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Itís the Little Things That Matter (Shortened Title)
SHTF Plan ^ | 12/29/12 | Norse Prepper

Posted on 01/01/2013 3:54:53 AM PST by Kartographer

It’s the Little Things That Matter: 100 Survival Items To Help Keep A Sense of Normality and Sanity After the Collapse

Bullets…check. Beans…check. Band Aids…check. The list goes on and on sometimes doesn’t it? As preppers, we all are stockpiling the items and supplies that we plan on needing if and when it hits the fans. We all need to make sure we can eat, drink, protect ourselves from the elements and defend what needs to be defended. However, today I found myself thinking of things that weren’t on my “Need in order to survive” list. Little things that we all take for granted today, but someday, we may look back and think how simple it would have been to pick up a couple of those items when they are no longer on a store shelf near you.

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I find that such list generate a lot of discussion as well as ideas.

So here you go! For your consideration, comment and critique.

1 posted on 01/01/2013 3:54:57 AM PST by Kartographer
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Preppers’ PING!!


2 posted on 01/01/2013 3:56:22 AM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer; ChocChipCookie

The following is a link to a article (10 Morale Boosters for Any Worst Case Scenario) I wrote for our own ChocChipCookie (Lisa Bedford) blog ‘The Survival Mom’, which relates to this subject.

http://thesurvivalmom.com/2011/11/20/8-morale-boosters-for-any-worst-case-scenario/


3 posted on 01/01/2013 3:59:23 AM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer
Aspirin. Dear Lord, I know I have aspirin stored somewhere around here.

What exactly happened last night? Where are my pants? Why is there a law-enforcement badge on the coffee table?

I think I had a happy new year. We'll see after the warrants are issued.

/johnny

4 posted on 01/01/2013 4:00:17 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Chew some willow bark! Such whining is beneath the dignity of a Mountain Man such as yourself! You’ll embarrass yourself at rendezvous! ;-)

Happy New Year Johnny!


5 posted on 01/01/2013 4:07:29 AM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer
It was the disorienting thing of waking up at some ungodly Sergeants only hour this AM. That and having both eyes in one socket. ;)

I found aspirin. Still nothing on the pants, but they'll show up... eventually.

Happy New Year, Kart. May God bless you and yours in the upcoming year.

/johnny

6 posted on 01/01/2013 4:13:58 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Kartographer

I’ve been concerned about nightly “entertainment”.

If we don’t have power, we’ll have to get by without a video, online game, or the internet.

I’ve stocked crossword puzzle books (and pencils), playing cards (both regular and pinocle), jigsaw puzzles, dice. Have enough of each to use for barter, as well.


7 posted on 01/01/2013 4:14:07 AM PST by FrogMom (Chicken Little is coming, and he's right!)
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To: FrogMom
I’ve been concerned about nightly “entertainment”.

From my experience, doing the late 1800s lifestyle thing, after an early start, and a long day, entertainment consists of checking my eyelids for thin spots whilst laying on a cot.

/johnny

8 posted on 01/01/2013 4:20:29 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: FrogMom

Stock up on Kosher salt as well...


9 posted on 01/01/2013 4:32:06 AM PST by richardtavor
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To: FrogMom

There are a number of ‘Off Grrid’ Charging systems for small electronic devices like tablets and smart phones. You might look into those.


10 posted on 01/01/2013 4:33:03 AM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

We have ‘em, thanks!


11 posted on 01/01/2013 4:43:37 AM PST by FrogMom (Chicken Little is coming, and he's right!)
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To: richardtavor

Already done, thanks!


12 posted on 01/01/2013 4:44:21 AM PST by FrogMom (Chicken Little is coming, and he's right!)
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To: Kartographer

I have a simple but most effective exercise device..a TRX trainer. Invented by a Navy Seal using parachute straps, it is simple, effective and exercises every major (and minor) muscle group. Totally portable. We’ll need to stay in shape. :-). You can hang the thing on a tree branch or other means.

http://www.trxtraining.com/shop/gear?utm_source=mac&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Trx_Terms


13 posted on 01/01/2013 4:51:13 AM PST by SueRae (It isn't over. In God We Trust.)
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To: FrogMom

I know why I am up at this hour (sore back from three weeks of unpacking boxes and moving furniture) but what is your excuse?


14 posted on 01/01/2013 4:59:04 AM PST by KC Burke (Plain Conservative opinions and common sense correction for thirteen years. RSC)
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To: Kartographer

Don’t forget soap/shampoo/detergent . . .


15 posted on 01/01/2013 5:06:25 AM PST by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Kartographer

If you’re going to get a bb rifle, get a bb-pellet rifle with a serious pump. A good multi-stroke pump rifle can get almost to .22LR velocity. This means it is good enough for game birds and squirrels. Set the kids to hunting small game.

You can significantly cut down on your TP use by using the Asiatic method of cleaning yourself first. That is, by passively washing first with an enema bag, which will remove most of the filth and leave you cleaner. Then use just a few sheets of TP to dry off and get any residual.

A microscope is essential, with a minimum of a 10x eyepiece and 100x objective lens for a total power of 1000x. You will also need India ink to stain the slide before you add a tiny droplet of water to see if it is contaminated with living bacteria. If it has anything living in it, do not eat or drink it without cooking.

High ground, telescopes and a few hand mirrors gives you long distance area surveillance.


16 posted on 01/01/2013 5:13:39 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: Kartographer

Not in the realm of entertainment, but comfort for you and sanity for your cook.

Boric acid for safe bug control. Mix with sugar to make a syrup for ants and other crawly critters. Some dollar store have it relatively cheap.

Diatomaceous earth, food grade used for deworming dogs and cats, as well as for use in chicken houses. Be rid of bed bugs, fleas, ants, roaches, parasites. Sprinkle around your foundation for whole house control. Used widely to keep bugs from invading stored grain and beans.

Neither of these item should ever go bad, but you will be seen as an angel if you have a supply of these after the SHTF.


17 posted on 01/01/2013 5:39:56 AM PST by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: Kartographer

http://www.luminaidlab.com/

Just saw this on tv, pretty interesting.


18 posted on 01/01/2013 5:53:46 AM PST by Ladysmith (Every time another lib loses its job, an angel gets its wings.)
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To: listenhillary
Diatomaceous earth

Check!

19 posted on 01/01/2013 6:17:44 AM PST by grobdriver
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

“A microscope is essential,....”

Never thought about that - but it makes sense. Got an old one from college - considered tossing it but may come in handy down-the-road.


20 posted on 01/01/2013 6:44:49 AM PST by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: KC Burke

Actually had woken up an hour before, couldn’t go back to sleep, so....


21 posted on 01/01/2013 7:03:19 AM PST by FrogMom (Chicken Little is coming, and he's right!)
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To: Kartographer

There are two things that need to be learned and practiced to take with you, that may be extremely useful.

The first is American Sign Language. Just knowing how to say and understand some critical words could prove invaluable if either someone loses their hearing or ability to speak, or if speaking could “get you into trouble”.

The other thing is similar but covert. It is based on psychology, that people tend to ignore what is happening below their belt line (which is why the US Army teaches soldiers that, even briefly, they should never hold a hand grenade lower than their belt, or they might forget they are holding it.)

It is a form of signalling that uses the feet. Importantly, it starts by doing something up high that tells those in the know to look down, such as tugging on your left ear lobe. Then you inconspicuously move a foot, or both feet, to send a silent message.

Most of these will be “duress” signals, since you are in a position in which you can’t or shouldn’t speak, or maybe even use ASL.

There might be great value in these, similar to using “duress” passwords to let your friends know you are being coerced.


22 posted on 01/01/2013 7:29:16 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: Kartographer
we may look back and think how simple it would have been to pick up a couple of those items when they are no longer on a store shelf near you.

I keep that thought in mind quite a bit these days, buying a little bit more than I used to for filling the pantry and replacing things (car, appliances, etc.) that I have the money to replace while I still can, plus a few new things like a food dryer and more gardening and canning books and tools.

Hopefully, this job will last another year or four, but who knows? It's one day at a time. So, I'm preparing like for a long, cold winter and a very late spring that is likely to be our economy and hope things get better while I prepare for the worst.

I keep talking myself out of a small generator or maybe a couple of the ultra quiet Honda or Yamaha generators. Set up for dual fuel (gas and propane), one could be very handy, even a lifesaver, or it could be something else I never use and regret spending so much on.

23 posted on 01/01/2013 7:34:25 AM PST by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
If you’re going to get a bb rifle, get a bb-pellet rifle with a serious pump. A good multi-stroke pump rifle can get almost to .22LR velocity.

I took a trip back to my youth with this, but couldn't find replacement parts for my old Crossman 1400. So, I bought a Crossman/Benjamin 392 .22 cal., instead of the BB/.177 cal Model 397.

This gun has been around forever (Benjamin 392, 397 and Sheridan C9), so parts and accessories are easy to find. I am shopping for an intermount and scope and better iron sights for it. Lots of choices!

It's fairly quiet to shoot and it's kinda cool having a shooting gallery in the house to practice, especially on a rainy day like today.

24 posted on 01/01/2013 7:51:14 AM PST by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Morse Code and Semaphore will also come in handy for long distances or for rescue signaling.


25 posted on 01/01/2013 8:52:57 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy; Bride Of Old Sarge
A microscope is essential, with a minimum of a 10x eyepiece and 100x objective lens for a total power of 1000x. You will also need India ink to stain the slide before you add a tiny droplet of water to see if it is contaminated with living bacteria. If it has anything living in it, do not eat or drink it without cooking.

NICELY thought out! Pinging this.

26 posted on 01/01/2013 10:16:57 AM PST by Old Sarge (We are officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet...)
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To: Kartographer; JRandomFreeper; All

I have most of these articles on the list. There won’t be children here so I don’t have those items for child play. I have comments about some of the items:

I see “ Small cooler that can be plugged in to solar power.” I don’t know about this and wonder if any of you have this? I will surely find one if they are made, and get one as I have no refrigeration for a long time emergency. I have a 20 watt solar panel with charger for all size batteries and it also has a female cigarette lighter plug to charge devices such as I-pads, phones and my Kindle – I’m putting books on my Kindle so I will have plenty to read if I have no power. The cooler may need more than 20 watts to work. If you have such a cooler, tell me where to find it. If I get no replies on this thread, I’ll search for it on the web.

Toilet paper: I got a $20 gift certificate for Christmas and I see $20 worth of more toilet paper in the near future.

Mountain House (or other) dehydrated ice cream: Say, what? Never heard of this – would expect some kind of freezing would be necessary and I won’t have that but I’ll check it out.

Gloves: Each of my bug out backpacks came with a pair of leather work gloves. Also got burn resistant gloves that come up to the elbow to wear when dealing with an open fire and skillets/pots. Also got a pair of gloves that looks like insulated rubber to carry hot meat like a turkey or chicken.

Fishing equipment: I’ve mentioned this before. Got Shakespeare women’s rod and reel with tackle box of lures. Rod and reel is pink so men won’t use it.

Long underwear: Years ago I did this – got silk long underwear and long sleeve top. I read silk is the best insulation for long underwear.

Candles: I didn’t make them – have enough jar candles for light at night for a year.

Spices: Very important, especially if you have gobs of dried beans. I have numerous spices so the beans won’t taste the same meal after meal. Also have Italian spices for meat sauce or other sauce with spaghetti. I got those spices in long term packing from Walton ‘cause I’ve got lots of spaghetti and wanted the spices to stay “fresh”.

Coffee: I don’t care what he says, coffee is a necessity. Have large cans of it.

Sewing kit: My mother sewed all my clothes and I learned from her, but she sent me to a summer sewing class given by Singer when I was in high school. I have two sewing boxes with every kind of thread, including upholstery thread and upholstery curved needles and the regular threads are of all colors and have plenty of various needles. I can also crochet due to my mother teaching me that as she crocheted all the time. I have a crocheted bed spread she made at night waiting for me to come home from wherever I was. I must have gone a lot of places to have a whole bedspread.

Fresh sheets and blankets: I have a zillion sheets collected through the years and almost threw them away a few months ago. Then, I thought about bandages and arm slings and holding up a wounded leg, and chest/body wraps, and I’m keeping plenty of those sheets. I’ll stick them in the back of a walk in closet and have plenty of bandages, etc., I can cut from those sheets. Always think of an emergency use for items before you throw something away.

Short wave radio receiver with rechargeable batteries: When Hussein’s government had an emergency drill, telling us our TV and radios would be shut off by him as a practice run “in case we have a country wide emergency”, I thought he just took my TV and radios away from me. I was furious. So, I bought a short wave radio receiver so I can get news from ham radio operators. Screw Hussein.

Kid pool: I have two plastic kiddie pools to put on an outside deck to capture rainwater.

Alcohol, the drinking kind: I don’t have this. I can’t decide what to get and don’t want to spend a fortune.

Hard Candy: I don’t have it but it’s not a problem to get it.

Magazines: I have numerous copies of American Rifleman from the NRA that I haven’t read. I looked through a recent one several days ago and found the new red laser made for my Ruger and it wasn’t expensive. Now, I have that. Wouldn’t have known about it if I hadn’t had that magazine. Other reading material is on my Kindle.

Rope: At one time, I had no rope, so I bought Paracord and that is very strong rope. Take the strands apart if you need to use it that way.

Solar shower: I use camp showers and the latest ones I got have a temperature gauge on them – put one in the sun, you can see the temp. of the water and when it’s where you want it, take a hot shower. I have camp showers to have running water at the kitchen sink, bathroom sinks, and the shower. The other bathroom has a tub, not a shower, so that is where I will put the food grade Waterbob that holds 100 gallons of good water from the tub faucet.

I know I will lose power the next time a hurricane comes through here and Ike was the last one. My preps are to make my life better when power goes away for any reason. I prep because it would be stupid not to as I know I will need these preps.

President Hussein has mega preps to keep him and his family alive. I am “more” important than he is and so are you. We paid for his preps and we pay for our own. Anyone who knocks preppers can go to the White House instead and complain they used his/her money to prep and no one needs to prepare as nothing is going to happen and he/she wants the money back.


27 posted on 01/01/2013 11:21:47 AM PST by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

“Where are my pants?”

You NEVER know where your pants are so New Year’s Eve is no different than any day concerning the pants. :o)


28 posted on 01/01/2013 11:24:35 AM PST by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: Kartographer; JRandomFreeper; Marcella; All
Happy New Year everyone. We celebrate New Years with our traditional food, and then do something based on what we have read about other country's traditional foods. We had a great time and lots of champagne punch which unexpectedly really packed a punch.

First on my list of non necessities, is cocoa powder. Maybe it is really a necessity. One of the few items that Granddaughter likes for breakfast. Plus, there are so many ways to use cocoa powder to make treats, cakes and chocolate candy.

My Christmas present for daughters was a book on how to make your own pop tarts, fried pies, etc at home using basic staples. That's my approach to many food treats-back to basics. I do a decent job baking and cooking, and avoiding the additives that are in so much of our food today.

I had a great stir fry over the holidays using some of the produce from my winter garden. Fresh carrots, green onions, from the outdoors, and green peppers grown in front of the patio doors combined with the rest. Pesticide free. No worry about E coli germs either. LOL.

Now that winter is here, I will be going through the freezer, and canning up veggies, fruits, and meats for my own “fast food” meals in less than 30 minutes, heating up the house when it is appreciated, as well as adding variety. While I usually use home canned within a year, it actually has a 3 year shelf life, so it can be part of the short term emergency stash as well.

I have been busy ordering powdered milk this week, whenever I find it priced so that it is cheaper than fresh, to use for cooking and long term storage. I ordered the accessory to vacuum pack mason jars, along with some O2 absorbers, Mylar bags, and a decent heat sealer.

I did learn something new in my reading of some food storage back to basics books. Eggs can be kept for a year, if you coat them in Mineral oil, put back in the container, and keep them in a cool area. So I am going to take a dozen eggs, coat them in Mineral Oil, and put them in the refrigerator, and eat 1 every month, just to see what happens, unless someone else has already tried it and can tell me how it turned out? Best Wishes to all. Have a great day!

29 posted on 01/01/2013 11:24:53 AM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Home made loco moco ought to do the trick. Just the right amount of gravy, fried eggs, and ground beef to deal with the residual alcohol.


30 posted on 01/01/2013 11:26:56 AM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: FrogMom

“If we don’t have power, we’ll have to get by without a video, online game, or the internet.”

I have a battery powered portable TV (uses 8 AA batteries). If a Houston TV station has backup power, I can get it.


31 posted on 01/01/2013 11:28:20 AM PST by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: Marcella
Thermoelectric coolers. Use 12 VDC to make one side of a semiconductor hot, and the other side cold. Careful buying one of those, they vary greatly in quality and how cold they will get.

But yes, they work.

/johnny

32 posted on 01/01/2013 12:08:32 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Marcella
Pants were on the roof.

The neighbor's roof....

He and his girlfriend are moving very slowly today, and talks like there was a heck of a party somewhere near here. ;)

/johnny

33 posted on 01/01/2013 12:10:50 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Lurker
Menudo. It's always the answer. One way or the other, issues get settled.

/johnny

34 posted on 01/01/2013 12:12:23 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: greeneyes
The eggs will probably keep if you seal the pores. You can also use alum water and submerge the eggs.

Personally, I use dried eggs for cooking if I'm living on stored food.

Long term stored shell eggs are not so good for frying (the older the egg, the weaker the yolk), but make great pastries. I generally keep eggs on the counter this time of year.

Easier to keep chickens. ;)

/johnny

35 posted on 01/01/2013 12:17:39 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: GBA

Hubby occasionally needed one on the job, so he had bought one many years ago, and about 8 years ago decided to upgrade to a Honda.

Shortly after, my Dad had a stroke and came to live with us. We have frequent short-term and occasional longer power outages in our state. This truly was a life saver. During an extended power outage at the hottest time of the year, we were able to run his oxygen machine, 2 room air conditioners, his TV and the refrigerators and freezer.

We had the necessities covered as well as comfort. The hospital was over-run by people who needed Oxygen, because they didn’t have enough back-up tanks at home, and no way to power the machine either.

The original purchase decision was a struggle because the need was so infrequent that he could have justed rented one on the rare occasion it was needed for the job. Having one during an emergency more than made up for it though.


36 posted on 01/01/2013 12:21:33 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

We have had parties like that. Bras are usually pretty easy to return to the rightful owner. Just sayin’.


37 posted on 01/01/2013 12:22:32 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Marcella
Rod and reel is pink so men won’t use it.

I'm somewhat colorblind, and not self consious at all, so yep. I'd use the rod and reel. Heck, I've shot a pink rifle. ;)

/johnny

38 posted on 01/01/2013 12:26:22 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Lurker
Bras are usually pretty easy to return to the rightful owner

I wasn't weaing one.

I don't think...... ;)

/johnny

39 posted on 01/01/2013 12:29:23 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Thanks for the info. I would love to keep chickens. I don't think I will be able to keep chickens in our subdivision at present. When SHTF, I expect a lot of people will start this. However, on days like today, I am glad I don't have to feed chickens or do anything to go outside. LOL.

We have lots of squirrels and rabbits running around in the yard. Still every now and then I like a good old fashioned breakfast of eggs and all the other greasy stuff like bacon, ham, sausage, hash browns, biscuits and gravy.

I recall that my Grandparents kept eggs in one of the cooler rooms of the house year round-they seemed to last quite a long time without refrigeration. Hubby thinks that they should be refrigerated, so I humor him.

I still have a bunch of dried egg whites I am trying to use up in cooking. We got them to add protein to Dad's diet on doctor's orders.

I would like to get some dried whole eggs that would taste good as scrambled eggs. Some have suggested Ova Easy Eggs. Do you have a recommendation or observation about that?

40 posted on 01/01/2013 12:48:53 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes
Nope. Someone will, though. I use dried whole eggs mainly for baking.

Besides I'm the guy that bootlegged a pig here in this little town until it weighed 100 lbs. Chickens, minus a rooster aren't that big of a deal.

Stupid law=ignore.

/johnny

41 posted on 01/01/2013 12:55:01 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Marcella

Coffee is a necessity. I load up at every sale. I also like the coffee with chicory. Since I have plenty of Chicory growing, I plan to dry the roots and make the coffee last longer that way too.

Now that I have successfully grown a lemon tree indoors and harvested the wonderful fruit, I plan to experiment with a coffee plant. We are planning to have a greenhouse/solar room attached to the house to expand my indoor gardening area and gardening supply storage area.

Hubby can build it once I have the design. I am still reading and sketching. If SHTF too soon, it is not a necessity, as we can continue what we are doing indoors. Our winter wheat is doing well outdoors, and we have plenty from last year’s crop to keep going till the new harvest.

Funny thing about pink. I bought a pink thermos for the same reason. Every time I had a thermos, it disappeared and was eventually inadvertantly left on the job. I knew Hubby would not take a pink thermos to work.

I was wondering what sort of emergency would require a blackout of all other stations? An interruption to switch to the Emergency Broadcast System which has been tested as long as I can remember is one thing, but you’re right, If can block it, they don’t have to turn it back on.

We are finding bulk spices at the Asian Markets when we go to St. Louis so much cheaper than our local stores, we have quite a lot of those, except for the ones I grow myself.
Lots of spices are easy to grow and dry yourself, and for some I prefer to have fresh, so I grow them in little pots year round.


42 posted on 01/01/2013 1:08:22 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes
Thanks for that real life testimonial! Definitely a lifesaver and you may have sold a generator or two for Camping World.

I keep thinking I'll regret not having one, but I've had that thought for about five years running. There's always a more urgent need for the money. Plus, the weather has been so mild, hot and dry and not given any reminders or reasons to get one.

On the other hand, that next could hit next week. I remember a freak storm in Phoenix that hit my area and killed power for a week. It happens. And, obama happened twice.

I figure inflation's coming and I may not be able to buy one later with my deflated dollars. On sale right now, I could get two 2000 watt Hondas or buy a 1 oz. gold Buffalo and a few ounces of silver or do nothing. Hard to know which would be better at this point.

43 posted on 01/01/2013 1:33:34 PM PST by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

LOL. I admire your determination. It’s not a law. It’s an agreement. When we bought the lots we agreed not to have noxious animals. I usually honor my agreements.

If Hubby decides he wants to take care of chickens in the winter time, I’ll be happy to take care of them in the spring, summer, and autumn as well as make the case that they are not noxious animals cause we don’t have a rooster. LOL. I’ll call them pets.

I don’t see how they would be any more noxious than a bunch of hunting dogs in a pen, do you?


44 posted on 01/01/2013 2:03:01 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: GBA

You are welcome. So many decisions, so little time. I am glad that we already have the generator. However, now I am wondering if there is a converter to run it on propane.

Gasoline might be hard to come by. Whereas we can get a large tank of propane to run the generator on. So that’s going on my list to research.


45 posted on 01/01/2013 2:11:17 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes
Oh, it's a law here. Code enforcement said it was. I said "What? My dog has to be cute? It's an ugly dog."

Code Enforcement: "It's a pig"

Neighbor: "John, that's one ugly dog."

So I whistled for my 'dog', and fed it some dog food when it came to the whistle.

Sam grumped, and grumped.

But I kept the 'dog' until it was time for a BBQ.

I let paper wasps build nests on the front porch and just point at them when annoying people visit.

'Doesn't play well with others' was on my first report card. ;)

/johnny

46 posted on 01/01/2013 2:13:04 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: greeneyes
Kits are available. I've been looking at a couple of places:
http://www.generatorsales.com/
http://www.propane-generators.com/honda-generators.htm
but haven't purchased from them yet.

(Fwiw, I am not affiliated in any way with either company.)

47 posted on 01/01/2013 2:20:01 PM PST by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: greeneyes
"I was wondering what sort of emergency would require a blackout of all other stations?"

The reason given by Hussein, was, in case of an emergency involving the whole country, they could take over TVs and radios and broadcast from Washington telling us what to do.

Because they can turn them off and on, they can keep us from getting any news except what they want us to know, never turning them back to the original stations. We do not own our TVs and radios anymore, Hussein does.

If he does it, I've got the short wave radio to listen to news around the world thanks to the ham operators.

The man who calls himself our president isn't my president. He is a TV/radio thief.

48 posted on 01/01/2013 2:32:09 PM PST by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: richardtavor

I’m convinced that some simple things would be for all intents priceless.

You mention salt.

Soap. (hand soap, laundry soap, conditioners)
Pepper. Way back when, people risked their lives on ocean voyages and faced wars for the simple peppercorn.

Odds ‘n ends... sewing needles, reading glasses, I have a good supply of generic Claritin even though I have no allergies. Tincture of Iodine, simple Neosporin.


49 posted on 01/01/2013 3:13:59 PM PST by djf (Conservative values help the poor. Liberal values help them STAY poor!!!)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I see you didn’t outgrow your first report card. LOL.


50 posted on 01/01/2013 3:16:44 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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