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Click, print, shoot: Downloadable guns possible
Associated Press ^ | Dec 21, 2012 4:21 AM EST | Jason Dearen

Posted on 12/21/2012 4:31:08 AM PST by Olog-hai

Downloading a gun’s design plans to your computer, building it on a three-dimensional printer and firing it minutes later. No background checks, no questions asked. Sound far-fetched? It’s not. And that is disquieting for gun control advocates. …

At least one group, called Defense Distributed, is claiming to have created downloadable weapon parts that can be built using the increasingly popular new-generation of printer that utilizes plastics and other materials to create 3-D objects with moving parts. University of Texas law student Cody Wilson, the 24-year-old “Wiki Weapons” project leader, says the group last month test fired a semi-automatic AR-15 rifle—one of the weapon types used in the Connecticut elementary school massacre—which was built with some key parts created on a 3-D printer. The gun was fired six times before it broke. …

Right now, most people interested in 3-D printing rent time on one. There are a number of businesses and co-ops in major cities that allow access to the machines for a nominal fee. At San Francisco’s TechShop, which features a 3-D printer for its members, “assembling firearms is strictly prohibited and our staff is trained on that policy,” company spokeswoman Carrie Motamedi said. …

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat; Science
KEYWORDS: banglist

1 posted on 12/21/2012 4:31:11 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Give us Isher.


2 posted on 12/21/2012 4:33:11 AM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: Olog-hai

An AR15 was NOT used in the Conn. Shootings!


3 posted on 12/21/2012 4:34:36 AM PST by vanilla swirl (searching for something meaningful to say)
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To: vanilla swirl

It’s the Dissociated Press. They don’t let facts get in the way of a good propaganda piece . . .


4 posted on 12/21/2012 4:35:23 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: vanilla swirl
An AR15 was NOT used in the Conn. Shootings!

Shut your ignorant mouth! It was because the media said it was used or at least implied that it was. Who are YOU to say that it wasn't? You have no right to say anything about guns at all and we simply don't want to hear it. Understand?

5 posted on 12/21/2012 4:40:39 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Olog-hai

I am glad to read about this. My 3D printer is just sitting here doing nothing right now.

Doesn’t everyone have a 3D printer sitting around?


6 posted on 12/21/2012 4:45:30 AM PST by Venturer
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To: vanilla swirl

And since when is a 24 year old a ‘kid’?

At 24, my husband and I had been married for 4 years and had two children. My husband was a sergeant in the army with an associates degree.

A 24 year old is a grown man who’s perfectly capable of making intelligent decisions and understanding the second amendment.


7 posted on 12/21/2012 4:45:53 AM PST by Marie ("The last time Democrats gloated this hard after a health care victory, they lost 60 House seats.")
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To: Marie

Childhood keeps getting redefined older and older by the left; they love immaturity since it gives them an excuse to dictate.


8 posted on 12/21/2012 4:47:43 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

I just did some research on the 3D printer idea, and found out they are not as expensive as most people think, but if you even consider making anything other than very small plastic parts you do need a very big machine.
I may actually buy one for an at home seller of small scale reproduction parts for hobbyists.

With a machine like this I can make a near perfect small scale replica of any firearm, who wouldn’t want a foot long model of a Ma Deuce or a Dillon 134?


9 posted on 12/21/2012 4:53:46 AM PST by Eye of Unk (A Civil Cold War in America is here, its already been declared.)
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To: Olog-hai

Except for the socialist youth cadres, who are adults at twelve and do have a hand in designing your prison conditions.


10 posted on 12/21/2012 4:57:17 AM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: Olog-hai
assembling firearms is strictly prohibited and our staff is trained on that policy

I don't wanna do any assembly, just make parts!

11 posted on 12/21/2012 4:58:10 AM PST by expat1000
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To: Venturer

...and how much did it cost


12 posted on 12/21/2012 5:02:54 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon.....)
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To: Eye of Unk
Better than nothing!


13 posted on 12/21/2012 5:03:48 AM PST by expat1000
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To: Olog-hai

It also sounds a hell of a lot more inflammatory to say, “What’s chilling is that last month a group of kids used a 3-D printer to actually manufacture (key parts) of the AR-15 and fire six bullets,”

It conjurers images of stupid highschool boys playing around in their parents’ basement rather than serious men actually working toward a purpose.


14 posted on 12/21/2012 5:11:15 AM PST by Marie ("The last time Democrats gloated this hard after a health care victory, they lost 60 House seats.")
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To: Olog-hai
Yup
15 posted on 12/21/2012 5:12:20 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: expat1000

My FRiend I must have a stack of old Brownell catalogs a couple of feet high by now, my main source of parts and illustrations. Being a hobbyist gunsmith and machinist I have concepts of assault rifles and battle rifles that will be on my workbench in the future.

Its when you get into the small precision engineered plastics is where you can make money or being able to make molds for castings. And castings are very important, its a long bit of labor to machine something by hand, harder yet to duplicate that without a CAD CNC mill.
Definitely worth investing into because I have a feeling Obama will try to regulate these 3D machines severely.


16 posted on 12/21/2012 5:13:13 AM PST by Eye of Unk (A Civil Cold War in America is here, its already been declared.)
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To: expat1000
Well ... build the printer yourself
17 posted on 12/21/2012 5:14:21 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin; vanilla swirl

I’m not happy that it was the weapon of choice either, I own a few, however that was the case.

Main gun in Newtown also used in D.C. sniper shootings
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2012/12/17/bushmaster-assault-rifle-in-newtown-shootings/1772825/
In the school shooting, Connecticut Chief Medical Examiner H. Wayne Carver said all 26 victims were hit multiple times, suffering “devastating” wounds, all apparently traced to the rifle.

http://articles.latimes.com/2012/dec/16/news/la-nn-connecticut-school-shooting-assault-rifle-20121216
Lanza, 20, fired a Bushmaster .223 semiautomatic rifle to kill many of the 20 children and six adults at the school Friday, Connecticut State Police Lt. J. Paul Vance said. He used a Glock 10-millimeter handgun to shoot himself in the head. He also carried at Sig Sauer pistol. A shotgun, the type of which was not identified, was found in the trunk of Lanza’s car outside the school.

“The Bushmaster was used in the school, in its entirety, and [a] handgun was used to take his own life,” Vance said.


18 posted on 12/21/2012 5:15:45 AM PST by TSgt (...voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury.)
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To: knarf

I can buy one for $1500 and up, even on Amazon which is notorious for NOT selling gun parts.

I have a modest HO train collection, I could easily make my own small scale parts like air horns, signals even small cars, maybe now I can make a complete set of aircraft for my 1/350 scale Enterpise that actually look decent.


19 posted on 12/21/2012 5:19:29 AM PST by Eye of Unk (A Civil Cold War in America is here, its already been declared.)
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To: knarf

Well ... build the printer yourself

Amazing. Not really, I guess, but I am amazed nevertheless. Thanks!


20 posted on 12/21/2012 5:27:31 AM PST by expat1000
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To: Eye of Unk
Centuries ago, I had a contract with a Honeywell facility in Massachusetts to clean all the flourescent fixtures and replace the bulbs.

To this day, I remember when I was in the machine department, the smallest of lathes and such with projects in them, waiting for tomorrow (I worked at night when no one was there)

Now that I think of it, I was an honest young man in a world that trusted people back then.

I don't even know if Honeywell is still around, but I remember being in a macjine shop that seemed to be set up for miniaturization.

21 posted on 12/21/2012 5:30:00 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Olog-hai
http://store.makerbot.com/replicator2.html?ac=BI1-3DP-5 This one sells for $2,199
22 posted on 12/21/2012 5:31:44 AM PST by Eye of Unk (A Civil Cold War in America is here, its already been declared.)
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To: knarf

I built the equipment and did the setups for running mass manufacturing of pultruded fiberglass hollow planks which were then filled with cleaned shredded tire rubber, and these planks were built into panels for sound suppression for CALTRANS. They are now along the freeways in California, I built the original equipment.
But I spent 10 months working with a vertical mill and other machine shop equipment getting the design bugs out on the concept, I actually drew most of the plans on bar napkins, this was back in 1994.


23 posted on 12/21/2012 5:37:27 AM PST by Eye of Unk (A Civil Cold War in America is here, its already been declared.)
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To: vanilla swirl

“An AR15 was NOT used in the Conn. Shootings!”
//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

That’s what I thought! I haven’t watched that much coverage on TV because I don’t believe most of what they say anyway but I saw a report where they were saying the shooter (whoever it really was) used two or three handguns and the AR-15 was found in the car trunk. Then I see this idiot Pears Moreguff or whoever he is claiming that the AR-15 was the favorite weapon of mass killers and that is what was used at Sandy Point.


24 posted on 12/21/2012 5:44:58 AM PST by RipSawyer (I was born on Earth, what planet is this?)
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To: Eye of Unk
I was trained on a Bridgeport and a Tree as well as bench and engine lathes.

I thoroughly enjoyed machining, but I allowed other interests to take me away at too young of an age. Joined the Army and a boatload of etcetera's

Old too soon get we .. shmaht too late.

25 posted on 12/21/2012 5:46:06 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Olog-hai

“...Childhood keeps getting redefined older and older by the left; they love immaturity since it gives them an excuse to dictate.”

Precisely! Their stats on “children” killed with guns invariably contain 18-20 year old gang bangers who are the victims of their own criminal enterprises.


26 posted on 12/21/2012 5:47:54 AM PST by petro45acp ( Merry Christmas !! Adeste Fidele!)
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To: Olog-hai

Back in the day, a Chevy V8 push rod was a pretty good barrel for a .22 long rifle round.

So I heard.


27 posted on 12/21/2012 5:56:11 AM PST by CPOSharky (zero slogan: Expect less, pay more. (apologies to Target))
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To: Olog-hai; KevinDavis

Replicator control is already being discussed??


28 posted on 12/21/2012 6:30:34 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Marie

Liberals call 24 year olds kids while saying 11 year olds are old enough for sex

libs never make sense


29 posted on 12/21/2012 6:32:50 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Olog-hai
This article is a libtard peeing their panties fact-free, that's all. All that can be printed on the 3D printer is the receiver and some of the trigger group parts. You still have to have a forged/machined upper, barrel, bolt, cam, and carrier. Yeah, you could improvise something smoothbore, but it wouldn't be very accurate.

But of course, libtards have never touched an AR-15, much less know how one works. I and many other FReepers, on the other hand, have built our own up from parts, and have intimate knowledge of how they work.

Gun control can't touch us.

30 posted on 12/21/2012 6:49:10 AM PST by backwoods-engineer ("Remember: Evil exists because good men don't kill the gov officials committing it." -- K. Hoffmann)
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To: Olog-hai

31 posted on 12/21/2012 6:53:26 AM PST by Fido969
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To: Olog-hai

Read an article a group printed an ar-15 and failed after 6 shots.
Print extra copies.


32 posted on 12/21/2012 6:54:40 AM PST by Morris70
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To: vanilla swirl

What rifle WAS used, then?


33 posted on 12/21/2012 7:23:08 AM PST by expat2
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To: Morris70

As expected, the buffer tube mount broke loose from the receiver as a result of the off-axis stress from the recoil. They are already working on beefing that part of the receiver up.


34 posted on 12/21/2012 7:23:18 AM PST by backwoods-engineer ("Remember: Evil exists because good men don't kill the gov officials committing it." -- K. Hoffmann)
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To: Eye of Unk

I’m waiting for the 2X as it will also allow ABS :) Supposed to be out soon and while the 2 is around $2400 I’m expecting the 2X to run just a bit more with the added ability. Can’t wait.


35 posted on 12/21/2012 7:26:29 AM PST by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Well actually I was pointing out in my own way that worry about this is a foolish thing. No one has one of these things sitting around doing nothing.


36 posted on 12/21/2012 8:45:05 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Venturer
No one has one of these things sitting around doing nothing.

Some weird people have been known to put their butts on copiers, so I wonder how THAT would turn out.....LOL!

37 posted on 12/21/2012 1:44:56 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon.....)
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