turned out large numbers of liberal “educators.” These educated our kids and the next generation of “educators.” Wash, rinse, and repeat. Today, education, media, and popular culture are overwhelmingly liberal, and so are young voters. Big surprise.


12 posted on 12/19/2012 1:40:41 PM PST by Little Ray (Get back to work. Your urban masters need their EBTs refilled.)
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To: Fiji Hill
If you watch Reagan's 1980 Convention acceptance speech, you will see three future presidents Reagan, Bush, GW Bush.

If you look at the 11:03 mark, you see Bush and W.
13 posted on 12/20/2012 6:29:27 AM PST by Perdogg (Mark Levin - It's called the Bill of Rights not Bill of Needs)
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